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  Watchtower Propaganda

  by JosephAlward in

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  many have argued that articles in awake!

  in recent years show that watchtower was letting itself be told what do by the purple beast, namely, promote the united nations in its writings.

  i can understand how many might quickly find support for this claim, for there are, indeed, many articles in awake!

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  siegswife

  Joseph, Giles said that the WTS registered as an NGO for the sole purpose of gaining access to the UN library. The librarian said "Grounds passes are obtained by submitting requests on "raised letterhead" from the institution you represent, and these requests must present evidence that there is a legitimate "research need" that will be met by library access; generally "one, or two, or three" persons only from that institution may use the grounds pass. Grounds passes are not issued when one becomes affiliated with the DPI because the DPI does not issue grounds passes; the security department of the library issues those. NGOs affiliated with the DPI would still have to submit a request for a grounds pass on raised letterhead, but the fact of the affiliation would stand as evidence of a legitimate research need, so no further evidence would be necessary."

  That says to me, that the WTS still had to submit a request for library access even AFTER becoming an NGO, they just didn't have to do a little extra legwork by supplying evidence of the need for that access. Being an NGO didn't really contribute at all to the library pass.

  Another thing to remember that although they didn't have to provide proof of need for the library pass, as an NGO they DID have to submit examples of articles promoting UN propaganda. I would think for the sake of their beliefs they would rather supply the proof needed to get library access rather than the meeting the criteria of being an NGO associated with the DPI.
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  When Revelation Turns Obsolete

  by metatron in

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  one of the reasons i thought armageddon was close at hand was.

  the impending obsolescence of the bible as a source of revelation.. the bible was written within the context of a large number of.

  conditions that eventually would be changed by technology, i reasoned,.

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  siegswife

  Thanks aChristian. I've been somewhat at odds with the appearance of sexism in Pauls words. I was considering that maybe he was having a hard time letting go of some of his former vocation. You've given me a view that I never considered before.
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  God created monkeys in his image.

  by ballistic in

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  did you know that our dna is 96% identical to that of our nearest primates?.

  does this mean god created monkeys 96% in his image?.

  but seriously, this has a lot to say about evolution.... why would god create us based on the genes of monkeys, especially if, as the witnesses declare, we were designed to live forever and monkeys were not?.

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  siegswife

  I hope the little chatter monkey in my life is created in God's image.
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  My Profound and Wise 1000th post...

  by Billygoat in

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  a few minutes before the services started, the townspeople were sitting in their pews talking.

  suddenly, satan appeared at the front of the room.

  everyone started screaming and running for the entrance, trampling each other in a frantic effort to get away from evil incarnate.. soon everyone had exited the church except for one elderly gentleman who sat calmly in his pew without moving, seeming oblivious to the fact that god's ultimate enemy was in his presence.. satan walked up to the old man and said, "don't you know who i am?".

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  siegswife

  Yeeeehaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!
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  dumbing down made us witnesses

  by sleepy in

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  i've almost forgotten why i thought jw's were the truth.. there i was thinking about it as i drove in my car yesterday trying to remember why.but i couldn't.. prehaps its because there was not one reason but a hole host of things that seamed to fit at the time.. i cannot remember a point when i started to doubt, but i did read a lot of scientific books which helped tune my brain a little bit.. i also noted that the maganzines (w&a) were very small a had very little content i found this very strange as i noted that science writers went to great pains to prove a point where as the societiy seemed happy with a few lines and a quick conclusion.but the society expected people lives to depend on its information.. but i wanted to know why i believed to avoid making the same mistake twice.. so after consideration i've come to the conclusion i was under the influence of misinformation by the society and had asumed these people knew what they were talking about and were unbaised and always checked their facts.. now i know better and will make a goal to always research myself to a higer than "normal " level before i except unusual things as true.. so i belive i was a witness due to misinformation , but this problem effect us all in many ways, how do we know we are being well informed when we read something?.

  well there is a majour problem in the fact that a lot of people find reading boring , we enjoy being entertianed and to learn can be hard.

  i have had to force myself to read things i didn't enjoy in order to understand something important.i am glad after that i have done it ,but i didnt enjoy it.. yes people read little and prefear it when everthing is given to them on a plate.. i belive that lack of education and a lack of a critical mind coupled with the dumbing down of society in general will lead people into religious traps and pseudoscientific errors.. we must encourage education and the desire to learn in our children.. the dumbing down i see in society worries me.

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  I remember what happened to me. I was at the lowest point in my life, and I was praying to God. I've believed in God despite my childhood. Anyway, one night I was praying about my pitiful state and I layed down to go to sleep, suddenly, I saw a (what can only be described as) a torch of fire in my minds eye. I got scared because of the judgment that I felt I was under. I remember turning on the light, picking up my Jerusalem Bible, and feeling for the first time ever, that it was written just for me. The next day, I called the woman (who had been hounding me about Bible Study for about 2 years) to begin an earnest study. A few years later I was gone from JW's.

  Can I explain or justify my experience with the JW's? I think that God, in His Wisdom, knew that I had to be handed over to Satan to learn discipline and faith. Understanding the Word isn't dependent on how much Bible knowledge you have, but how much faith. The Word isn't the Bible...it's God's Self identification.
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  Watchtower Propaganda

  by JosephAlward in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many have argued that articles in awake!

  in recent years show that watchtower was letting itself be told what do by the purple beast, namely, promote the united nations in its writings.

  i can understand how many might quickly find support for this claim, for there are, indeed, many articles in awake!

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  siegswife

  Mr. Skeptic, I totally agree with you in that the Watchtower did not overtly adhere to the standards set out in their agreement. The problem I see is that they HAD TO mention the agenda of the UN and they DID. The UN influenced their 'food' in that they were not FREE to provide the 'food' that only their God could provide. They HAD TO give PR to the UN and they DID.
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  Revealed: Prisca the pyromaniac!

  by ozziepost in

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  it came as a surprise to those gathering for the sydney apostofest bbq today to find that prisca is a pyromaniac.. this previously well-concealed aspect of prisca's personality was seen by all as she broke free from all previous guidelines and laid waste to that wood!.

  arriving early, perhaps to show bbq expert older tom a thing or two about lighting fires, she gathered the plentiful supply of wood and underbrush.

  lit them with fire-sticks (did she cheat by using some flammable liquid?

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  siegswife

  It sounds like y'all know how to burn...cool...lol
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  How many things could I get DF'd for tonight?

  by rhett in

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  my wife and i just got home from a christmas party.

  before the party i took a shower and washed my long hair and trimmed my beard a bit.

  we then went to the christmas party that was being held by my friend ken and his partner steve.

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  siegswife

  (((Not so sure about that oral thing though. I hear it causes horrible breath.)))

  That's a myth. LOL
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  What's your spiritual type?

  by RR in

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  here's a test.

  http://www.beliefnet.com/section/quiz/index.asp?sectionid=&surveyid=27/.

  questioning believer you have doubts about the particulars but not the big stuff.

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  siegswife

  60 - 69
  Old-fashioned Seeker -- Happy with my religion but searching for the right expression of it....not bad...
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  What was your JW wedding song?

  by NikL in

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  i got to thinking the other day about how jws, at least when i got married in the hall could not use secular music for the ceremony.

  we there fore were forced to use kingdon melodies.

  anyone else have fond memories about your wedding song?.

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  siegswife

  Ewwwwww!