LOGICAL

Celtic

lonely? Why?

Ever since I've come to this board, you take every opportunity possible to imform everyone else how sad you are, do you ever give encouragement back to others, or have you always been like this, doing your best to stay as miserable as can be?

You know theres lots of people here who would like to help you, given the chance, in fact I can't even be bothered to give you any encouragement this time, cos all you do every time you see someone in Chat is tell them how lonely and sad you are. Do you not take in any of the advice in this community at all? No, don't get giving me that your'e a special unique case baloney, I've heard it enough countless times before.

Come on Logical, for you alone, this adage is fitting, but its about time you started pulling your own weight around here and taking responsibility for your own feelings. Your'e certainly not stupid, but we don't like it so much when you infer that it is us that are stupid by not understanding you, complete crap boy.

I've stuck up for you on a number of occassions, so come on, start contributing more positively your part, we've all been through ruddy shit.

Kindest regards

Mark

i try

Legion

Time for a little home truth!

i try

Hahahahahahahah!.......This is the funniest, biggest and best piece of BULLSHIT ! that I have seen posted to this forum in months of lurking for information about the WT.

Logical tries!.......Hahahashahahahah.......Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off!

You miserable, pathethic, selfish, master manipulator!......If there is anyone on this forum that is severely into pshychological manipulation and "swine wallowing" in "muck holes of self pity" its you!

Not once have I ever seen you give a word of encouragement to someone else who is suffering . Not once have I seen a kind message intended to cheer someone up, posted by you.

You suck emotional energy from everyone you can, you behave like a blood sucking leech sucking the red stuff from any victim you can!

And now because someone has called you for what you are, you will whine and grovel in self pity for as long as you can find more victims.

You make me want to puke!!!!

Ciao BABY !!

logical

still cant post under your real ID?

Come on, only registered today and you sure think you know a lot about me.

Celtic

Legion, I'm not having a dig for the sake of it at Logical, so as a newbie, you can pack in the sarcasm right away.

Logical, please, just keep trying a little bit harder k? Just a few words of enjoyment from you would bring great delight to many on this board. I wouldn't say these things if I didn't give a damn, so, just a wee lil bit? Please?!!!

You take care, ya hear me?!!

All the best!!

Mark
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gotcha

AGuest

Dearest Legion... may you have peace... and may I say that must vehemently disagree with you?

While it is true that Logical doesn't say much in the way of encouragement here on the Board, we have on occasion 'chatted' elsewhere and from time to time I HAVE been encouraged. And no, not generally, but personally. It's just that speaking positively is not an easy task for this one... and there is a 'history' that explains it (and no, you others, it has nothing to do with the current state of things in Logical's life. Many of us, indeed, MOST of us, are products of our environment, and we should all keep that in mind. Indeed, if we love, TRULY... we will).

My dearest dear one, Log... won't you be kind enough to condescend and 'hear' what some of these dear people are saying to you? They/we/I need you... as much as you need them/us/me. Love is a GIVING emotion, dear one... and I know you have love: I have seen it demonstrated by you myself. Or, rather, heard it. These, though, feel they have been giving to you, but receiving nothing in return. And while it is true that their only concern SHOULD be in giving, I would offer that so, too, yours should be also. If one is ALWAYS on the RECEIVING end, and never (well, almost never) on the GIVING end, then who is there to replenish the others? No one. And eventually, they are sucked dry. Yes? Yes.

The ONLY One who can give constantly, without needing to receive, dear one... is our Lord, the Son of God, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH. His is a 'never ending fountain', a 'cistern' with no bottom. But we... none of us... are he. Some of us may, through him, have a bit more to give, but even we, eventually, will be exhausted if we are not replenished.

Think it over, my dear one, and remember always to consider me as I am: your servant, friend, sister and a slave of Christ... to time indefinite.

Peace!

SJ

flower

I love how these newbies jump in on a thread like this and expect people to believe its their first time posting. give me a break Legion.

