It seems as if they've gone from "even if we are wrong, you should still be loyal and obey" to "even if we do something immoral and awful, you should still be loyal and obey."
TonusOH
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HOW TO BE LOYAL TO JEHOVAH
by liam ina post from another exjw site, shows how throughout the years, in a regular, systematic fashion, the watchtower has influence thoroughly; an ideological point of view, in the minds of it’s members by using bible scriptures and examples, to get the members to do the unthinkable, even if it clashes with modern ethics.
february 2016 watchtower, paragraph 3 of the article titled .
"learn from jehovah’s loyal servants".
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They are running out of people to do their stuff.
by liam inthis is the watchtower study article being studied today.
so it’s the current new light!.
what are the new qualifications to be an “elder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.
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TonusOH
If people are leaving when they are young (especially the born-ins), then it's no surprise that they are doing this. Rope them in early with a position of authority and let them get a taste of power. Sadly, that doesn't make for a good elder or ministerial servant. But it probably keeps them in a little bit longer.
Now they just have to figure out how to offer something similar for women...
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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead
by Sea Breeze inlike the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.
the police chief points out that: .
“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.
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TonusOH
I agree that cheap guns are a major part of the problem. It's also the one we do not focus on, since the cheapest guns are the ones that are obtained illegally, and we do not seem to be too concerned about illegal gun ownership. We focus on the damage done with legally-obtained guns, but deliberately ignore the huge toll caused by illegal guns. It is the latter that is the reason why so many places that have the strictest gun control also have high numbers of gun-related crimes and deaths.
It is treated primarily as a political issue by the left, since they are determined to end legal gun ownership. The odds of ever achieving that are almost zero, because the USA has a very deeply-ingrained gun culture. The practical approach would be to work on getting rid of illegal weapons, but there's not enough to gain politically from that. So we do a lot of huffing and puffing, but don't ever really make progress on the problem.
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Long live consistency
by psyco in.
(the kingdom interlinear translation of the greek scriptures, wt 1969, p. 23).
between yahweh (more correct) and jehovah (more familiar), they decided to use the more familiar (jehovah).. between stake (more correct) and cross (more familiar), they decided to use the more correct (stake).. 🤣🤣🤣.
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TonusOH
Interesting. They admit to adding "Jehovah" to the new testament wherever they* felt the old testament gave them reason to do so. And, as ever, they make sure to tell JWs that they will rejoice over it. And by "will" they mean you had better rejoice.
* I am assuming that 'they' means Fred Franz.
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Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’
by LongHairGal inthis information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.
(i don’t go on jw dot org).
it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.
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TonusOH
They should have done this long ago. In the build up to 1975, they praised JWs who sold property and left jobs to dedicate all of their time to preaching "in the remaining months" before the end. They warned young people that they would "never grow old" before the end. Reminding them to prepare for old age and retirement would have run counter to the message.
Then, when 1975 passed without incident, they tried to ignore it and then blamed JWs for getting too worked up over nothing. They finally made a half-hearted admission of their part in it, but only when publisher growth went negative. With the chance to remind JWs to prepare for old age and retirement, they instead leaned into "the generation" for another 20 years.
And it's taken a further 20+ years after that for them to finally decide it's a good idea to encourage JWs to prepare for old age and retirement. Too late for all of the JWs who were convinced the end was going to come before they got old. Can't collect money from them now, I guess.
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Study Watchtower March 2025 - Ever heard THIS before.........
by BoogerMan in.........during the past 120 years???????????.
page16, par.
9 - "we are convinced that as the gibbering body prophecy indicates, soon - very soon -god’s kingdom will destroy human governments.".
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TonusOH
"Millions now living will eventually die."
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Merry Christmas Everyone
by jhine init's that time of year again .
in the words of the bard ( noddy holder ) " it's christmaaas " .
merry christmas everybody .
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TonusOH
Bribie: Following and acting out the Christmas celebration seems very cultish to me!
Does it, really? Cults limit behavior and information access. If I put up lights and buy gifts for friends, is that really cultish?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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TonusOH
On the brighter side, the number of people he can scam is shrinking. And it seems as if the big money donations (including trips around the world) are also drying up. There is less and less value in 'being Lloyd Evans.'
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Why Did God Create Us?
by Sea Breeze injesus is the creator god, but why did he create us?
what say you?.
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TonusOH
The Bible never explains why god decided to create the universe, nor why he decided to create humans.
JWs believe that god does not need anything, as he is complete and perfect. Hence, there doesn't seem to be a reason for the creation of anything. Which should leave us a bit worried. A being of incomprehensible power creates a universe and populates a vanishingly small speck of it with creatures that have spent almost their entire existence suffering. He arranges for a relatively small number of them to eventually have a blissful afterlife, while condemning most of them to eternal suffering.
So, why did he create us? Because he enjoys watching the suffering of others, seems to be the most logical explanation.
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Merry Christmas Everyone
by jhine init's that time of year again .
in the words of the bard ( noddy holder ) " it's christmaaas " .
merry christmas everybody .
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TonusOH
Merry Christmas, Jan!