Posts by TonusOH

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Discouraging JWs From Calling

by NotFormer in

i was reading an anti cult reddit post where a woman (ex mormon) was trying her hardest to discourage the mormons from visiting her and trying to convert her back.

a few others chimed in about their various methods (coming to the door naked, pretending to be practicing black magic, etc.

) which they claimed would have the mormons and jws running away as fast as possible.. somehow, i doubt it.

TonusOH

NotFormer: an actual teacher acting that way towards a ten year old girl?

Ahhh, the USA school system in the 1970s!

Our second-grade teacher was a tall, intense man who may never have smiled in his life. He would have been described as "strict" in those days, as opposed to abusive, which is what he was. He would routinely slap or shove children (remember, this is second grade... we were seven years old) and occasionally manhandle them, such as twisting their arms behind their backs. There was a group of four or five children who were his constant targets. The rest of us kept quiet and did as we were told because the way he assaulted them was terrifying.

And our parents were fucking thrilled with the guy. In the second grade, we had memorized our multiplication and division tables, and were doing math lessons that were normally part of the fifth-grade math class. His ability to terrorize us into doing well in math was all the justification that parents needed. I have no idea what happened to him. I must assume that he either continued to traumatize children, or finally met a parent that didn't put up with his act, or maybe died of a stroke or got run over by a bus (or any other fate that would spare further generations of children).

I do feel that schools today have often gone too far in the other direction, but this guy is responsible for untold numbers of people who are messed up in some way or another. And parents thought it was great.

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Unchangeable wisdom from the "slave" of yesteryear! 😀

by BoogerMan in

brethern, and cistern, today's lesson from the golden calf is one of profound importance - never to be forgotten!.

w56 6/15 p. 360 - "we usually believe what we want to believe, and one thing we like to believe is that we do our own thinking.

they plant the thought and nourish it, but do it so subtly that we think it is our own.

TonusOH

In the 1954 court case (in Scotland, was it?), Franz admitted that the view of the WTS is that they quite specifically do not want the rank-and-file to test what is written in JW literature. What they wanted was for the individual to read the articles, read the provided chapter/verse, and recognize that the WTS was correct.

His testimony made it clear that a JW who tested what was being written was doing it wrong. As a JW, you are supposed to read the material and come to an understanding that is in conformity with the WTS interpretation. Testing what they wrote is a sure way to get in trouble with the organization.

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Is Jesus the Creator?

by Sea Breeze in

that's what the word says.

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colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

TonusOH

Wasn't it Rutherford who ended Christmas celebrations at Bethel and forbade celebrating it? I assume it was him because he seemed to make a lot of policy/doctrinal decisions based on his apparent desire to differentiate the organization from mainstream Christianity. Making a big fuss about the birth date of Jesus versus the birthday of Jesus is the kind of contrarian nonsense that characterized so many of his decisions.

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Fashion in Heaven

by peacefulpete in

why is it that fashions are assumed to have stayed the same in heaven for thousands of years?

you'd think that after wearing the same boring robe for eternity you'd crave something different.

yet no, angels and god are still wearing the same white onesie they had when they vacationed on earth with abraham.

TonusOH

Now I can't help but keep hearing in my head the voice of Liberace groaning "I wish my apostle Paul was here" before beginning his next musical interlude.

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EMERGENCY ALERT!! UKRAINE LAUNCHES MORE NATO MISSILES INTO RUSSIA . . . WORLD WAR III IS HERE!!!

by Littleleslie in

emergency alert!!

ukraine launches more nato missiles into russia .

world war iii is here!!!

TonusOH

"Retaliatory actions are being prepared."

Ah, so they're finally going to fight back?

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Memories of Excessive Laughter

by Sea Breeze in

jw
friends

jw's are not known for laughter.

there are the rare exceptions.

they are more known for their fear mongering and doomsday scenarios where "the dead shall come to be as manure on the surface of the ground from one end of the earth clear to the other".

TonusOH

Most of the JWs I knew were pretty normal. I can remember a couple of people who were sour most of the time, the kind of people who responded to "good morning" with "what's so good about it?" And there were some MS and elders who let the position get to their heads and could suck the fun out of any gathering. But I found most of them to be kind and friendly people.

Ironically, part of that perception probably comes from my frame of reference. My mother is one of the most dour and bitter people I have ever known. She rarely let her guard down. She could be perfectly nice around other JWs, though you could see where it was forced from time-to-time. But with her family, she was as negative and downtrodden a person as I can ever imagine. Compared to her, even the most contrarian JW was pretty mellow.

I think the dividing line was that some JWs were anxious for that last day to happen, while most were content to live their lives without worrying about it. To me, it seems as if the more hardcore you were, the more miserable you were. Because the greatest day of your life was so, so close but never, ever arrived.

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EMERGENCY ALERT!! UKRAINE LAUNCHES MORE NATO MISSILES INTO RUSSIA . . . WORLD WAR III IS HERE!!!

by Littleleslie in

emergency alert!!

ukraine launches more nato missiles into russia .

world war iii is here!!!

TonusOH

It seems like we're getting spammed with these lately.

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Scam Marketing !

by Phizzy in

we are constantly being attacked by scam marketers who create a perceived need , not a real one, and hence create within us a want.

if we fill our desire for that thing or things by buying in to it, we then end up with totally unnecessary expense.

we have been scammed.. whether that be something to do with the latest fashions and trends, the latest 'phone, car or something similar.. the longest running, and most lucrative marketing scam in all human history has been religion.

TonusOH

I think it developed organically, for many different reasons. And, over time, was corrupted for the benefit of those who could use it to take advantage of the people around them. Which, sadly, makes it like so many other human endeavors: business, finance, government, and so on. Created to meet a need, developed as societies grew, and abused by grifters.

The survival instinct keeps doing its thing, even when it is detrimental to the group and, therefore, the individual.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

TonusOH

Lots of people will reflexively give when someone begs, so he will always see an increase when he does so. But there are diminishing returns, especially if done too often in a short time frame, and moreso when there is not enough content to justify the continued support. After a while, it will become apparent that he's asking them to fund his living expenses with nothing to show for it.

He was on his way to 900-1,000 Patreon subscribers when he made his disastrous livestream. He has managed to get the number back up over 500 once with a begging stunt, and had another one or two increases when he reached out to his remaining supporters. How many subs would he have now, if he had more self-control? 2,000? 5,000? Subscriber totals tend to increase at a faster rate as the number grows, after all.

But, no... he threw it away. Not because he is sexually repressed and cannot control his penis. The problem is that he cannot control his ego.

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What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

by Sea Breeze in

i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

TonusOH

greenhornet: My mom making hamburger patties. "It's not blood it's juice"

She was right, kinda. Myoglobin is a protein found in the muscles of animals. It's not a component of blood. Mixed with oxygen, it's the source of the "red" in red meat and is what makes the 'juice' red.