Posts by Snoozy

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Toxic Relationships

by serenitynow! in

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i have had it with my mother.

i've spoken on the board before about her.

she is fanatically religious, often keeps me on the phone for hours while she talks endlessly about the bible.

I never said anything about going back to someone that abused you..don't put words in my mouth please. My point was that many just want to get back at their parents by saying..I'm done with you without even thinking there may be a better way. They want to hurt them the same way they were hurt.

People need to be strong enough to stand up for what they believe and let the offending party know this. It doesn't always involve "Cutting them out of their lives and their kids lives.." That in itself can be very damaging to a child. (And them) as they really aren't solving the problem but creating new ones.

Learning to deal in this type situation is sometimes better than running.

I do have to say if a parent/child cuts you off you have no choice..but if they are at least talking I would not totally cut them off but still make certain restriction be known to them. (You're no one's doormat!)

Sometimes cutting someone off is running away from the problem. Sometimes the problem is letting them "Walk all over you " and you don't have the strength to stand up to them..That is where I suggest counseling to help learn how to better deal with the problem.

I certainly wouldn't recommend or encourage anyone to go back to a abusive husband or parent. (big sigh!)

Snoozy

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Things I have heard about California JW's

by mamalove in

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after reading the two piece bikini discussion and the comment about calipornea, it reminded me of something i used to hear about the jw attitude in general there.

that it was extremely lax compared to mid west or other areas.. people were supposedly not df'd when they would most definitely been elsewhere, and more "worldy" type of dress and grooming were tolerated well.. is this correct at least in some areas?

if so, do you think it has to do with money, or the general culture there?.

Snoozy

Flipper, what is Palm Springs considered?

Snoozy..who thinks her old girlfriend (that got reinstated) has a screw loose..

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Things I have heard about California JW's

by mamalove in

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friends

after reading the two piece bikini discussion and the comment about calipornea, it reminded me of something i used to hear about the jw attitude in general there.

that it was extremely lax compared to mid west or other areas.. people were supposedly not df'd when they would most definitely been elsewhere, and more "worldy" type of dress and grooming were tolerated well.. is this correct at least in some areas?

if so, do you think it has to do with money, or the general culture there?.

Snoozy

yourmomma, thank you for the link..

I didn't know about the "splinter groups".

Snoozy

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Need quote in WT literature that Bible is not enough to learn truth- help

by Gayle in

Snoozy

We cannot hope to aquire a good relationship with Jehovah if we ignore those whom Jesus has appointed to care for his belongings.Without the assistance of "the faithful and discreet slave", we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God's word the bible nor know how to apply it."

Didn't some of the"Faithful and Discreet get disfellowshipped or disassociate at one time or other?

Their so called "Spiritual leaders"?

Snoozy

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The WT Headship Principle (tm): Did you ever REALLY buy it?

by Open mind in

i believed that god was the big boss and his first-line supervisor was jesus.. .

everything beyond that got a bit shaky for me throughout my jw life.. .

but this bit, i never bought into for even an instant: the husband is the head of the wife.. .

Snoozy

Found this from the 2010 Elders Manuel:

"Watchtower has announced publication and distribution of its new book dated 2010 and titled “Shepherd the Flock of God—1 Peter 5:2”.[1]

Watchtower’s appointed elders have been told these books are for “elders only” and to be kept “secured and confidential”. Elders are further instructed that “other individuals should not have any opportunity to read the information.”[1]

These new books are soft-cover bound like other recent Watchtower publications. Some elders have expressed a preference to have these books re-bound with spiral binders. In response Watchtower has informed elders that if an elder prefers a spiral binding he may 1) have another elder do it for him, or 2) he may have a non-elder “brother” do it under his immediate supervision, but that 3) “Outside companies, unbelievers, or sisters are not permitted to do this work.”[2]"

It links "sisters" right there with the Outside companies and unbelievers... shows their view of "Women" still today!

Snoozy

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The WT Headship Principle (tm): Did you ever REALLY buy it?

by Open mind in

i believed that god was the big boss and his first-line supervisor was jesus.. .

everything beyond that got a bit shaky for me throughout my jw life.. .

but this bit, i never bought into for even an instant: the husband is the head of the wife.. .

Snoozy

I think it was easy to teach back in the 50's when I went. But I bet they start changing things pretty soon..Women wised up...

It's their world too!

Snoozy

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What Would You Like To Ask Any Poster Here?

by minimus in

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i'd like to ask undercover why he has so many responses that are similar to what i think?.

finally free, are you really as cranky as you seem?.

Snoozy

I thought he wasn't coming till 2012? I am having this really neat Mansion built for him . I will live in it till he gets here... (Financed in his name of course)

Snoozy

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AUDIO: Watchtower says No Higher Education

by kurtbethel in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kreg4kkser0.

at the 2006 district convention, long beach, california.

speaker william h miles - young people remember now your grand creator.

Snoozy

Kurt, Blondie listed the titles of the talks of the assembly that year..I didn't see that listed. Which talk was that taken from?

Snoozy

edited to add: Never mind, I found it..

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AUDIO: Watchtower says No Higher Education

by kurtbethel in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kreg4kkser0.

at the 2006 district convention, long beach, california.

speaker william h miles - young people remember now your grand creator.

Snoozy

The guy giving the talk sounded like he needed a little more education... I noticed a few grammatical errors..

Snoozy

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It's not about theology - It's about character

by LennyinBluemont in

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i have come to understand that people who are jehovahs witnesses are for the most part, good and honest people.

just like people in other religions or for that matter, people who dont practice any religion.

and, like those other people, they also have their minority of people who are selfish, deceptive and not very nice.

Snoozy

An interesting thought on this subject!

I came accross this a while back:

"Charles Taze Russell did not believe in an authoritarian organization such as the Jehovah's Witnesses. Russell believed that Christians could be found amongst all denominations, and that the church did not need a visible headship, such as a governing body here on earth. Russell was associated with the Bible Students movement, and he was the main founder of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, but that legal entity did not control the activities of the congregations of the Bible Students. Russell believed in the religion that was started by Jesus and the apostles, and did not seek to start a new religion.

Joseph Rutherford is the real founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses organization, since no such organization existed in the days of Russell. After Russell died, Rutherford use the legal entity as a basis for form a new religious organization, claiming it to be the "God's visible organization on earth." By 1930, most of the earlier Bible Students movement had rejected Rutherford's new organization, and they rejected Rutherford's new doctrines that would deny their central doctrine of the "ransom for all." The Bible Students movement was existing and carrying on its affairs without Rutherford or Rutherford's new organization and teachings. In order to distinguish his organization from the Bible Students movement, in 1931, Rutherford had the name "Jehovah's Witnesses" adopted to distinguish his new organization from the Bible Students movment.

With this in mind, it is misleading to associate Charles Taze Russell with an organization (Jehovah's Witnesses) that he did not believe in.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_founded_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses#ixzz1ERkIy8kc The JW book "Jehovah's Witnesses Proclaimers of God's Kingdom" mentions the work of Russell in proclaiming the "good news".. It said the four opposers to Rutherford's appointment were not even supposed to be directors as they were never voted on by the corporation even tho Russell had appointed them. They were thus ousted..and Rutherford .. In my eyes Rutherford went from a Encyclopedia book salesman to a Magazine, religion peddling salesman. The actual WTBTS was established under Russell in 1879.. The actual name of Jehovah's Witnesses didn't come about until 1931 when it was voted on at an assembly.. Snoozy