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  2 parents in ICU

  by Esmeralda in

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  this is the only way i can get the word out that justin and i. each have a parent in university hospital intensive care units.

  at the moment.

  one in my home state, one in his.. my father had a brain aneurism 12 days ago and after brain surgery, and many long nights seems to be stable.

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  Es,

  I'm sorry to hear about yours and Justins' parents. As you said though. It's a long road to recovery, once they are out of the woods. My thoughts and prayers will be with you all.

  peace,
  somebody
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  To stephenw20/crossroads

  by somebody in

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  stephenw20, (crossroads, can you please pass this on to stephen if he's no longer on-line?

  i haven't seen him post in a long time.).

  he didn't know what i was talking about either so i explained to him that i do not want any jws at my door.

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  stephenw20, (crossroads, can you please pass this on to stephen if he's no longer on-line? I haven't seen him post in a LONG time.)

  I called the Charitable planning office today and asked the woman who answered to connect me to the Do Not Call office. She didn't know what I was talking about and said, "You mean don't call you on the phone?" I told her that no, I mean I don't want any JWs knocking on my door for any reason. I don't want them here, period. She asked me what state I'm calling from and said she would connect me. A man answered and I asked if this was the Do Not Call office. He didn't know what I was talking about either so I explained to him that I do not want any JWs at my door. He then connected me to another office after asking me what state I was calling from. Another man answered and I explained again what I wanted, adding that I have to teens at a very impressionable age and I don't want any JWs trying to get them to become members of their sect. I don't want them at my door, or in my house. He asked me my name and my address, which I gave him. He repeated it back to me to make sure he had my name and address right and he then said ,"OK, I'll notify the congregation." That was the end of the conversation. He hung up right after saying that.

  Thank you for telling me about the Do Not Call office. Somehow, I don't think there is one though. The first 2 people I spoke to didn't know what I was talking about when I asked to be connected to the Do Not Call office.

  I hope all is well with you. And you too, crossroads.

  peace,
  sombody
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  Just a little piece of me!

  by VeniceIT in

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  i just got to thinking (scary i know), who am i???

  we are the people we are because of what weve been through and the experiences weve had, but what if everything i we lived was fake??

  i mean i really feel like i was living in the truman show.

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  Venice,

  We didn't know the "before freedom" you, but I love you just the way you are. Always smiling, and making others smile! I think you're a wonderful person and wish I knew you in real life too. (meaning not just on the internet)

  I'm sorry about your family being severed from each other. I hope someday your sister and family will escape from the grips of the cult and you are able to be part of their lives again.

  peace,
  somebody
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  Why We Come Here... or Go There.... or Don't..

  by AGuest in

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  greetings to all... and may you have peace!.

  the answer is quite simple: we are a 'social' species, albeit some of us prefer socializing a bit more than others.

  and some quite a bit more than others.

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  hi,AG

  So, sometimes we 'feel like a nut'... sometimes... we don't. Some days we feel like 'cashews'; on other days, like, well, 'macadamias'. Somedays we feel like having BOTH... and some days, we don't feel like having nuts at all. But there ARE a variety of nuts... and at one time or another, we all feel like one or more them. A lot of times, we feel like having a nut 'mix', and sometimes we just want ice cream and whipped cream... with no nuts at all.

  Ain't that the truth.

  I agree that we all have much commonality too. I'm glad to have a place such as this to visit.

  Thanks for your nice thoughts.

  peace,
  sombody
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  "Sharing" a piece of myself - part 4

  by Tallyman in

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  if you don't want to read the small text, i've made an identical webpage.

  to the print appearing below @.

  * http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/sharing4.html.

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  Tom,

  All you wrote must have been very hard. Thank you for sharing this part of you with us. We can only imagine all you have lived through. You've given us the chance to imagine it by your spilling your heart out here.

  I only wish that it were possible for us to take your pain away. A sad fact is that there will always be the lip sevice people you spoke about. Those are the same people who view you as "Proven Innocent, But Not Really Innocent" people. And there really is nothing you can do about your sisters. How is your father doing?

  I sincerely pray that time eases your pain, and that you can find some inner peace.

  peace,
  somebody
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  "Sharing" a piece of myself - part 2

  by Tallyman in

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  if you don't want to read the small text, i've made an identical webpage.

  to the print appearing below @.

  * http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/sharing2.html.

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  wendy,

  You've helped a lot more people here than you give yourself credit for. All the best to you, you deserve it!

  peace,
  somebody
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  "Sharing" a piece of myself - part 2

  by Tallyman in

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  if you don't want to read the small text, i've made an identical webpage.

  to the print appearing below @.

  * http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/sharing2.html.

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  COMF,

  I usually do not step into things like this but I'm jumping in to say this:

  As someone once said, "There's a know it all in every crowd."

  I feel MUCH better having said that. I needed to get that out a long time ago!

  Tally

  I'll post my response very soon.

  peace,
  somebody
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  When Loneliness Sets In ?

  by Big Jim in

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  since i have left the non-truth it seems like sometimes loneliness sets in regardless of what you do do prevent it.. i suppose the main reason it happens for me is that my family still is very involved in the non-truth and i tend to not to have nothing to do with any jws at all, even though my wife has bookstudy and field service at our home.. well i guess that goes with the territory when you make a firm conviction to take a stand against something you know not to be true.. here are some quotes on this subject for anyone who likes quotes.. .

  shakespeare, leonardo da vinci, benjamin franklin, and lincoln never saw a movie, heard a radio, or looked at a tv they had loneliness and knew what to do with it.

  they were not afraid of being lonely because they knew that was when the creative mood in them would mark.. .

