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  Don't drink and post.

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  please don't drink and post.burp.... i'm starting a n..ew campaign...dont burp..chugg... ....drink ..........and...burp splutter..p.... oh sod it.. please ...give..burp ..suppo....burp ....rt

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  Tell Old School Friends That You've Left?

  by Englishman in

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  some of the uk national newspapers have been referring to the web-site at http://friendsreunited.co.uk/, where thousands and thousands of brits have been getting back in touch with old school friends.. just out of curiosity i decided to take a peek.

  well, i was stunned.

  many long-forgotten class-mates had my mind leaping back to the early 60s, particularly when they mentioned the weird nicknames that we had given to our teachers.. the french master, froggy fleuriot, mousy mclaughlan with his rats teeth, bummer burrell well, i will leave that one to your imagination.

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  Flipping hell E man.
  I cant believe it.Thanks for post this as I've never heard of it.
  I've just seen listed friends of mind i havent seen for years.
  I can't wait to contact some.
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  Don't drink and post.

  by sleepy in

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  please don't drink and post.burp.... i'm starting a n..ew campaign...dont burp..chugg... ....drink ..........and...burp splutter..p.... oh sod it.. please ...give..burp ..suppo....burp ....rt

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  Please don't drink and post.Burp...

  I'm starting a n..ew campaign...dont burp..chugg..

  ....drink ..........and...burp splutter..p...

  oh sod it.

  Please ...give..burp ..suppo....burp ....rt
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  Is praying good for you?

  by sleepy in

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  when in the "truth" most of us used to pray.. i used to pray for help in doing things , say give a talk , and would ask for holy spirit .i felt i needed it to give a talk well.. but was it all just a placebo effect.. did the belief that i was getting help cause me to become more confident because i though god was helping me?.

  as time went on in the truth i felt as if prayer was just talking to your self.in fact i found it embarissing to give prayers in public as i felt silly talking to an invisible creature.. but in the night i would prayer and maybe go over the days events , think about new things coming up , other people and life in general.. is this benifical to a person?.

  in doing this we are meditating on events we would not otherwise think deaply about , this can help us think of solutions to problems or put things in perspective.. how often would we review events if we didnt pray.. now i doubt that we are conversing with god , but i think to "pray" or go over events in your mind maybe once a day or whatever, is good for your well being and can help you with lifes problems.. although not getting help from another creature we as humans need to meditate in order to make good decisions.. the placebo effect doesn't seem to work anymore and i rely on myself and my experience to help me do difficult tasks.. but when something really big comes up i admit i still say a little prayer.

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  Thanks for your comments.

  I was really trying to make the point that praying is a form of meditation.
  You don't need to pray as such just go over points in your mind.
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  Are we all insane?

  by sleepy in

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  are we all insane?.

  no not for leaving the witnesses , but are humans insane in general?.

  well when a witness i believed there was a certain mental level that humans were supposed to be at , perfect.. they had a potential that they were designed to achieve.. a standard at which you could be considered fully operational.. but is there such a thing?.

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  There is evidence of humans living on this earth streaching back thousands of years.

  Think about this as well with autistic people who are highly skilled at a particular task there is no gradual change in performance.
  Their "defect" causes a jump in performance so there are better than normal.
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  The Un-born

  by seedy3 in

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  i have a question.

  according to the beliefs of the jw's do the unborn babies take part in the resurection after the "great day"??

  i need to have some reference in the wt literature.

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  This is the latest refrence I could find.

