Posts by singsongboi

i've made a few friends here on this forum in the year i have been posting, but it saddens me to hear that one of them is being treated as if they are a troll.. yes, i know, there are a few trolls that frequent this forum but we can't treat all newcomers as such.

they come here for help and by our treating them as trolls.

we are actually making them feel shunned.. please give people the benefit of the doubt and treat them as the human being they are.

singsongboi

that makes sense -- discuss the idea, not the messenger!

Christian Neutrality-other areas for research.

by singsongboi in

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i've just been reading thru tallyman's thread, and the jw 'crawler' in dachau ( and individual act, of course!)...

wonder did they df this guy after the war?

and then there is rutherford's 'offer to deal' with the nazi's.. quote:... "and then, the watchtower society, scorned by hitler, started publishing bad things about nazism in their literature, whereas up to that point they were silent.".

singsongboi

i've just been reading thru tallyman's thread, and the jw 'crawler' in dachau ( and individual act, of course!)... wonder did they df this guy after the war?

and then there is rutherford's 'offer to deal' with the nazi's.

quote:... "And then, the Watchtower Society, scorned by Hitler, started publishing bad things about Nazism in their literature, whereas up to that point they were silent."

and, of course, the UN deal...

all leads to a question - are there more skeltons in the cupboard?

maybe! -- here's one that someone in the US may be able to research.

in the 60's, some particularly strong anti-communist articles appeared in the magazines... and about the some time the US State department started to protest to various countries about their treatment of Jws (particularly missionaries that were US citizens).

at the time i was startled by both events - because to me neutrality meant - 'taking no part, not involved in a war or a dispute. but
clearly "neutrality" has flexible borders for the WTS.

so was there a 'deal' or a failed 'deal' there somewhere?

had a representative of the wts tried to organise something in moscow and failed - something like the hitler deal?

OR had they done a deal with the US government that in return for support in countries where there was opposition to the work of jws, they would print articles that supported the US position in the then cold war?

anyone got ways to find out?

**(well, according to various WTS comments - i mean that's where we kept up with the world eh?)

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what pattern do Jws follow

by WildTurkey in

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jws think that they are patterned after the first century congregation and that is what the gb wants them to think.

i gave and heard several talks on how we follow that pattern, but then i would read what is says in the elder book ( pay attention to yourself and the flock) in unit 6 a).

jehovah has an earthly household, or organization, to.

singsongboi

hey! u forgot 'genocide'.

in the world today the europeans would be trying to arrest joshua and bring him to trial..

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Load of crap

by yumbby in

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in reading previous posts, i had to notice how many of the threads deal with people in the organization who have had serious problems and instead of getting help from the elders, they are driven away sometimes into suicide or a life of severe depression.

it reminds me of my sister.

when i was being reproved for leaving home, i was trying to make the point of why i had to leave the way i did and i related that 2 months earlier my sister had ran away because of a beating my mother had given her, and my sister thought my mother was going to kill her.

singsongboi

i think, drahcir yarrum, that the reasons for this are complex. i agree that there is a strong "rod of correction' culture among the witnesses -- but it is not the only factor.

another factor surely is the large percentage of people from lower socio-economic groups who do not have good skills in nurturing children. they tend to let there kids go to far and then use slapping & yelling as a control method.

then, there are some who have personality dis-orders and get out of control. my former wife (as a child & up to 16 y.o) had been beaten by her father with a length of 3" x 2" wood in public, to the point where other brothers were forced to intervene.

in our own family life, she never felt discipline was any good, unless it was violent.

as to "german" influence, maybe it's an anglo-saxon thing. but that's hard for me to judge since i have not lived in any other sort of culture. however, i have noted that in the suburb of sydney where i live, which now has a very large population of australians who have come to aust. from the PR of china, that they seldom seem to have to rebuke their children in public.

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Art in Afghanistan

by cellomould in

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from nytimes online .

dr. asefi is an artist who, at great personal risk, had disguised the figures of human beings in 80 oil paintings at the gallery by applying a veneer of watercolor paint over them.

he had thus saved the pictures from destruction at the hands of the taliban, who had forbidden representations of the human form as sacrilege.

singsongboi

thanx for that cellomould.

appreciated it.

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They DF'd my freind for internet violation #1

by biblexaminer in

i have a question.

there's this friend who was df'd recently.

he has been snooping the inet.

singsongboi

the inconsistency in "judgements" by different BOE's is veri interesting..

hard to see god's consistent judgements in operation?

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The spring analogy

by taoInitiate in

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i think most witnesses (and ex-wits) will have heard of the "spring analogy" often used by witnesses in "youth talks".. it states that a young person who is "let on the loose" too quickly by his/her parents can be like a spring which is held tightly between the fingers and then suddenly released.

both can fly off in any random direction.. i was just thinking this could probably be applied to those leaving any sort of constraining, or limiting, situation.

(think cults, etc.).

singsongboi

!!! booooooiiiiiinnnnnngggg! !!!!!
see can happen to old ones too!!!

but shit! i'm having a good time.

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Religious Restraining Orders: Do U Want 1?

by Mindchild in

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i thought this court case was rather interesting.

in short, the baptist church in iowa got a permanent restraining order against anyone who is "unsaved.

" that is right, if you are not a baptist you can't come within ten miles of this church without getting arrested.. you can find the original pdf legal document at this url: www.landoverbaptist.org/news0301/courtcase.pdf.

singsongboi

doan fear mindchild - i fell into same trap!!
then i woke up!! and ...laughed like hell at that site... such a send-up.. so well written.

here's one of my favourite bits.... sent it to so many friends, some still think it's genuine.

Nancy Boy Chrissy, The Bed-Wetting Sissy!

-by Pastor Deacon Fred (featuring Christian poems from Sister Taffy Crockett)

Summary: Do you know someone whose child seems a bit effeminate? Does he dress a little too neatly? Take too much time with his schoolwork? Is he suspiciously polite to grown-ups? Well, "Nancy Boy Chrissy, the Bed Wetting Sissy" is just the holiday gift to provide the tools his parents will need to embarrass and taunt him back to masculinity.

This beautifully illustrated book tells the story of Christopher Pansy, a 12-year old boy who is gayer than a May Pole. He is a constant humiliation to his normal, Christian parents. While other boys in the neighborhood are riding bikes and killing stray cats, Christopher loves to prance about, looking through his telescope, making maps of the stars and taking hot food to shut-ins. His parents try to humiliate him with derisive rhymed chants (CD included), snakes, spankings and the hot side of a Sears iron, but nothing seems to work.

Finally, some of the neighborhood real boys corner Christopher after school behind the gymnasium. They strip the little sissy of all his girlish clothes, righteously tell him that Jesus hates fems ("Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor abusers of themselves with mankind." I Cor 6:9), then they sodomize him and throw stones at him until he dies.

After this exciting chapter, the Lord Jesus blesses Christopher's parents with a real boy, Rodney. When Rodney is 7, he meets a boy at school who seems gay so his parents teach him the chants they used to mock his dead brother Christopher.

In this way, children hearing this delightful story, not only learn a valuable lesson about what happens to queers, they also have the fun of repeating and memorizing the catchy, inventive jeers that they will be able to use against their suspiciously fey playmates. Parents who enjoyed reading "Dita the Dirty Dutch Diesel Dyke" to their daughters will want to pick up a copy of "Nancy Boy Chrissy, the Bed-wetting Sissy" for their boys.