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  Big Jim,

  I'm sorry to hear about your lonliness. I agree that time makes a big difference too. And like others have offered, try and get out and do things with people.

  My thoughts are with you and yours.

  peace,
  somebody
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  Escaped with my life!

  by truman in

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  i wanted to give an update to all those who kindly offered suggestions on how to deal with my jw son's ultimatum' "go tell the elders, or i will".. these last few days have been an intense crash course in life for me.

  having experienced my firstborn son, whom i gave birth to, wiped his behind, dried his tears, and helped to grow to adulthood with loving support, threaten to turn me over to the "authorities" (elders) for wrong thinking and wrong speech, has been a deeply disturbing experience.

  learning the truth about the "truth" was shocking, but this is just a crying tragedy.. after he found a short email from a board friend, which inadvertantly got into our regular email box instead of my private one, i was given a week to go to the elders.

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  truman,

  whew! I'm glad the situation turned out as well as it did. When I read your post, I was afraid of what would happen to you next. I didn't know what advice to give. People here all had good advice on what to do in that situation. I'm also sorry that your trust relationship with your son has been strained. I pray that someday he'll "see".

  peace,
  somebody
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  Haven't you got anything better to do?

  by tedcobb in

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  obviously a lot of you are no longer jws, for whatever reason, but surely you can find something better to do with your time.

  you seem to spend a lot of your spare time slating the society or picking holes in your former beliefs.. if you've left and think what jws believe is a load of rubbish, thtat fine, you cn do what you want, but why you have to go on about it?

  if being a jw means so little to you, why not just leave it behind and get on with your life?

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  If you've left and think what JWs believe is a load of rubbish, thtat fine, you cn do what you want, but why you have to go on about it?

  Have you ever stopped to think that WE ARE doing what we want to do? If between all of us, we can help people that have been handed over to satan by "some of the most peaceful people on earth", ( your words!, but of course we ALL know they aren't your words at all, and you don't even mean them. You read them in a Watchtower over and over and over again. Just like you read that you are the most happiest, humblest, honest, loving people too.) then all our efforts are worth letting the people the whole organization that YOU are a MEMBER of participated in handing over to satan, that they are still worthy of the love of God, themselves, and others.

  And when your god, the WBTS/society tells LIES to the public and media on their site such as this one: ( and this is only ONE of the outright lies on the site)
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  "Are you Christians?

  Yes. We follow Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and put faith in the ransom sacrifice he provided for the salvation of mankind. We imitate his example in preaching and teaching and in our dealings with fellow humans."
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  we are here, as witnesses, that it's a lie.

  JWs DO NO such thing! ( here is my reference from the official media site that your god provides to decieve the public, so that one "humble" person can't say that I got it from anyone else... http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/beliefsfaq.htm )

  Jesus said in Matthew 28:18 that ALL AUTHORITY over the heavens and the earth were given to him, after he died for our sins, and was resurrected. He also said to STOP JUDGING and to STOP CONDEMNING one another. (Luke 6:37)..... John 5:22 says that even Jehovah judges no one. He has committed Jesus to do the judging.

  so....

  Do JWs REALLY follow Jesus ? NO, they do NOT. Therefore, it is a lie that they are Christians. The WBTS tells that lie. This is what kind of "peaceful" people they really are: ( i've quoted you, the Bible, and the "organization's" site only)

  7/1/92 Watchtower
  "In recent years disfellowshippings worldwide have been approximately 1 percent of publishers. That means that out of about a hundred sheep that remain in the fold, one is lost-at least temporarily. Considering the time and effort it takes to bring a person into the fold, is it not heartrending to know that tens of thousands are 'handed back to Satan' every year?-1 Corinthians 5:5."

  Here is the organization that you follow and that you say you are HAPPY with, completely taking the authority that God gave to his Son off him, and taking it upon themselves to judge if fellow sinners as unrepentent, and then to condemn them by "handing them over to satan". They quote a scripture of letters that Paul wrote to the congregation of Corinthians and USE that to justify totaly throwing out the reason why God gave his Son's life for us to begin with. That is just on way that JWs do NOT put faith in the sacrifice that God made for MANKIND.

  "is it not heartrending to know that tens of thousands are 'handed back to Satan' every year?"......OBVIOUSLY it is not heartrending enough for JWs to stop the evil practice of handing TENS OF THOUSANDS of fellow sinners over to satan. For they still hand people over to satan to this day. And you just said that you were happy being part of it all. And for those of us who were not happy following "the organization" and chose to follow Jesus instead, guess where it would have (if we'd stuck around for it) got us with these "peaceful" people. HANDED OVER TO SATAN! And I've only talked about ONE lie that YOUR organization tells. There are too many to count.

  So..now here we are, all of us "apostates from the organization", to help pick up all the people that the most peaceful, loving, humble, honest people on earth/in the world tossed to satan . We have apostated/stand away from YOUR organisation. How evil of us all. Someday, you might come out of darkness and into light. When you do, your eyes will take time to adjust too the light, as when waking up to sunlight. All of us evil apostates will be here to help you throuhg it in anyway we can. Even to just listen to you get your anger and pain out. Please remember that. I wish you well.

  peace,
  somebody