Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Memorial 2014: Wrong date?

by AnnOMaly in

this was meant to have nice inserted pictures and tidy hyperlinks but the forum's being glitchy today.

so unfortunately it's going to be a messy post where you're going to have to exercise your tapping fingers and click on the links to the pics to see what i'm referring to.

sorry about that.. in the article recently studied "do this in remembrance of me" (w13 12/15), there is a box on p. 23 giving the date of this year's memorial and how that date is arrived at.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013926.

notsurewheretogo

They just explained why they choose the wrong date a few Study issues ago...my wife asked me what the study article meant and I must admit it was quite puzzling...

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New Light to be released on the 100th anniversary of 1914

by smiddy in

with further study and meditation , the holy spirit has guided the governing body to the evident reality that the year 1914 was a symbolic enthronement of jesus christ to his heavenly kingship .

jehovahs witnesses worlwide rejoice at this new understanding , empowering them to be even more determined to spread these pearls of truth to those moaning and groaning in this wicked system of things.

rom.8:22. some have wondered , even had doubts about the ever increasing numbers who now seem to be partaking of the wine and emblems at the lords evening meal ( memmorial ) celebration held annually .. we are pleased to announce that this too has been clarified by holy spirit , with study and meditation , and we can now announce that the 144000 is in fact a symbolic number and not to be taken as a literal number as previously thought .. we , the g.b.

notsurewheretogo

I didn't see the word "evidently" in there...thus it's fake!

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Who will run the "earthly organization" after GB is raptured?

by bruh2012 in

i guess the gb feels after they are raptured that their work is done since the new scrolls will be open by yhwh.. oh wait my bad - it will be by the local elders since they said a few wt studies ago that in so many words you better listen to the elders whether it makes sense or not.. if power and the use of the internet after armaggdon will pretty much be dead since those who operate it will be gone-.

notsurewheretogo

Supposedly all JW's in positions of administrative power for the WTBTS are now the Other Sheep and will continue to do so on the other side...

And of course the 144,000...from heaven...will guide them...

CUCKOO!!!!

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WTS governing body changes - how have all those claiming to be anointed been exposed as liars?

by tootired2care in

in juan viejo2s recent thread about district overseer and other changes coming this bit was quite intriguing to me.. the governing body will be expanded to 12 to better match the biblical magic number of apostles, tribes of israel, etc.

that will also reset the 'magic number' to 8 needed to get a majority vote to make a doctrinal change.... one of my friends suggests that "annointed" will become synomous with "appointed.

" if a brother is "appointed" to the governing body, then the logic is that he has automatically been "annointed" by holy spirit and would therefore be considered to be part of the 144k.. .

notsurewheretogo

I heard they tried some members of the Other Sheep on the GB about ten years ago, when they seperated the GB away from the legal entities...and I heard they reported that it "just didn't work"...

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WTS governing body changes - how have all those claiming to be anointed been exposed as liars?

by tootired2care in

in juan viejo2s recent thread about district overseer and other changes coming this bit was quite intriguing to me.. the governing body will be expanded to 12 to better match the biblical magic number of apostles, tribes of israel, etc.

that will also reset the 'magic number' to 8 needed to get a majority vote to make a doctrinal change.... one of my friends suggests that "annointed" will become synomous with "appointed.

" if a brother is "appointed" to the governing body, then the logic is that he has automatically been "annointed" by holy spirit and would therefore be considered to be part of the 144k.. .

notsurewheretogo

Ah I see...I understood that they would be selecting from a pool of JW's who were known to be anointed...

But I see the point...they would need to say however...scripturally...that the GB do decide who is anointed...before they could do this...

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May 2014 Watchtower Study Article Are You Moving Ahead With Jehovahs Organization?

by objectivetruth in

if jehovah resurrects the inhabitants of sodom & gomorrah, to give them a fair chance to life.. he truly is love!.

please see the wt and related articles in the resurrection of sodom & gomorrah : 1879 resurrection confirmed : = yes "let me give you an illustration that will be forcible: the sodomites.

surely if we find their restitution mentioned you will be satisfied.

notsurewheretogo

Cracking thread...thank to the OP for the list of YES and NO points...

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WTS governing body changes - how have all those claiming to be anointed been exposed as liars?

by tootired2care in

in juan viejo2s recent thread about district overseer and other changes coming this bit was quite intriguing to me.. the governing body will be expanded to 12 to better match the biblical magic number of apostles, tribes of israel, etc.

that will also reset the 'magic number' to 8 needed to get a majority vote to make a doctrinal change.... one of my friends suggests that "annointed" will become synomous with "appointed.

" if a brother is "appointed" to the governing body, then the logic is that he has automatically been "annointed" by holy spirit and would therefore be considered to be part of the 144k.. .

notsurewheretogo

Not sure I get the reasoning here...

I understand that if they expand the GB it means those who come on board must be anointed thus in esscence the GB are "appointing" but for this to have the impact of a major change it would mean that they would have to say only the GB are anointed and I can't see them do that.

The GB can add new members from a pool of currently known anointed partakers...but anointed at the moment are self-appointed (anointed)...that wouldn't change...

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There are some questions I have had about the JWs view "post-Armaggeddon"

by booker-t in

i have always wondered how jws believe about "post-armaggeddon" earth.

question#1 how will jws survivors bury all of the dead bodies.

with about 4 billion people on earth today how can 8 million jw(1/2 of them children and babies) bury all of those dead bodies?

notsurewheretogo

I thought they point to the scripture that talks about the dead will be a feast for the birds thus every dead body after the Big A will be bird food...

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I don't believe the JWs will ever change and say the 144,000 is "symbolic"

by booker-t in

it will never happen.

because that will definitely be the "final nail" in their coffin.

jws will not stand for it any longer.

notsurewheretogo

The fact that parents will die rather than take blood or let their child die shows you what the power of the organisation has over people...

The JW's who are leaving are the ones that examine everything whilst those who stay in are the ones who let the society think for them...thus it seems the majority will accept any change the society make...

The GB know they have this power...in times gone by the GB tried to give evidence and proof for their changes but now they don't bother as they know the majority just accept "they are the Faithful and Discreet Slave Class" and just lap it up...the fact they said "evidently what Jesus meant was an overlapping generation"..."evidently"? Where is the evidence? They don'y need it...

So...I can see major changes to 144,000 and 1914 coming...and it will not make one difference to most of those who don't bother to check what they believe...

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Will the GB be alive at armageddon(tm)?

by punkofnice in

ok. i don't believe that the watchtower(r) armageddon(tm) is anything but fantasy.. i do recall speculation about how the 'anointed(tm)' might all be dead before the big 'a' or that some will survive through it and help the r&f.

i heard brothers speculating that after the big 'a' the 'anointed(tm)' would be spirited away to heaven.. i wonder what they think will happen to the gb on, before or after the big 'a' now?.

notsurewheretogo

Yup the stance is now:

Some of the anointed generation who overlapped the anointed generation who saw and understood 1914 will still be alive when the GT starts BUT THEN all will be heaven before The Big A...