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  NEW LIGHT FROM SLO CIRCUIT OVERSEER "Warning, Blood on Doorposts", "The Couple who Missed One Meeting Died With Their Kids, Don't Miss Any!

  by Trailer Park Pioneer in

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  sorry, i messed up before i could put the right title on this new light from our circuit overseer, his visit show's a great desperation in the organization's mindset, adding more anxiety and guilt to jws who already feel they don't measure up!.

  hi, i attended the circuit overseers visit and got really angry because our c.o.

  gave information coming from the governing body's chief apologists regarding "meeting attendance" and "the couple who missed one meeting and lost their entire family because they did not get the "411" when armageddon was coming!

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  So serve for 20 years faithfully...miss a meeting...dead.

  Never go to a meeting...never heard of Jehoover/Jebus and go to one meeting...live forever.

  
  

  This god and this religion sounds great, can I learn more please?  </END OF SARCASM>
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  2014 Statistics and Graphs for USA, UK and Australia

  by jwfacts in

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  2. beliefs

  i have done a breakdown for the usa, since the majority on this forum are american, along with the uk and australia.

  us growth has slowed, but still moving along, but uk and australia have are at a virtual standstill, and in fact decreasing against population growth.. .

  jehovah's witness publisher statistics - united states.

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  I'm in the UK and have been out 3 years but in that 3 years most congs around about me in like a 300 mile radius all have Polish meetings...the increase of the UK has def been that source.
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  Will the GB use the on going conflict with Muslim extremists as a sign of the end being near?

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  2. friends

  i haven't read over much of the recent articles in the last decade from the wt.

  i wonder if they will mention muslim extremists and use that fear as a control mechanism on their members.

  i have a feeling they will resist mentioning islam specifically.

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  99% of the world has no idea who JW's are and I'm sure ISIS or the Taliban are not interested in the JW's even if they did mention Islam.
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  Question related to the digestive tract of carnivores

  by geevee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was raised as a jw from about the age of 2, my parents were baptized when i was 5 years old.. i always liked the thought in the song about a young boy leading all of these once viscous animals, that are now tame.... in some of the reading i have done, the digestive tracts of carnivores..meat eaters has a highly acidic stomach, with a short small intestine and a short large intestine [bowel].

  a lot of apes are frugivores [fruit eaters] less acid, long small intestine and longer bowel.

  the question: did god recreate these animals [carnivores] and change their digestive tracts after the noachian flood so that they could eat meat [other creatures] as the jw's believe that these animals only ate straw [herbivores] before the flood and that he will restore their original herbivore digestive tract after armageddon?.

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  Not to mention that we as humans require a balanced diet that includes some meats, or seafood etc... (Or at least vitamin supplements to replace these for those that choose to be vegetarian)

  Also, human teeth....there are teeth that specifically assist in chewing meats

  
  

  What????  What utter tripe...I'm a vegan and eat a balanced diet with no meat or dairy nor any processed foods and I don't need any vitamins or supplements.

  
  

  The only benefit you get from eating meat is all the things that the animal has eaten itself so just skip the middle part and eat what the animal ate...fruit and veg!

  
  

  A 100% plant-based diet is widely recognised as one of the most healthiest diets around.

  
  

  Take a look at the RAVE diet for further research.
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  January 14, 2015 ABC recording of Conti/WT case

  by Gayle in

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  2. child-abuse

  i would really like be able to hear/see the "oral arguments" of this case!

  does anyone know how we may be able to access this?

  case #a136641.

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  And the problem with this is ABC, not being exdubs like us, won't know what to look out for...there could be snippets of something important that they miss because they either do not understand the terminology of witness language or they think it is not important.
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  CO michele sinapi

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  does anyone remember an old co from the 1970's by the name of michele sinapi?

  i believe he was from montreal

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  I remember giving a talk about the Big A and one of the elders wives, in her 80's and in poor health came up to me at the end and thanked me as she said she hopes to see the end before she died...she died a few years ago and of course she never saw the end...since it will not come.