  *** w84 3/15 30-1 Questions From Readers ***
  Questions From Readers
  õ My friend had a miscarriage. As a woman I sympathize with her, but would it be proper to encourage her to hope in a resurrection?
  You certainly can do much good by giving her comfort and loving Christian help. But the Bible does not provide a basis to expect a resurrection of the embryo. Consider why:
  When a woman conceives, there is just one cell, a fertilized egg. Normally, over a period of nine months that cell divides and implants in her uterus, the embryo develops, and finally a child is born. A miscarriage cuts short this natural process, ending the life that has begun and that should grow into a separate human. If an abortion is performed, it conflicts with the sanctity of life and with God’s command against murder.—Exodus 20:13; 21:22, 23; Numbers 35:16-18; 1 Peter 4:15.
  Our Life-Giver is aware of a life growing in the uterus, as we can see from what the Bible says about Jesse’s wife carrying the embryo that developed and that was born and named David. (Psalm 139:13-16; compare Job 31:15.) What, though, about the possibility of a resurrection in instances of miscarriage or stillbirth?
  The Bible acknowledges that a fetus or an embryo can die. This results in spontaneous abortion, or miscarriage, or in a stillbirth.—Genesis 31:38; Exodus 23:26; 2 Kings 2:19-21; Job 21:10; Psalm 58:8; 144:14.
  Job mentioned various ways in which a miscarriage can occur, any of which he felt would have been better for him than the suffering he was experiencing. He said that he might have been “a hidden miscarriage,” someone who “should not come to be, like children that have seen no light.” (Job 3:16) This could refer to a woman’s miscarrying even before she realized that she was pregnant and while the embryo was not viable. The Body Machine states: “Many ova [fertilized eggs] do not develop normally, a greater number in fact than those which do. About ten per cent fail to implant and of those that do about half are aborted spontaneously, usually without the mother knowing.”
  Job also said that if ‘the doors of his mother’s belly had been closed, he would have been concealed from trouble.’ So he would have escaped suffering if he had ‘proceeded to die from the womb’ or “in the womb.” (Job 3:10, 11, New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures; Rotherham) Serious defects in the embryo or fetus sometimes cause this. Or it may result from abnormalities in the mother’s reproductive organs; deficiencies of vitamins, hormones or oxygen; or maternal disease.
  In his agony Job felt that such possibilities would have been better for him. Yet his mother would have been saddened, even as are women today when inherited imperfection results in miscarriage or stillbirth. In mentioning those possibilities, Job did not say that he would have been in line for a resurrection anyway. The benefit, as he saw it, was that he would have been concealed from trouble or have been undisturbed.
  Job added another possibility: “Why did I not come forth from the belly itself and then expire?” (Job 3:11) If, as sometimes occurs, Job had been born and soon thereafter died, maybe even before having been suckled, what might his future prospects be? He did not in the context discuss that. But later he showed that if, after having lived as a human, he had died and gone to Sheol, God likely would ‘set a time limit and remember him.’ Our Life-Giver ‘would call and Job himself would answer.’ Yes, Jehovah God could bring Job back to life, resurrect him.—Job 14:13-15.
  This accords with our knowledge of resurrection in Biblical examples. Those who were resurrected evidently were brought back to life as the individuals they had been at death. That is, children who died were resurrected as children, adults as adults. (2 Kings 4:17-20, 32-37; Luke 7:12-15; 8:40-42, 49-55; John 11:38-44) Would it be reasonable to think that if a “hidden miscarriage” had occurred in Job’s case, in the New Order that microscopic embryo would be restored to his mother’s womb to continue a pregnancy of which she might have been unaware? That does not conform to what the Bible shows about the resurrection, which always involved persons who had been born and existed as separate individuals before God.—John 5:28, 29; Acts 24:15.
  But what if the embryo was more developed, had become a fetus or even was close to full term? There are many possible situations. However, there is no point in speculating, for there are countless sad consequences of imperfection suffered today. In the restored Paradise our loving heavenly Father will reverse man’s sinful condition and bring marvelous blessings. Many people will be resurrected. The decision as to how the resurrection will be carried out, and to what extent, rests with Jehovah and Jesus. We can be sure that the decision will reflect Jehovah’s perfect wisdom and justice.
  Elihu assured Job: “Far be it from the true God to act wickedly, and the Almighty to act unjustly! For according to the way earthling man acts he will reward him . . . Yes, for a fact, God himself does not act wickedly.” (Job 34:10-12) All of us, including couples who have had the very sad experience of a miscarriage or stillbirth, can take comfort in knowing that “good and upright is Jehovah
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  Drama's and JW acting skills

  by sleepy in

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  it nice to be entertained by a good tv programme or film.but there is some terrible rubbish produced also.. but nothing can prepare a person for the atrocity that is the convention drama!.

  it would first be hyped up by the chair man at the begining of the assembley as a highlight to be looked forward to.often it was a high- light for very different reasons.. first of all you need to know that in britian they use the american duved vioces in the drama.. now theres nothing wrong with american voices , i'm sure you all sound lovley , but this is britian we do not have american accents.. we do not use all of the same words.

  and unfortunatly this is american acting at its worst.. the result is an embarassing soap opera style dialogue that at my local convetion was heared all over the city centre , as our assembly was in a open air sports stadium right in the middle of town.. yes i can hear it in my head now the corny voices of moses , pharoh , jesabel.i can see the arms of the actors waving franticly in the air the gross over gesturing and parading of the cast.. and the names "randy , do-you-not-know gawd (hands in the air)hates.

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  It nice to be entertained by a good TV programme or film.But there is some terrible rubbish produced also.
  But nothing can prepare a person for the atrocity that is the convention DRAMA!

  It would first be hyped up by the chair man at the begining of the assembley as a highlight to be looked forward to.Often it was a high- light for very different reasons.

  First of all you need to know that in Britian they use the american duved vioces in the drama.
  Now theres nothing wrong with american voices , I'm sure you all sound lovley , but this is Britian we do not have american accents.
  We do not use all of the same words. And unfortunatly this is american acting at its worst.

