Posts by singsongboi

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LOGICAL - Why are you always so sad, fed up &

by Celtic in

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lonely?

ever since i've come to this board, you take every opportunity possible to imform everyone else how sad you are, do you ever give encouragement back to others, or have you always been like this, doing your best to stay as miserable as can be?.

you know theres lots of people here who would like to help you, given the chance, in fact i can't even be bothered to give you any encouragement this time, cos all you do every time you see someone in chat is tell them how lonely and sad you are.

singsongboi

i don't know logical very well, but have been involved with one conversation that has indicated the cause of the problem, and the problem discussed is one of my interests.

the fact is that logical is here, and here by choice --- so the board is meeting a need for logical !!

i only hope that logical is using information on other sites as well..

one thing is sure that the average congregation of jws would not be able to assist logical in anyway at all.

but if logical gets on top of troubles he can have a great life!!!!!

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intersexed individuals & jws.

by singsongboi in

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i'm looking for information & experiences that intersexed people may have had in the congregations of jws.. if u are not sure what an intersexed person is u could check out this site... http://hermaphrodite.arriba.net/ .

or if u pefer your text to be paper based rather than pixel, try the book ' hermaphrodites & the medical invention of sex', by alice domerut dreger (1998)... i seem to remember an australian transexual who had been male & a jw and who finished up in the uk.... wrote a book if i remember correctly!

possibly his/her first name was also ken.. would appreciate any information & experiences-- whether positive or negative

singsongboi

i'm looking for information & experiences that intersexed people may have had in the congregations of jws.

if u are not sure what an intersexed person is u could check out this site... http://hermaphrodite.arriba.net/
or if u pefer your text to be paper based rather than pixel, try the book ' hermaphrodites & the medical invention of sex', by alice domerut dreger (1998)..

i seem to remember an australian transexual who had been male & a jw and who finished up in the UK.... wrote a book if i remember correctly! possibly his/her first name was also ken.

would appreciate any information & experiences-- whether positive or negative

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I'm an Apostate!!! It's official!

by ashitaka in

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we've been called 'with no uncertainty' apostates!!

how charming.. well, certain elders interrorgated a friend, slamming their hands on the table on every one of these words,.

"what do you know about ashi and water goddess?".

singsongboi

kinda seems like an award for bravery these days!!!!

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Forgotten/Unforgotten Friends

by kheli in

since i am recently out of the "truth", i still find that i have a couple of people that i really miss.

i have managed to get past the stage of obsessing about whether or not certain people still think/care about me.. but, every now and then i wonder about my (ex)best friend.

she was like a sister to me.

singsongboi

i was realli messed up mentally and emotionally at the time i was df'ed!

but i kinda realised that i would be df'ed and i fully expected to be, and i guess secretly wanted to be.... so i had enough sense to make some preparations.

the weekend before the final committee meeting was a D-ASS - so i spent the last day saying goodbye to people i cared about -- which, of course, got str8 back to the JC and was brought up at that meeting..

so in a way i got closure on my friendships...

but, it was still a shock to be df'ed....!!! and i spent some time trying to go back, but something inside me was not going to go back into that box!!!

and then i met my chyeboi and the sun started to shine and there were rainbows everywhere -- not to mention the music!!

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What is you occupation

by Beans in

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im a liceinced electrician now working in wireless communication installations.i love the electrical industry,there is so much to learn and so many different things do work with and technology is always changing.never a boaring day especially when we are working in the office buildings downtown,chicks everywhere!.

beans.

singsongboi

design kitchens and bars for commercial premises ---

got interested in this field years ago -- found no courses in oz, so taught myself from text books (would not have had enuf money with a young family, to pay for full time study anyway)

took a year off in 2000 to do a full time course to improve engineering drafting skills and learn to use autocad.. had a ball as the oldest kid in the class!

found that i love studying, and now plan to start a degree course in chinese studies in about 3 years -- hopefully thru to a masters.. then i can die in peace...

now realise the saddest thing about jws is their rejection of real knowledge....!!!!

kenni

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was there anything good?

by singsongboi in

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i sometimes ask myself this question - i think i was 'there' for nearly 40 years and wonder at the waste.. what good came from it?

