Posts by jhine

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First Church Service at 55 years Old

by SouthCentral in

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i went to a christening at a church today, a black church.

it was an incredible experience!!

women were an active part of the service, and the people were very welcoming.

jhine

Hi SouthCentral , welcome to a whole new experience. Churches are soooooo different to K Hs .

I am a member of a Church of England church and play a full part in the running of the church. I am on the PCC ( parochial church council) l do the readings and prayers once a month at our traditional sung Evensong service.

We have recently had a new LADY vicar , she's brilliant . You will get a warm , genuine welcome and no judgement.

I feel sad when people lump all religious folk together through the prism of JWism.

Jan from Tam

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WT needs your kids uneducated: CO training video is Master Class in F.O.G. This is jaw-droppingly stupid. Beyond moronic, it's sub-moronic.

by WingCommander in

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co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.

today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.

it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.

jhine

Hoser , a GOOD education doesn't just teach facts it encourages critical thinking. It encourages you to question everything and reason for yourself.

Home education could fall down in that area . Mom and Dad could , if they wished , impress upon their children the values and world view that they hold .

EG a racist couple will indoctrinate their children to be racist .

I understand that some JW parents home school to indoctrinate their children in JW teaching and keep them ' safe ' from worldly values .

A good education introduces young people to a raft of world views and ideas and encourages them to examine and critique what they hear and read .

Jan from Tam

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WT needs your kids uneducated: CO training video is Master Class in F.O.G. This is jaw-droppingly stupid. Beyond moronic, it's sub-moronic.

by WingCommander in

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co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.

today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.

it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.

jhine

Another might ruffle feathers post from me .

I have noticed on other social media sites that there is a general feeling even among Americans that Republicans want a non educated society. The reason being that people who are badly educated are easier to manipulate.

I again point out that The Org. started in America. It seems that The Watchtower is a mini version of GOP in many ways .

Produce followers who are incapable of critical thinking and bend and use them as you like .

Jan from Tam

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Remember the sex talks?

by KerryKing in

i remember sitting through public talks where the speaker spent the hour discussing in great detail anal sex, masturbation (of yourself and others), sex during menstruation and so on.

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i was a child, looking back now, i realise that they systematically stripped away our childhood innocence, we knew and heard things no 'worldly' child would have heard.. the child abuse and grooming happened to every single one of us, the feelings of guilt and shame was in all of us even if we didn't actually do anything bad, the mental images caused by these filthy men hung around in our innocent minds till there was no room for that innocence.. it has taken me 44 years to realise that what was done to us, even those of us not physically abused, is a crime.. do they still have talks like that nowadays i wonder?

jhine

TonusOH , from what l read about American politics it seems that the religious far right still holds considerable sway over many senators.

Jan from Tam

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Remember the sex talks?

by KerryKing in

i remember sitting through public talks where the speaker spent the hour discussing in great detail anal sex, masturbation (of yourself and others), sex during menstruation and so on.

.

i was a child, looking back now, i realise that they systematically stripped away our childhood innocence, we knew and heard things no 'worldly' child would have heard.. the child abuse and grooming happened to every single one of us, the feelings of guilt and shame was in all of us even if we didn't actually do anything bad, the mental images caused by these filthy men hung around in our innocent minds till there was no room for that innocence.. it has taken me 44 years to realise that what was done to us, even those of us not physically abused, is a crime.. do they still have talks like that nowadays i wonder?

jhine

Just when l thought that l.had heard everything about the Org.

I know that l will ruffle feathers here but this obsession with sex seems very American. Which of course is where Jehovah's Witnesses started and where all the teachings come from

Like the American Evangelical Trump supporters obsession with abortion and birth control

Jan from Tam

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unbaptized boy having priority over women

by enoughisenough in

i was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.

; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.

would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.

jhine

Absolutely Vidiot

Jan from Tam

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unbaptized boy having priority over women

by enoughisenough in

i was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.

; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.

would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.

jhine

I have been reading about Phoebe who Paul thinks very highly of. He describes her as a Deacon and in Romans 16 says that she has been helpful to him and to many

So Paul had no problem with a woman being a Deacon and in giving credit where it was due. It seems that she had been sent to the church in Rome as a messenger for Paul .

This adds weight to the argument that his negative comments about women are in response to a particular problem in that church.

Jan from Tam

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Holding a grudge

by LongHairGal in

i read something recently on reddit (not sure what thread) where a person related how some jw told them that ‘they hold a grudge’.. this reminded me of something an old jw acquaintance said to me some years back when i related my bad experience in the religion.. so, apparently, jehovah’s witnesses feel they should be forgiven for anything.

people should forget all about it and act like nothing happened and be charitable towards them, etc… when i read in james and ephesians i got the sense ‘holding a grudge’ was referring to the things average people do to offend each other.. i don’t see it applying to a religion that claimed to speak for god and who engendered hateful and unchristian attitudes towards people.. i know because i experienced this.. in addition, some people’s lives were damaged by listening to faulty teachings and interference in things that were clearly none of anybody’s business.. one case in point: them knocking worldly careers and now there are thousands of destitute jws in senior years with nothing.. then in 2023 the religion does away with a century old teaching about counting hours in the ministry.

meanwhile, i got judged over this.

jhine

LongHairGal, l think that it's two different things . Not holding a grudge is as much to do with the effect that it has on you . Keeping hold of negative feelings can literally have a negative effect on us not just mentally but physically

People can forgive someone for burgling them, as in let the negative feelings go. That doesn't mean that the burglar shouldn't be arrested and face the legal consequences of their actions.

Warning people about the Watchtower and trying to stop the abusive behaviour doesn't necessarily mean holding a grudge .

I have never been a JW but as l have become more aware of how they operate l do try to counter their teaching and make people aware that they are a cult .

No grudge involved.

Jan from Tam

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unbaptized boy having priority over women

by enoughisenough in

i was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.

; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.

would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.

jhine

Kerry King that is just what l was going to say. There was probably an issue in that particular congregation. Where Christian congregations had been established in areas where traditionally pagan gods had been worshipped it may have been a very different set up .

If Temple prostitutes had been the norm those women may not have liked their loss of status and could have been causing problems. That is just one possible scenario that could have prompted Paul to give that instruction.

On the subject of husbands and wives in his letter to the Ephesians Paul says " husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself "

Jan from Tam.

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Re-activate me?

by punkofnice in

there was a knock at my door and i thought it was my take-away being delivered.. long story short, it was 2 elders calling to see me.

i guess to re-activate me.

once they said who they were i recognised them.

jhine

Hi Paul , well done .

Jan from Tam