Tonus and Enough l think that those comments are spot on .
Jan from Tam
i've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.
i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).
i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.
Tonus and Enough l think that those comments are spot on .
Jan from Tam
i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.
see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.
so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.
I think that l would get fed up of having to watch my words all the time .
Like l said in my original post are you really free?
Jan from Tam
https://www.jwupdates.com/post/conscription-fears-across-europe-could-end-jehovah-s-witnesses.
as the clouds of war are gathering fast over the european continent many countries including britain are contemplating a return to conscription and some form of mandatory military service.
considering the fact that the watchtower fought long and hard especially in europe for the right of its believers to abstain from military service it is very interesting to see how this new development will affect the watchtower across europe.
I would like to know where he got that from . It just seems to be his own opinion.
Jan from Tam
the faithful slave is considered god's channel of communication.
( though not inspired of god ) does anyone else find the use of the word channel interesting in this regard?
from where i am sitting it denotes spiritism.
Or Deut 18 : 22
' When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord , if the thing follows not , nor comes to pass that is the thing that the Lord hath not spoken but the prophet spoke it presumptuously, thou shalt not be afraid of him '
the faithful slave is considered god's channel of communication.
( though not inspired of god ) does anyone else find the use of the word channel interesting in this regard?
from where i am sitting it denotes spiritism.
Jeremiah 14:14
Then the Lord said to me
" The prophets are prophesying lies in my name . I have not sent them or appointed them or spoke to them . They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolotries and the delusions of their own minds "
Jan from Tam
i've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.
i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).
i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.
Sue , l am sorry to hear that you feel so depressed about life. I'm a never JW but like most on here l don't believe that going back will help .
You say that you can't talk to a counsellor because it would give a bad impression of the org . Doesn't that tell you all you need to know ? It means that the org IS bad .
Earlier l saw your post about other churches and found it hard to take in . I was going to be rather forthright in my reply. Reading your comments on here l realise that it wouldn't have been right.
I have been a member of my local church for many years ( Anglican, Church of England) . I truly think that if you had gone to other churches you would have found friends, non judgemental , loving friends .
We do study the Bible in home groups and our services aren't just about music and a couple of feel good verses .Though l think that you really need those right now.
You say that there is no real direction given ( I'm paraphrasing now )
That, l suspect, is the crux of the matter. You seem to miss the regimented approach of the WT . Like someone leaving the army who can't cope with not being told what to do .
Counselling will help with that , so l go back to my earlier point of giving a bad impression. Maybe you are scared of the impression that you will make on your self .
Please try it and embrace where it takes you . There are lots of Christians out there waiting to be your friends
Jan from Tam.
i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.
see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.
so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.
I sort of get why people choose to fade but are you ever free ? You can't celebrate birthdays or Christmas if you want to . Can you have worldly friends? It seems like the Watchtower still kinda runs your life
I may be wrong about what you can actually get away with, but l am curious as to how much of a hold the Org does still have on you .
Do people who have made a clean break feel a sense of relief that they are free to live their lives as they wish ?
Does that outweigh the fact that some family and friends no longer talk to them ?
Jan from Tam
jw claim they are the true religion and they mention the love they have among themselves as proof.
i have been watching a youtube creator who had some thoughts on the subject, bringing out jw were not really christian, based upon their actions.
he made a pretty good case.
JeffT and Sea Breeze l totally agree , all my local churches are happy to work together.
Jan from Tam.
jw claim they are the true religion and they mention the love they have among themselves as proof.
i have been watching a youtube creator who had some thoughts on the subject, bringing out jw were not really christian, based upon their actions.
he made a pretty good case.
Acts 2 verses 42-47 are interesting in many ways .
Verse 45 says
" they sold property and possessions to give to any who had need "
So love and charity are much in evidence here among the early believers.
Now most Christians today don't go that far but do support charities which are organised to help " those in need " worldwide.
Most campaign for governments and councils to act fairly to people and provide support to those who need it
Of course Witnesses are only allowed to donate money to the Org. for who knows what purpose.
They aren't allowed to participate in "politics " so can't hold those in power to account
Those verses also say that believers met together daily to break bread . Which would indicate that they celebrated the Lord's Supper . So the Org are wrong about that as well.
the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lieĀ or it is impossible for god to lie.
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so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
PioneerSchmioneer and Peaceful Pete all good points .
Jan from Tam