Reborn2002 "So basically, it doesn't happen"Your logic is just so strong.
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28Near death experiences,what do they mean?
by sleepy innear death experiences,what do they mean?
anyway there was a resent disscusion of this phenonema on the telly.now i'm not concerning myself here with is there life after death but with this point, when people have near death experiences they are measured to be brain dead, no activity can be measured in the brain, yet many report seeing what was happening to them or voices and visions.if this is true then consciousness is continuing while the brain is inactive.this is not sleep , where the brain is active , but the brain is to all intents and purposes dead.
if, and i say if this is true, then consciousness is not solely linked to brain activity.that would have major implecations as to the nature of consciousness.where exactly doeas our consciousness reside?is the brain just a means for it to recieve information and in fact consciousness does not exist there but works throught it instead.this does not have to mean we have an imortal soul etc, but for example,maybe hidden dimentions in space could be the source of our consciousness,or someting else, not just the world we are aware of.
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Don't buy CD's from supermarkets.Please.
by sleepy in.
for music lovers everywhere.. don't buy cd's from supermarkets.please.thats an order!.
there just been a report in britian that supermarkets are increasing their share of the recorded music market by selling cheap cd's.. why is this bad news?surly if you can get a cd from tescos for a tenner instead of 15 quid this is good?noooooooooooooooooo.. i say that again , no.. lets look at it.supermarkets can sell cd's and other items cheap because they make a profit on the other goods you buy.they use the offer of cheap cd's to entice you into their store.they only sell chart cd's otherwise they will make a loss on more obscure music which won't sell in bulk.. if you love music and wish to buy music or listen to good new music in the years to come, you are shooting yourself in the foot if you buy your music from supermarkets at a lower price.it is a false ecomony.this is why.when you hear a piece of music you like in a few years time which is not chart music and go to you local independant or specialist music store you will see a big sign on the door ,closed.they will have shut down because lack of sales when all their customers went to the cheapo market ment they could no longer survive.. they had to charge more for music becausea.it was the only thing they sellb.they stocked all types of music and would not make money on some bands and would make up for it with more popular bands.cthey could get the music you wanted on special order if they didn't have what you were looking ford.they had knowledge of music and bands which was readily available to you if needed.and a good few other things.. you are not saving anything if you buy cheap.if you like music you need to support the peole who want to supply it,and offer quality, which in the case of music includes choice, not just marketed corporate crap, not those in it for a quick buck.they need to charge more but have a far greater range of product, one which a supermarket will never have,ever.. you have been warned.
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All the aurgumants have missed the point.
All these I want it cheaper arguments , are just showing the greed of YOU and shortsightedness.
The Tesco point was not that they cover the extra Fiver on other goods but that they do not need to make as much on CD's because they sell other goods.
At the end of the day YOU lose out if in the future only supermarkets sell CD's and the choice is very small.
Small businesses don't have a right to survive, and I certainly won't waste my money propping up someone else's uncompetitive business.
This is so flawed it's unbelieveable.The independant is not uncompetative but has it business taken over by someone who doesn't need to make a profit on that good and uses it to get people in store to buy other things.This is not competative but monopolising the exact OPPOSITE.
"His range of products makes his business viable. If he's selling products that aren't available elsewhere, then he's providing a useful service. If he's selling something I can get cheaper elsewhere, then that is NOT better value. "
You CARNT get it cheaper else where as tesco etc. only sell CHART CD's.So this point is crap.
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Don't buy CD's from supermarkets.Please.
by sleepy in.
for music lovers everywhere.. don't buy cd's from supermarkets.please.thats an order!.
there just been a report in britian that supermarkets are increasing their share of the recorded music market by selling cheap cd's.. why is this bad news?surly if you can get a cd from tescos for a tenner instead of 15 quid this is good?noooooooooooooooooo.. i say that again , no.. lets look at it.supermarkets can sell cd's and other items cheap because they make a profit on the other goods you buy.they use the offer of cheap cd's to entice you into their store.they only sell chart cd's otherwise they will make a loss on more obscure music which won't sell in bulk.. if you love music and wish to buy music or listen to good new music in the years to come, you are shooting yourself in the foot if you buy your music from supermarkets at a lower price.it is a false ecomony.this is why.when you hear a piece of music you like in a few years time which is not chart music and go to you local independant or specialist music store you will see a big sign on the door ,closed.they will have shut down because lack of sales when all their customers went to the cheapo market ment they could no longer survive.. they had to charge more for music becausea.it was the only thing they sellb.they stocked all types of music and would not make money on some bands and would make up for it with more popular bands.cthey could get the music you wanted on special order if they didn't have what you were looking ford.they had knowledge of music and bands which was readily available to you if needed.and a good few other things.. you are not saving anything if you buy cheap.if you like music you need to support the peole who want to supply it,and offer quality, which in the case of music includes choice, not just marketed corporate crap, not those in it for a quick buck.they need to charge more but have a far greater range of product, one which a supermarket will never have,ever.. you have been warned.
