Posts by siegswife

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Dearest Siegswife...

by AGuest in

the greatest of love and peace to you, lea... and i think we are saying the same thing.

true, it seems unusual for the word "hymen" to be used.

what i first received i thought to be the "cervix"; my goodness, i had completely forgotten how the female body is truly constructed and that anything otherwise existed!

siegswife

I guess you have a point onacruse. That doesn't mean I have to like it though, does it?

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Dearest Siegswife...

by AGuest in

the greatest of love and peace to you, lea... and i think we are saying the same thing.

true, it seems unusual for the word "hymen" to be used.

what i first received i thought to be the "cervix"; my goodness, i had completely forgotten how the female body is truly constructed and that anything otherwise existed!

siegswife

As regards the same word being used to name a false god... dear Lea, you "know" me... to some degree, too. I would NEVER say such a thing unless I heard it from my Lord.

Shel, I know you wouldn't. I wasn't even questioning that and I think you've explained what you mean.

I wish people wouldn't use a thread addressed to me to attack you.

I always enjoy you posts even if I don't completely understand what you're trying to say sometimes. Try not to be sad, OK? It'll all work out.

xxxooo

Yours,

Lea

175

To The Folks

by Farkel in

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those of you that know me well know that i'm not going to say anything or much of anything anymore in this forum.. .

however, i will be offering much of my music instead.

i won't be posting it here anymore.

siegswife

I don't know about this "big ego" thing.

I would think that a "big ego" would be large enough to make allowances for and be respectful of the egos of others. On the otherhand, someone who lacks self esteem would feel threatened by and not respect the ego of others.

I think that we are mistaken to say that someone who doesn't have the largess to respect the id of others has "a big ego". IMO the opposite is the reality.

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John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed

by AGuest in

may you all have peace!.

i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.

some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.

siegswife

Shelby,

Sorry that I had to add another post to this, but I think it's important that I tell you this.

I'm inclined to think that the "curtain" being torn apart when Christ died is indicative of the non virginal state that the temple came to be in by reason of his being impaled. We all know what the method of his crucifixion signifies. It makes sense to me that the fact that since the leaders of the religion of Israel were implicated in his death (instead of their accepting him as their messiah) then at the point of his death they were no longer represented the virginal bride waiting for her husband to come.

That understanding also corespondes to the understanding that Christ became sin for us. The virgin gave herself to another and dissed her groom.

Shelby, you know that I'm not one to discount the revelations of others, and I don't want you to think that I'm in any way attacking you or trying to pry you from that which you're holding on to. Speaking from my own experience, I'm aware that many times the way I "see" isn't neccessarily "reality" and I've come to learn that my looking at my own perception through the eyes of others doesn't mean that I'm "letting go" of my faith.

I've even learned alot from atheists. That doesn't mean that I'm less faithful, it means I'm willing to keep on keepin' on.

Love you.

xxxooo

Lea

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John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed

by AGuest in

may you all have peace!.

i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.

some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.

siegswife

Dearest Shelby,

I'm wondering what exactly your inquiry to our Lord was. Were you wondering what the significance of the word "maidenhead" is? Is it possible that you were shown something that IS truly the etymology of the word, yet not applicable to our Lord in the way that you perceive it? It seems awfully strange to me that there is a god called Hymen who is the god of weddings, thereby making him the "maiden head" so to speak. Or is it that the false gods have their basis in truth?

Just wondering.

xxxooo

Yours,

Lea

HYMENIOS was one the EROTE -god of weddings. He personified the hymn sung outside the bridal chamber.

He was depicted as a winged Love-god carrying a bridal torch in his hand

http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/doolittle/hymen/1921-hymen.html

From the closed garden
Where our feet pace
Back and forth each day,
This gladiolus white,
This red, this purple spray–
Gladiolus tall with dignity
As yours, lady–we lay
Before your feet and pray:

Of all the blessings–
Youth, joy, ecstasy–
May one gift last
(As the tall gladiolus may
Outlast the wind-flower,
Winter-rose or rose),
One gift above,
Encompassing all those;

For her, for him,
For all within these palace walls,
Beyond the feast,
Beyond the cry of Hymen and the torch,
Beyond the night and music
Echoing through the porch till day.