  But she was an old timer, her hubby was one of the first elders/cong servants in the UK!!!  They were old skool...

  So this thread reminds me of her...these poor folk who serve their whole life believing the end is so close...I'm just a bit happy to have got free when I did.
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  Jehovah's Witness on BBC's Mastermind

  by TableForOne in

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  his chosen subject is the history and teachings of jehovah's witnesses.. should be easy for him, right?.

  test yourself, and see how many questions you think you would get right.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk96h31hrv4&list=uu3dufbynezv_mquvd1-hrfa.

  tf1.

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  That was very good!!!!
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  How do you overcome this JW excuse?

  by EdenOne in

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  during one of those meetings that took place before my jc, one of the elders, who was a good friend of mine back then and used to come up with a few outlandish personal views about some teachings, attempted to counter one of my arguments like this:.

  eden - "well, if the truth doesn't change, why is it that what we teach as 'truth' has changed over the years (several examples given)?

  how can we dogmatically claim at any given moment that we have 'the truth' if our teachings keep changing?".

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  Generation.

  Literally.

  Anointed disciples.

  The people around about.

  Now overlapping.

  So none of that has changed but just "perspective"?

  I think people need to stop using the word "logic" when talking about this elders statement because there is none.
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  Emblem Takers Mentally Unstable?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  onthewayout wrote: of course, for quite awhile (and probably still), congregations have been viewing any relatively young (maybe under 50 or even 60) partakers as mentally unstable and watchtower ignores such people anyway and says they must listen to the elders.

  is this correct?

  ever since the emblem-takers were given emeritus status as members of the faithful and discreet slave, have they been relegated to standard membership?

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  How old is the new GB member Mark Sanderson?

  48 ain't he?

  So....mentally unstable?
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  Did you know about the organ transplant ban when you were a believer?

  by Apognophos in

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  2. beliefs

  back when i was learning ttatt, i was shocked to read on jwfacts about the organ transplant ban from 1967 to 1980. this was a large piece of evidence for me that the society could not be god's organization.

  growing up as an earnest witness, and living near the headquarters, i knew a lot of the organization's embarrassing history, and it didn't faze me, but i'd never heard of this ban before, and it shocked me.

  it's gotten me wondering why no one i know ever talks about it, when it must have affected many witnesses during that time (or were they getting transplants on the sly?

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  Was very unaware of this when I was in...as is my still-in wife.

  So I painted her a picture.

  The year is 1979 and we have a child who becomes critically ill to the point that they need an organ transplant to live. We read the society's doctrine that an organ transplant is a disfellowshipping practice due to the fact that the body "consumes" the donated organ in an act of cannablism and that a personality transplant may occur.

  So we want our child to be faithful and the child eventually dies.

  Fast forward two years to 1981 and our second child is critically ill, again let us say due to a genetic defect it too needs an organ transplant to live.

  We look up the society's guidelines only now to see it is a conscience matter, we choose to get the organ transplant and the child lives.

  According to the society both children have been faifthul to the "truth" yet one lived, one dies.

  Seriously, on what planet would a god ever act in this manner?

  The above story that I painted to my still-in wife has her deeply troubled.

  And the question begs, who got it wrong in 1969? Did Jehovah get it wrong to say it was cannabilism? Or that Personality Transplant is fact? Did Jehovah correct himself in 1980?

  Because if he did then I want nothing to do with a god like that.

  Or is it all just men's ideas? Is it a case that the GB make these doctrines based on what they think the scriptures say?

  If that is the case and Jehovah has to correct them why did it take 11 years? And if that is indeed the case how can the GB expect me to blindly follow, to listen, obey and be blessed if they have to be corrected on life changing doctrines?

  How can the GB expect me to follow this statement: "All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not." IF they get it wrong.

  Either way, if Jehovah got it wrong or the men got it wrong is irrelevant...because whatever the answer you would have nothing to do with either of them.