I think she said she was living with her mom and planning to move into her old place.
I'd get engaged so they would keep quiet. No one says you have to get married!
my boyfriend was disgusted with the jws after the panorama programme, and has decided to da himself.
none of his family are jw and he just simply does not want to be listed as a jw anymore.. since we are known by the congregation to be together, will they da or df me for seeing him?.
bear in mind, neither of us have set foot in the kh for a couple of years.
I think she said she was living with her mom and planning to move into her old place.
I'd get engaged so they would keep quiet. No one says you have to get married!
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how can all of you say that you are disgusted etc when you dont know any thing about the organisation?.
im sure you didnt really worry before but now you are all acting upset etc.. i stress to say that it is accusations not fact.. i am 16 and found the program annoying in the fact that we were portrayed completely wrong.. the bbc could say what they liked.. i think that people should be more sincere and less assuming.. thanks, mark
My gosh, they belittled the ones bringing food and water??? They ought to read their own reasoning book and see where it says that sometimes immediate attention to physical need is appropriate!!!!!
donald, my thanks for your amazing letter.
i am assuming you know she was my mother.
the benefits of her column will never be known, but there are countless people, like you, who had a light bulb turned on by her work.
Wow, I just read the reviews of your book. My heart aches for you, if this is Donald.
My God, how does one move on? What happened to your relationship with your mother since she continued to live with him after she knew of the abuse?
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how can all of you say that you are disgusted etc when you dont know any thing about the organisation?.
im sure you didnt really worry before but now you are all acting upset etc.. i stress to say that it is accusations not fact.. i am 16 and found the program annoying in the fact that we were portrayed completely wrong.. the bbc could say what they liked.. i think that people should be more sincere and less assuming.. thanks, mark
Welcome to the board, Mark. I hope you got a good rest last night (which is my tonight). Please try to look thru the posts and see that there are many who are upset here. Upset because of the policies of the WTS that have tremendously effected their lives.
I think that you have to be a parent to realize what it would be like if your child was molested and you were not allowed to warn your best friends in the hall! Or warn your other good friends in the hall this molester chose to move to in order to avoid you.
I think that you would be upset if you were a victim and not allowed to take the brother to the courts because the brothers didn't want Jehovah's name smeared. I am sorry, its not Jehovah's name, its the molester and that molester is not truly a brother, so I wouldn't have a problem. But elders try to convince you that its Jehovah's name being dragged thru the muck and try to tell you the molester is "sorry".
Mark, there are many people here who are JW's and others who are ex-JW's. I am df'd. I was attending meetings until March of this year. I regular pioneered for 5 years and auxilliared for 1 year. I was baptized in 91 and df'd in 2002. I was truly sorry for what happened, and no the elders didn't have several meetings to "help me", just one ...... then the axe. The elders say they try to provoke repentance, they try to reason and help the erring one. That did NOT HAPPEN. They asked if I had been going to meetings, out in service and studying my WT..... I said yes.... geez I guess that should have kept me from sinning.
Mark, you are young compared to most of us, so forgive us if we seem to "parent" you.
i know a couple of sisters who have been canseled by the elders for wearing a little bit to short skirt.
i just wonder what serena's elders think when they see pictures of her like this in magazines.
is she still in good standing?
Here, locally, we have heard that the sisters are not baptized. Their mom is, they were raised in the truth, but never got baptized.
starting tomorrow, i will be filling in the blank each day with the name of a "person of significance" that goes with the city, county and state.
it's up to you to decide what this list is about ... feel free to add your own list of persons of significance.
i cannot say anything negative that is untrue about such persons lest i libel them ... such as i could not tell you if any of these names are part of the list of 23,770, because i cannot prove it, and i don't have access to that list ... but as long as what i post is the truth, then that is my defense ... and may the watchtower dare to bring about a lawsuit ... nbc dateline and bbc panorama will also be invited to the party ... .
I am from Northern Cal too! Remember, Sams in Tiburon? Or the Valhalla in Sausalito (now its the Charthouse)?
i am just wondering, because i think for me it did.
i am a woman with grown children,.
so i am coming to these things from a different stage in life than many do, but since.
Sorry Charlie, my ex-husband had flash backs, doctor said it was from a bad LSD trip. And Comf, I prefer you not swear at me when you comment.
i am just wondering, because i think for me it did.
i am a woman with grown children,.
so i am coming to these things from a different stage in life than many do, but since.
Marijuana just made me sleepy and hungry. I hated it.
Mushrooms, well they made me laugh. Always had fun on them, even tho they tasted funny.
LSD, not stupid enough to try it. Wrecks the brain, you can have bad trips years later.
Cocaine, it was fun. Made me talk lots, made us stay up late and play cards. Got too expensive and too addictive. Had to change friends.
Glad I am a grown up now, its all illegal and I wouldn't want to get arrested, lose my job or even worse, lose my child over something like this.
can anyone tell me where to find the verse that says "god is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow?
" thanks!
See also Hebrews 1:12 (not the scrip you are looking for, but shows that God doesn't change), then there is the one in Hebrews 6:17, 18. It's impossible for him to lie, the 2 unchangeable things: his promise and his oath.
sometimes when i think back about when i was a dub, i get a little embarrassed.
i remember telling my kids not to draw on watchtower mags (i also had to tell their mother) i was a grown man and would let nerd elders counsel me for dumb things, like saying the word luck, or bulletin board.
i remember getting to the end of the month and not having the cong average field service time and start to worry what the other elders and co would say.
We were told they didn't call it "Bulletin board" because on a bulletin board, information was allowed to be posted by anyone and things removed by anyone. Our halls always called it the Information Board because only the elders deemed what was necessary/important enough to be on it....
Was I embarrassed, yes......when someone sneezed and I couldn't say, "bless you" and when we had to scurry out before the national anthem at a sports event. Embarrassed? Yes, when I didn't go to my high school reunion because there would only be worldly people there. Embarrassed? Yes, when I backed out of my only sister's wedding 2 months beforehand because I didn't know it wasn't kosher for JW's to not be in the ceremony of my Catholic sister.