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  Stupid dumb ass changes yet blood and 1914 no change???wtfge???

  by Witness 007 in

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  yeah wow women can finally wear pants and men beards...but 1914 is still a date not accepted since charles russell times and blood fractions are evil!!.

  are they crazy!!!

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  The 1914 teaching, by itself, isn't a huge problem for them (at least, as long as we ignore that Russell's interpretation was that 1914 was the date of the end itself, not the beginning of the end). The problem is that they added the "this generation" teaching to it, which created a sense of urgency, which is useful for end-days cults.

  They quietly dropped that part in 1995, and that should have solved the problem. But without it, they don't have the sense of urgency anymore. So they came up with "overlapping generations." It's a really bad idea that they are stuck with for at least a while longer, and which I expect they will finally drop for good once the old guard are gone.
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  JWN staying at the top of Google Search

  by blondie in

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  i noticed awhile ago jw.org was first; now jwn is back being first.

  what determines that?.

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  I think the search results are influenced by your activity and browsing history, as well. It's difficult to say, since Bing has such an awful search function (made significantly worse by AI) and Google buries the actual results under almost a full page of paid adverts.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Simon: He'll be one of those types that bemoans how poor he is when he's older because he didn't work and plan for that future.

  And he won't admit that it's his own fault. Much easier to blame everyone else for his misfortunes. One thing that he might not realize is that he won't be able to count on patrons or wealthy supporters to keep comping him free vacations and trips around the world. Even the most hardcore supporters will eventually run out of patience, interest, or money.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  I wonder if there will eventually be an update from him, griping about how quickly the courts are moving.
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  I'll just leave this 'ere

  by stan livedeath in

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  2. beliefs

  woman who died and 'went to heaven' says she now knows when armageddon will happen (msn.com).

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  TonusOH

  I guess this means that suicide doesn't prevent you from going to heaven.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  In the livestream, he said that he wasn't having an affair-- he did not want a relationship, he wanted sex.

  That has always been his approach. Sexting with "women," his obsession with jerking off, paying for sex, etc. He likes the physical thrill, but does not want any strings attached. A wife and two daughters are a lot of strings. The "problems with their marriage" and their "incompatibility" with one another might simply be a case of him wanting her to be there when he wanted sex, and staying out of his way the rest of the time.
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  Yesterday's Public Talk: '' Reject Worldly Fantasies, Pursue Kingdom Realities''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my brother ( an elder ) calls me every time he's assigned a public talk.

  he believes listening to zoom meetings is a great start, to eventually attending in-person meetings.

  the talk is titled : '' reject worldly fantasies, pursue kingdom realities.

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  "Worldy fantasies"? Like making billions in real-estate sales?
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  slientbuddha: There is literally a garden chair that’s pushed directly up under the door handle of the house

  Top-notch security!

  My guess is that he was the only one in the GB pushing back against changes that the rest wanted to implement. It came to a head and he agreed to step down. Anything else, I have no clue. But a man of his age might have some health issues, and the stress of leaving a position as lofty as 'GB member' certainly would not help his blood pressure any. Especially if he was effectively pushed out.

  Time will tell. I'm impressed that they managed to keep it as hush-hush as they have, but I would imagine that we'll learn a lot more, eventually.
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  i was called on this morning

  by stan livedeath in

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  for the first time in ages.. a very elegantly dressed senior lady and a young chap.

  but--it wasnt just having a leaflet thrust at me--it was a full blown "old style" presentation.

  i stopped her going to far into it--by asking if they are jws--and told them i was an apostate.

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  I would have simply said no thanks and closed the door. But I would not have an issue with identifying myself as an apostate. It gets the point across quickly and clearly (except, apparently, when the JW is clueless!). It's the one way to reduce the odds that they will ever knock on your door again.
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  Consequences for actions. A high fat / sugary diet

  by joe134cd in

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  2. experiences

  i want to illustrate my point about where many x-jws go wrong.

  to illustrate, imagine a morbidly obese person goes on a calorie restricted diet.

  subsequently he loses the excess calories and his health improves.

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  If the only thing the WTS did was have a few beneficial rules regarding health and good living, that would be great. But they also prohibit blood transfusions. They encourage shunning of those who are disfellowshipped. They demand --under the threat of being disfellowshipped-- that the leadership be obeyed unconditionally, even when they are wrong.

  If every JW followed this advice and was a paragon of clean living and good health, those latter rules would still be a reason to leave the organization. No one gets disfellowshipped for being obese. They probably don't even get any friendly counsel. The rules they enforce the most are the ones that make the organization such a bad place to be in.

  Is the occasional success story worth the suffering that their policies inflict?