Where the first crocus buds unfold
We found these petals near the cold
Swift river-bed.

Beneath the rocks where ivy-frond
Puts forth new leaves to gleam beyond
Those lately dead:

The very smallest two or three
Of gold (gold pale as ivory)
We gatherèd.

Never more will the wind
Cherish you again,
Never more will the rain.

Never more
Shall we find you bright
In the snow and wind.

The snow is melted,
The snow is gone,
And you are flown:

Like a bird out of our hand,
Like a light out of our heart,
You are gone.

Between the hollows
Of the little hills
The spring spills blue–
Turquoise, sapphire, lapis-lazuli–
On a brown cloth outspread.

Ah see,
How carefully we lay them now,
Each hyacinth spray,
Across the marble floor–
A pattern your bent eyes
May trace and follow
To the shut bridal door.

Lady, our love, our dear,
Our bride most fair,
They grew among the hollows
Of the hills;
As if the sea had spilled its blue,
As if the sea had risen
From its bed,
And sinking to the level of the shore,
Left hyacinths on the floor.

But of her
Who can say if she is fair?
Bound with fillet,
Bound with myrtle
Underneath her flowing veil,
Only the soft length
(Beneath her dress)
Of saffron shoe is bright
As a great lily-heart
In its white loveliness.

Antistrophe

But of her
We can say that she is fair.
We bleached the fillet,
Brought the myrtle;
To us the task was set
Of knotting the fine threads of silk:
We fastened the veil,
And over the white foot
Drew on the painted shoe
Steeped in Illyrian crocus.

Strophe

But of her,
Who can say if she is fair?
For her head is covered over
With her mantle
White on white,
Snow on whiter amaranth,
Snow on hoar-frost,
Snow on snow,
Snow on whitest buds of myrrh.

Antistrophe

But of her,
We can say that she is fair;
For we know underneath
All the wanness,
All the heat
(In her blanched face)
Of desire
Is caught in her eyes as fire
In the dark center leaf
Of the white Syrian iris.

Along the yellow sand
Above the rocks
The laurel-bushes stand.
Against the shimmering heat
Each separate leaf
Is bright and cold,
And through the bronze
Of shining bark and wood
Run the fine threads of gold

Here in our wicker-trays,
We bring the first faint blossoming
Of fragrant bays:

Lady, their blushes shine
As faint in hue
As when through petals
Of a laurel-rose
The sun shines through,
And throws a purple shadow
On a marble vase.

(Ah, love,
So her fair breasts will shine
With the faint shadow above.)

From citron-bower be her bed,
Cut from branch of tree a-flower,
Fashioned for her maidenhead.

From Lydian apples, sweet of hue,
Cut the width of board and lathe.
Carve the feet from myrtle-wood.

Let the palings of her bed
Be quince and box-wood overlaid
With the scented bark of yew.

That all the wood in blossoming,
May calm her heart and cool her blood
For losing of her maidenhood.

The crimson cover of her bed
Is not so rich, nor so deeply bled
The purple-fish that dyed it red,
As when in a hot sheltered glen
There flowered these stalks of cyclamen:

(Purple with honey-points
Of horns for petals;
Sweet and dark and crisp,
As fragrant as her maiden kiss.)

There with his honey-seeking lips
The bee clings close and warmly sips,
And seeks with honey-thighs to sway
And drink the very flower away.

(Ah, stern the petals drawing back;
Ah rare, ah virginal her breath!)