I agree with you celtic. Logic, all you do is take, take, take, and from what I can see thats not what this community is about. Its about getting AND giving support and understanding and information as it relates to JW and XJW's. Yes there are a lot of things discussed that have nothing to do with jws but that lends to the whole overall feeling of friendship and family.

I think everyone that joins the group is at first a taker. I know I was and still am. But there comes a point where you cant help but offer what you have learned or your supportive comments to someone else. Its just the natural progression of being part of the community. Someone comes along that is where you used to be and you encourage them. Everyone eventually offers something, be it first hand experiences, researched information, or just their honest opinion.

What do you offer to the community Logic? Dont worry I know you wont answer the question as you never answer any questions posted to you. But think about it anyway. What do you offer all those that have sat there trying to encourage and support you through your unique situation? Have you even offered them a simple 'thank you'? Ever thanked anyone who took time out to help you Logic? I've never seen it and I sure have never gotten one. Have you ever even thought about what was being said and tried to do what was suggested? Have you ever looked up any of the information that has been researched on your case and read it and tried to take action? Do you even have the decency to care that people have lives to attend to and that time spent trying to help you could be spent in other things? Doesnt that though move you to want to try to change your attitude for them if not for yourself?

You sit there in chat 8 to 10 hours a day playing Literi or whatever that darn game is. Do you know how much progress could be made during that time if you were instead tackling the problem that you seem to think is insurmountable? You arent talking to anyone anyway so why sit there lurking and listening to our conversation?

I, like Celtic, am almost totally fed up with you, and I STILL defended you in chat today! Because I have till now given you the benefit of the doubt because I have been depressed severely and I know how hard it is to get off your ass and do something to change it. But I dont believe major depression is whats keeping you from doing anything. I think you just like what you are and how you act. I think you are trying to be cute and see how long you can play us for fools.

I asked above what do you give to the community but I guess a better question would be what are you 'taking' from the community? You arent taking the advice and using it. You arent taking the jw related info and support and using it. You arent making xjw friends who understand you as an xjw because you have never even been a jw. What are you doing here if you arent here just to see how much time and attention you can get people to waste on you?

If your whole argument is that we dont understand you then why not join a community of people who DO understand you? Need me to research that one for you too? Or can you tear yourself away from chat long enough to find one yourself? I know your problem and I've found lots of forums for people like you. So go there and be understood and get help.

flower

LDH

First of all let me say Shelby if you are reading this please email me. I can't find your email and now it's locked. I'd like to make a road trip if you know what I mean.

Second of all, I have to dispute what was said about Logi never saying anything nice to anyone. Just the other day we were having a chat via IM and I made an off-the-cuff remark about the extra weight I'm carrying still--as a new mom.

Logical was very quick to tell me that I'm probably "as beautiful as ever" or something to that effect.

Yes, Log can be self absorbed to a higher degree than most of us can, but when it all comes down to it the real truth is Logi needs real friends in the flesh and blood and not just computer buddies. For reasons that most of you are probably not aware of, that's very difficult.

I, too, continue to hope that Logi shows improvement, however slow. When I first came to this forum, Logical would swear a blue streak and crash chat at every opportunity.

Although some of you may not see it, there are others of us who are aware that there is some maturation taking place. It might not be taking place fast enough for us, but hey, it's not our life.

So either ignore Logical or go get some Xanax, because Logical is Logical and isn't going to change for you.

Lisa

LittleToe

Legion:
Your caustic first comment was really endearing.
If you really have been lurking for so long, I suspect you will have seen a few of Logical's more supportive posts, since he is one of the boards more prolific writers.
I suspect you use another handle, but wanted to take the opportunity to lambast Logical.
Hmmm - who might you be?

Logical:
There have been some valid points posted here, Logi.
The bottom line is that everyone has worth - even you.
We love you, but try not to be such a wet blanket.

LOGICAL - Why are you always so sad, fed up &

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