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  JW Vaccine mandate: The contrast between voices of reason and confusion

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading an intriguing post on the exjw reddit, a forum i do not with to sign up for, as i'm not interested in the internal politics of reddit.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1hwlja8/the_governing_bodys_letter_that_shook_bethel_and/.

  another post counteracted this one, driven by the "conspiracy theory" card.

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  Nearly every medication will affect some people adversely. This can be due to allergic reactions or other existing conditions (including congenital ones). This is why so many drug commercials have a disclaimer with all of the possible negative side effects. Think of how many of these often include death as a "side effect.''

  Rushing out a vaccine to deal with a highly-contagious infection that has a relatively high mortality rate increases the likelihood that there will be adverse reactions, including death. The extent of the rollout also leaves us without an answer to the question of what would have happened otherwise. Lots of people died from COVID. Some may have died from the vaccine. The lack of certainty is where conspiracy theories get their momentum.

  We had some people here who appeared to have bought into the idea that COVID and the vaccines were part of a conspiracy to drastically reduce the world's population by killing off billions of people. Time has shown that to be... mistaken. It may be decades more before we learn enough to know just how bad COVID was, and how bad the vaccines were/weren't. Until then, enjoy the conspiracy theories.
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  What's a Good Question to Ask at the Door?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws haven't been to my door for a while, but i don't doubt that they'll turn up eventually*.

  (i saw easter eggs in the supermarket yesterday, so "memorial" season is fast approaching 🙄).

  what's a good question to ask, to get the ball rolling?.

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  Maybe the best question is "DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?!?!?!"
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  A message from Barbara Anderson re: the health state of her hero, her husband, Joe Anderson

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from barbara:.

  my dear husband, joe anderson, has had very real problems with his short-term memory for at least a year which really worried me.

  as his mental health deteriorated, i decided to have our local longtime physician talk alone with joe during an office visit last september.

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  I want to second all of the messages of support. I hope things work out well. Thank you for all of your hard work for so many years.
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  Is the US a democracy or a republic? Yes

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.npr.org/2022/09/10/1122089076/is-america-a-democracy-or-a-republic-yes-it-is.

  throughout our history we have functioned as both.

  put another way, we have utilized characteristics of both.

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  We are a constitutional republic. The USA government was designed as a bottom-to-top structure, where states ran their own affairs and worked together to manage the nation as a whole. The idea was to avoid the risk of too much centralized power. We've been working hard for almost 250 years to undermine that structure, but it has managed to hold up. How much longer remains to be seen.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  So... he barely made one hour of video content in a month, and half of that time was spent talking about himself.

  It seems like he is going into a cycle of producing as little content as he can will himself to make, then lapsing into a period of self-pity, then trying to talk his remaining supporters out of cancelling their subscriptions. It does not seem as if anyone is paying him for trips around the globe, or offering to fund another holiday. Could this be the beginning of the end?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  JohnR1975: He has nothing in his life at all anymore no wonder he has problems with prostitution and drugs.

  Prostitution and drugs are the reason he has nothing in his life anymore.

  And also that he prefers to blame Kim instead of taking a look in a mirror now and then.
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  Mark O'Donnell sued by Pennsylvanian congregations over "eavesdropping" virtual meeting between lawyers and elders

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in a civil complaint filed under seal and unsealed nearly two months ago, 11 congregations accuse the activist of violating federal, pennsylvania and maryland wiretap statutes.

  in the course of the ongoing statewide grand jury investigation, all jw congregations in pennsylvania were subpoenaed to produce records pertaining to child sexual abuse.

  so, meetings were arranged, county by county, between lawyers and elders on how to deal with the subpoenas.

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  How can you hide yourself in a Teams meeting? Especially one where you have no administrator access? A click of a button would have shown all of the attendees. Did no one bother to check? I don't doubt that he wanted to remain unnoticed, but I don't see how he could hide himself from the other attendees. Perhaps the elders thought he was with the lawyers, and vice-versa?

  I'm not sure what case the WTS has here. They might be successful in getting the video taken down permanently, but how would they calculate damages? I wonder if there is a chance that O'Donnell will win and be able to get his legal fees reimbursed at the WTS's expense?
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  The "faithful servant" died in 1916.............

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  .........according to the 1922 "faithful slave.

  the watchtower may 1, 1922 - faithfulness is loyalty.

  "to be faithful means to be loyal.

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  "Jesus clearly indicated" and "the evidence is overwhelming."

  Looks like Jesus let the WTS down again. Can't he do anything right???
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  How to spot wolves in sheep's clothing!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  w64 11/1 pp.

  645-646 wolves in sheep’s covering - "can you detect them?

  how can you avoid becoming their prey?....to his first-century disciples jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: “look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘i am he [anointed],’ and, ‘the due time has approached.’ do not go after them.” (luke 21:8) .

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  I think it is a reference to the governing body, who consider themselves as "empowered representatives" of god.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Mikejw: He actually says the words that his daughters dont need him so much

  Maybe that is his way of saying that he doesn't want to bother with them anymore, or support them financially. Maybe that is why he feels trapped-- it's an expensive responsibility, and he's not exactly a shining example of a responsible husband/father.

  How long before the girls get a letter full of accusations and gaslighting? Stay tuned!