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did anyone really find some good in all of the things we did?

singsongboi

yay! beck --
i thot long time too...

can relate to what you say -- seen it all in my own family!!

but this matter of materialism is a funni one... in my last congregation ( Baulkham Hills, Sydney) one of the elders, an ex bethelite built a quite large house.... he'd become prosperous thru one of those little business deals tha sometimes take off.

i look at my life, and wonder where the 40 years went...!!! but maybe all life is like that!!

there were some happy times tho...can't write it all off. ... but gotta say that i have more genuinely happy times now..!!

tell u one problem tho... i have to check myself all the time for thinking in apocalyptic terms!!!!!

thanx everyone for sharing some thoughts...

kenni

i guess no-one had the courage to call him materialistic!

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Post your poems, or others' poems

by ashitaka in

this is my view of the witnesses, keeping to the jw theme here.

i'll post a nice love poem too to make up for it.. comon people, show me your work, or stuff that you like!.

ashi.

singsongboi

this is about my partner...

when i was a df'ed -- even tho i knew that it was inevitable' i was truly lost -- spent 6 months trying to put myself back into a neat little box.

as an incentive, i set suicide as the default if i failed. after 6 months i knew i had failed! but my pragmatic streak said that if i was going to commit that sin (suicide), then go out on a high note... have a holiday on visa card, with a friend - do all the things i only dreamed of, send him home and drive the rented car off a cliff!!!!!!!

as a candidate for the holiday partner i met chye....never got on that holiday, got involved in his problems and have been together ever since... that was 13 years ago!!! (btw he's just had his 40th birthday-still won't let me buy him a present, but not for the jw reasons).

so u may glimpse a little of why he is so impartent in my life!!

The Man Who Shares My Life.

This man shares my life,
lying beside me,
golden skin gleaming
in early morning light.

This man shares my body
as I share his,
Excitement and pleasure blended
with the love we share.

This is my man,
I live with him.
I live for him
I in him and he in me.

Without him,
the world would lose its color,
turning grey and grainy
like a wet winters morning.

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was there anything good?

by singsongboi in

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i sometimes ask myself this question - i think i was 'there' for nearly 40 years and wonder at the waste.. what good came from it?

.

did anyone really find some good in all of the things we did?

singsongboi

i sometimes ask myself this question - i think i was 'there' for nearly 40 years and wonder at the waste.

what good came from it?

did anyone really find some good in all of the things we did?

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Watchtower retirement program!

by buffalosrfree in

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i know a brother and his wife, she was a pioneer for many years, and he rather than returning home stayed because "we need you j..." well the congregation may have needed him, another zombie is always useful.

but when i think about how they have to live thier life now, the watchtower retirement for loyal dubs, is welfare, and social security.

it makes me sick they have no children and no means to really get along they are dependent of the government they hope to see exterminated at armageddon.

singsongboi

hmmmmm!!

there must be a lot of folks out there doing it really tough.....!!

i bought the whole jw deal, of having as little to do with the 'old' world as possible, don't get an education, pioneer, doan buy a house and so on....

then i had a car accident and tho unharmed, realised how close i came to death and asked myself the Q -- what kind of life would my family have had, if i had been killed?

so i set out to raise the money (working harder) to get a house...to be told by my ever-so-zealous former father-in-law.. that i was on the way out of the truth!! (well! guess he was right after all)

it's strange but when i was disfellowshipped, and my wife said she wanted a divorce (I gave her everything - without a legal fight), i walked away from 30+ years of my life with nothing......!!

but, i met my present partner,who had a genius for saving money, (tho totally uneducated).... now we own our own apartment, with a second (fully owned) on the way....

once it would have be seen as the result of jehovahs' blessing, now i know the truth -- it was a fortunate coincidence that we met, and sheer hard work and good managment !!!

I expected at the time i was disfellowshipped to be an old man in a country town on social services!!! indeed, i'm told that the the disfellowshipping committee still predict that future for me!!!

but, i have better than that - and a lot more happiness!!!

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More Confessions of a former MOONIE - Part #2

by ros in

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part 2 - more confessions from steve hassons book, combatting cult mind control:.

keep it in mind folks, the experience here was moonies, not jehovahs witnesses.

thats what makes it good to show jws--they cant justify calling it apostate.. some basic principles of social psychology and group dynamics:.

singsongboi

really great stuff -- thanx for posting it!!