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"As consumers, the best things for ourselves and for the economy is to buy the best goods available at the cheapest price possible."
The important part is best goods.What qualifies as best goods?Sometimes it is quality , sometimes choice.If you buy something inferer because it is cheaper is that value for money?
If you buy something cheaper and it causes you to lose choice is that value for money?
Small business do deserve to survive for many reasons , most of all the greater quality they often offer, along with personnal service.
I wonder how many here would try to buy something as cheap as possible and then if they sell try to get as much as they can, but when someone else offers them something for sale that seams higher than you think it should be, you think they are ripping you off?
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Don't buy CD's from supermarkets.Please.
by sleepy in.
for music lovers everywhere.. don't buy cd's from supermarkets.please.thats an order!.
there just been a report in britian that supermarkets are increasing their share of the recorded music market by selling cheap cd's.. why is this bad news?surly if you can get a cd from tescos for a tenner instead of 15 quid this is good?noooooooooooooooooo.. i say that again , no.. lets look at it.supermarkets can sell cd's and other items cheap because they make a profit on the other goods you buy.they use the offer of cheap cd's to entice you into their store.they only sell chart cd's otherwise they will make a loss on more obscure music which won't sell in bulk.. if you love music and wish to buy music or listen to good new music in the years to come, you are shooting yourself in the foot if you buy your music from supermarkets at a lower price.it is a false ecomony.this is why.when you hear a piece of music you like in a few years time which is not chart music and go to you local independant or specialist music store you will see a big sign on the door ,closed.they will have shut down because lack of sales when all their customers went to the cheapo market ment they could no longer survive.. they had to charge more for music becausea.it was the only thing they sellb.they stocked all types of music and would not make money on some bands and would make up for it with more popular bands.cthey could get the music you wanted on special order if they didn't have what you were looking ford.they had knowledge of music and bands which was readily available to you if needed.and a good few other things.. you are not saving anything if you buy cheap.if you like music you need to support the peole who want to supply it,and offer quality, which in the case of music includes choice, not just marketed corporate crap, not those in it for a quick buck.they need to charge more but have a far greater range of product, one which a supermarket will never have,ever.. you have been warned.
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Lets restate this again.I am talking about this, if you like music and you want choice of good bands to continue then this will apply.If you buy CD's from a supermarket because they are cheaper and your local independants store (if you have any) goes out of business because of it ,then you will no longer be able to buy the music you want , therefore it follows that buying cheap was a FALSE economy.
Can anyone show me why this is wrong?
Funcky D "CDs are overpriced. Why should we allow ourselves to be ripped off to perpetuate a rip-off industry? A CD from Tesco's is exactly the same as a CD from an over-priced independent store."
This is a misunderstanding of the issue.
Something is not overpriced because it is more expensive than another good.Tesco's subsadize their CD sales and make up on the price of your grocceries.You actually pay the same.They only stock chart CD and therefore are garenteed sales.An independant CD store need to make more money on a CD than tesco as he doesn't make his money on grocceries, and has higher overheads.He also offers a far far bigger range of product.His range of product actually make his CD's BETTER value, as when you buy them you are garenteing future choice for YOURSELF.If you buy cheap and independants go out off business then you are killing the wide advaiability of music to YOURSELF.
Just because Tescos is cheaper does NOT mean the independant shop is RIPPING you OFF.He has different costs to cover.
Cd's are not that expensive anyway, even if they could be a few pounds cheaper.
All I'm saying is that our desire for cheapness may cost in the future if we cause small shops with good choice to close.
Why is this wrong?
Edited by - sleepy on 9 September 2002 11:33:51
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The BORG comes is used instead of ORG as in the ORGANISATION or the watchtower bible and tract society.
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Near death experiences,what do they mean?
by sleepy innear death experiences,what do they mean?
anyway there was a resent disscusion of this phenonema on the telly.now i'm not concerning myself here with is there life after death but with this point, when people have near death experiences they are measured to be brain dead, no activity can be measured in the brain, yet many report seeing what was happening to them or voices and visions.if this is true then consciousness is continuing while the brain is inactive.this is not sleep , where the brain is active , but the brain is to all intents and purposes dead.
if, and i say if this is true, then consciousness is not solely linked to brain activity.that would have major implecations as to the nature of consciousness.where exactly doeas our consciousness reside?is the brain just a means for it to recieve information and in fact consciousness does not exist there but works throught it instead.this does not have to mean we have an imortal soul etc, but for example,maybe hidden dimentions in space could be the source of our consciousness,or someting else, not just the world we are aware of.
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sleepy
The point I am focusing on is those who were rejestered as BRIAN DEAD , with no measurable activity in the brain, yet still reported seeing or hearing things.Actually death is not as easy to qualify I you might think, is it when your heart stops, your brain, some have come back from having both.
I want to know how this experiences touch on what consciousness is, not about whether people are dead or not.
