if you have been seeing the world news, you probably aware that zelensky launch a drown attack on putin and almost killed him.
putin lost it and hit ukraine with the largest drone and missile attack of war so far, killing not only soldiers by many civilians.
even trump has said putin has changed.
Consensus?
"The consensus is that if Putin had been killed, Russia would have launched Nuclear Bombs and wiped Ukraine. Then Europe would have launched Nukes at Russia,"
Where are your sources for that? Because it is equally plausible Russia abandon the war post Putin.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
@vienne
I lasted about two minutes before
Didn't think it was that exciting being honest
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
the jws haven't been to my door for a while, but i don't doubt that they'll turn up eventually*.
(i saw easter eggs in the supermarket yesterday, so "memorial" season is fast approaching 🙄).
what's a good question to ask, to get the ball rolling?.
What I ask is: "How do you reconcile the fact you are told to be obedient to the faithful slave in all they say and even if in the future they say things that seem strange from a human standpoint and that they can be wrong in doctrine and policy"?
See them squirm with that one.
what could be "an instruction not sound by a human standpoint"?.
i'm going by dissolving their legal entities...any guesses?.
How do you square the two statements below? How can you trust the direction "when it appears sound or not from a human standpoint" when the very same organisation advises it can "be wrong with doctrine and policy"?
jehovah’s witnesses boast that theirs is a “spirit-directed organization”.. see w88 3/1 pp.
10-17 (my life in jehovah’s spirit-directed organization).
they believe that their deceased founder, charles taze russell (who faced legal action by his wife for inappropriate behavior in his maids bedroom), is directing the modern-day work of jehovah’s witnesses.. after the founder, c t russell died, it was stated that he was still directing the work from heaven.. "though pastor russell has passed beyond the veil, he is still managing every feature of the harvest work.
No questions.
Except they have moved on. They now advise they are not inspired or directed and can be wrong.
2017 Watchtower (February)
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
He's a grifter. He is finished. Just needs to realise it and fuck off and get a real job.
i was listening to a lunchtime call in radio show about jws and the personal experiences of being disfellowshiped, and a former elder called in saying he was disfellowshiped for asking about jws and their involvement in the un in the 1990s ,and he just said look it up.. thinking that it was a made up lie ,so i looked it up and it was true even a letter confirming it from the un itself and that led me here and to jwfacts and further research into the history and teachings of jw and walked out the door about 5 years ago.
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607 BCE is not the destruction of Jerusalem. Once I researched it and fully debunked the nonsense the WT believes the whole house of cards falls down.
607 not true...1914 not true...1919 not true...FDS appointed is now just their own interpretation and therefore no "god" is directing the GB and everything they say is not directed or inspired...something they now admit.
607 being wrong was the key for me.
if you have not seen this already it is well worth a watch.. brutally traumatic and captures very well one of the biggest issues in this cult.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndapjdzj0ss.
If you have not seen this already it is well worth a watch.
Brutally traumatic and captures very well one of the biggest issues in this cult.