  The result is an embarassing soap opera style dialogue that at my local convetion was heared all over the city centre , as our assembly was in a open air sports stadium right in the middle of town.
  Yes I can hear it in my head now The corny voices of moses , pharoh , Jesabel.I can see the arms of the actors waving franticly in the air the gross over gesturing and parading of the cast.

  And the names "Randy , do-you-not-know gawd (hands in the air)hates
  imorality?"
  Do they not know what randy means in Britian?

  The cheap set made out of borrowed furniture.Andthe stick on beards of the men.How ridiculas you can not grow a beard as a witness so you have to have a stick on one in the drama.

  All in all the Drama was the worst part of the assembly.I cannot imagine any new person coming and being impressed by one.
  
  What were you dramas like?
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  Is praying good for you?

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when in the "truth" most of us used to pray.. i used to pray for help in doing things , say give a talk , and would ask for holy spirit .i felt i needed it to give a talk well.. but was it all just a placebo effect.. did the belief that i was getting help cause me to become more confident because i though god was helping me?.

  as time went on in the truth i felt as if prayer was just talking to your self.in fact i found it embarissing to give prayers in public as i felt silly talking to an invisible creature.. but in the night i would prayer and maybe go over the days events , think about new things coming up , other people and life in general.. is this benifical to a person?.

  in doing this we are meditating on events we would not otherwise think deaply about , this can help us think of solutions to problems or put things in perspective.. how often would we review events if we didnt pray.. now i doubt that we are conversing with god , but i think to "pray" or go over events in your mind maybe once a day or whatever, is good for your well being and can help you with lifes problems.. although not getting help from another creature we as humans need to meditate in order to make good decisions.. the placebo effect doesn't seem to work anymore and i rely on myself and my experience to help me do difficult tasks.. but when something really big comes up i admit i still say a little prayer.

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  When in the "truth" most of us used to pray.
  I used to pray for help in doing things , say give a talk , and would ask for holy spirit .I felt I needed it to give a talk well.
  But was it all just a placebo effect.
  Did the belief that I was getting help cause me to become more confident because I though God was helping me?

  As time went on in the truth I felt as If prayer was just talking to your self.In fact I found it embarissing to give prayers in public as I felt silly talking to an invisible creature.
  But in the night I would prayer and maybe go over the days events , think about new things coming up , other people and life in general.
  Is this benifical to a person?
  I believe so . In doing this we are meditating on events we would not otherwise think deaply about , this can help us think of solutions to problems or put things in perspective.
  How often would we review events if we didnt pray.
  Now I doubt that we are conversing with God , but I think to "pray" or go over events in your mind maybe once a day or whatever, is good for your well being and can help you with lifes problems.
  Although not getting help from another creature we as humans need to meditate in order to make good decisions.
  The placebo effect doesn't seem to work anymore and I rely on myself and my experience to help me do difficult tasks.
  But when something really big comes up I admit I still say a little prayer.
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  Are we all insane?

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are we all insane?.

  no not for leaving the witnesses , but are humans insane in general?.

  well when a witness i believed there was a certain mental level that humans were supposed to be at , perfect.. they had a potential that they were designed to achieve.. a standard at which you could be considered fully operational.. but is there such a thing?.

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  Gumby

  "Autistic people are nearest a genius.
  Would you say they are normal?"

  This is a point that should make creationists think.Even though not all autistic people have great talents some do.
  This is the result of what we would call a defect.
  This defect can cause the brain to have special skills.
  How do we know our current state of intelligense was not a "defect" of ealier humans?
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  Are we all insane?

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are we all insane?.

  no not for leaving the witnesses , but are humans insane in general?.

  well when a witness i believed there was a certain mental level that humans were supposed to be at , perfect.. they had a potential that they were designed to achieve.. a standard at which you could be considered fully operational.. but is there such a thing?.

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  Bathory

  " Quantum mechanics tells us that the observer effects the observed. That it is impossible to take a “measurement” without effecting the thing measured "

  Very interseting application but from my understanding it only applies to the measurement of the velocity and position of a subatomic particle, any application by extension has no scientific basis and is apparently not within the scope of the law, but bloody interesting thought !!!

  Actually it aplies to all quantum effects.
  A quantum object has no definate value untill measured.
  And then it can take a number of states according to what you are measuring for.

  Of course when we come to the classical world I.e above quatum these effects seam to disappear, or even out.
  But ultimately all classical effects are results of quatum effects.
  Even on a classical level the measurer effecting the measurment happens, although in everyday life you'd hardly notice .
  For instance a ruler will change in lenght according to who is holding it and were it is due to temperture differences.( these effects being to small to matter to us)
  There is an absloute value for lenghts at a given tempreture in labs around the world we you could measure against.
  Do these kind of things effect our brains and how we see the world I don't know.