Edited by - sleepy on 9 September 2002 8:42:2
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does anyone have the answer?
by ness21 ini was brought up in "the truth", i have the odd bible study now and again, funny enough the last time was a week after 9/11, as im still subconsciously in fear of armageddon, but i haven fundamental problems with some of their teaching, hence my joy at finding this site.
i also used to think armageddon was coming at the sight of the smallest storm.
has anybody found what they think is "the truth" since coming away?.
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Hi ness21 " has anybody found what they think is "the truth" since coming away?"
The whole concept of there being "the truth" is a witness related one.You can look for truth's, what is factualy true or false , but as to there being a truth, that probably doesn't exist.Also you don't need anything to relace watchtower teaching with, you may just jump out of the fire into the frying pan.
Do your research , which will help you see how flawed the teachings you were brought up with are.You have nothing to fear from the make believe armageddon.
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Near death experiences,what do they mean?
by sleepy innear death experiences,what do they mean?
anyway there was a resent disscusion of this phenonema on the telly.now i'm not concerning myself here with is there life after death but with this point, when people have near death experiences they are measured to be brain dead, no activity can be measured in the brain, yet many report seeing what was happening to them or voices and visions.if this is true then consciousness is continuing while the brain is inactive.this is not sleep , where the brain is active , but the brain is to all intents and purposes dead.
if, and i say if this is true, then consciousness is not solely linked to brain activity.that would have major implecations as to the nature of consciousness.where exactly doeas our consciousness reside?is the brain just a means for it to recieve information and in fact consciousness does not exist there but works throught it instead.this does not have to mean we have an imortal soul etc, but for example,maybe hidden dimentions in space could be the source of our consciousness,or someting else, not just the world we are aware of.
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Near death experiences,what do they mean?
Anyone here had one, what was it like?
Anyway there was a resent disscusion of this phenonema on the telly.Now I'm not concerning myself here with is there life after death but with this point, when people have near death experiences they are measured to be brain dead, no activity can be measured in the brain, yet many report seeing what was happening to them or voices and visions.If this is true then consciousness is continuing while the brain is inactive.This is not sleep , where the brain is active , but the brain is to all intents and purposes dead.
If, and I say if this is true, then consciousness is not solely linked to brain activity.That would have major implecations as to the nature of consciousness.Where exactly doeas our consciousness reside?Is the brain just a means for it to recieve information and in fact consciousness does not exist there but works throught it instead.This does not have to mean we have an imortal soul etc, but for example,maybe hidden dimentions in space could be the source of our consciousness,or someting else, not just the world we are aware of.
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What happens when China rules the world?
by sleepy in.
all this talk of war with saddam and the power of america and europe etc,has got me thinking.i read resently that is is predicted that china will be the worlds biggest economy by 2040.with the size of china this is almost certain to happen if not sooner.how will this change the world i wonder, and it certainly will.will they be the one to call the shots against who they think is a threat to them in the future?edited by - sleepy on 8 september 2002 15:7:36.
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Question, if we call our fine dishes, China, do the the Chinese call their fine dishes America. Inquiring minds want to know.
Answer, No, the're called British.
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Don't buy CD's from supermarkets.Please.
by sleepy in.
for music lovers everywhere.. don't buy cd's from supermarkets.please.thats an order!.
there just been a report in britian that supermarkets are increasing their share of the recorded music market by selling cheap cd's.. why is this bad news?surly if you can get a cd from tescos for a tenner instead of 15 quid this is good?noooooooooooooooooo.. i say that again , no.. lets look at it.supermarkets can sell cd's and other items cheap because they make a profit on the other goods you buy.they use the offer of cheap cd's to entice you into their store.they only sell chart cd's otherwise they will make a loss on more obscure music which won't sell in bulk.. if you love music and wish to buy music or listen to good new music in the years to come, you are shooting yourself in the foot if you buy your music from supermarkets at a lower price.it is a false ecomony.this is why.when you hear a piece of music you like in a few years time which is not chart music and go to you local independant or specialist music store you will see a big sign on the door ,closed.they will have shut down because lack of sales when all their customers went to the cheapo market ment they could no longer survive.. they had to charge more for music becausea.it was the only thing they sellb.they stocked all types of music and would not make money on some bands and would make up for it with more popular bands.cthey could get the music you wanted on special order if they didn't have what you were looking ford.they had knowledge of music and bands which was readily available to you if needed.and a good few other things.. you are not saving anything if you buy cheap.if you like music you need to support the peole who want to supply it,and offer quality, which in the case of music includes choice, not just marketed corporate crap, not those in it for a quick buck.they need to charge more but have a far greater range of product, one which a supermarket will never have,ever.. you have been warned.
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sleepy
Downloading "free" music is bad for music, unless a band is giving it away.
There is no such thing as free.If a band can't make money from playing music how can they continue?This also creates a monopoly for the computer industry over music, beside the fact that the qaulity is crap.Its amazing that the quality of music reproduction is going down and down in the name of getting something free.
Any one who think cheap things are a bargin and everything should be cheaper has not rubbed some particular brain cells together and thought about it.