Crimson, with honey-seeking lips,
The sun lies hot across his back,
The gold is flecked across his wings.
Quivering he sways and quivering clings
(Ah, rare her shoulders drawing back!)
One moment, then the plunderer slips
Between the purple flower-lips.

Where love is king,
Ah, there is little need
To dance and sing,
With bridal-torch to flare
Amber and scatter light
Across the purple air,
To sing and dance
To flute-note and to reed.

Where love is come
(Ah, love is come indeed!)
Our limbs are numb
Before his fiery need;
With all their glad
Rapture of speech unsaid,
Before his fiery lips
Our lips are mute and dumb.

Ah, sound of reed,
Ah, flute and trumpet wail,
Ah, joy decreed–
The fringes of her veil
Are seared and white;
Across the flare of light,
Blinded the torches fail.
(Ah, love is come indeed!)

37

Americans Only--RSVP

by patio34 in

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we received our civil rights thru the efforts of our parents, g-parents, etc.

will we protect them for us and our children and grandchildren?

theyre the ones that will inherit what we do or dont do.

siegswife

When I was telling my mom (a Shrub supporter) that I think the current administration acts suspiciously like fascists she got quite offended (as do most Shrub supporters when you question their current god). "Are you telling me that I'm a fascist?" she asked.

I told her that I understand that fascism is an idealistic political philosophy, but yes, if she supports them that would make her a fascist.

What I don't understand is why ordinary working people would support fascists. The only people who really benefit are the elite. They try to demonize any perspective that attempts to give the working people a larger share of the pie...like labor unions...or anything that would undermine their elevated place in the world.

'Tis a mystery to me, since I saw this coming when they got so ballsy and obvious during the presidential selection.

Only in America do we impeach a president for lying about a bj, but sit back on our hands and do nothing when the president lies to accomplish a coup in another country. I guess that makes some sense though, people and the useless democrats in office did nothing to stop it when he did the same thing in this country.

BTW, does Florida have constitutional procedures for a vote recount in place yet?

128

Inky got a letter from her son.............you have to read this

by Mulan in

our niece, irene, who posts here as inky, sent me an email.

her 27 year old son is getting married in two weeks, and she posted a few days ago about how he didn't invite her to his wedding.. she told me i can post it as she doesn't want to read it again.. "dear mom.

i've needed to write this letter to you for some time now.

siegswife

(((((((Inky)))))))) I'm so sorry that you had to read that letter even once. Add me to the speechless class.

xxxooo

Lea

145

John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed

by AGuest in

may you all have peace!.

i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.

some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.

siegswife

Hi Shelby! I haven't read this whole thread, but the thought that you're expounding on corresponds to Matthew 27:50, 51 "Again Jesus cried out with a loud voice, and yielded up His Spirit. And, look! the curtain of the sactuary was rent in two, from top to bottom, and the earth quaked, and the rock-masses were split."

I've felt for awhile that this represented the "virginity" of the temple. I'm not sure if I'm understanding your take on it, but considering the significance of the manner of His death and the fact that He became "sin" for us is what made me feel that way about the curtain of the temple.

xxxooo

Lea

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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #53

by ozziepost in

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friends

what a glorious weekend!

hope yours is too.

weather down here is just perfect.

siegswife

Look donkey, I don't want to hijack ozzie's thread so I'll make this brief.

So let me see if I understand this then. You believe in some unprovable/unknowable being(there imaginary friend - if you cannot prove his existence then he is imaginary until you can prove otherwise) who speaks to the "select few". You then disregard the "select few" but still believe in the unprovable/unknowable being but now find some other source for the unprovable/unkowable being to supposedly communicate to you? Did I understand that correctly?

No, do you do not understand that correctly regarding what I believe, OK?

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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #53

by ozziepost in

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friends

what a glorious weekend!

hope yours is too.

weather down here is just perfect.

siegswife

That's funny donkey. I find it weird that someone could have faith in God and then because they have a bad experience in a religion decide that He's an imaginary friend. Strange world, huh?