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DIARY OF A SNOW SHOVELER
by Mary into all who live where there's snow, i think you'll appreciate this.............. diary of a snow shoveler .
december 8: it started to snow.
the first snow of the season and the wife and i took our cocktails and sat for hours by the window watching the huge, soft flakes drift down from heaven.
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Is it me ???
by somebody ino hearer of prayer, even to you people of all flesh will come.psalm 65:2.. jehovah god is the king of eternity.
who can pray and be heard?
approaching the king eternal.
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Hi all!
In reading this article, what do you think is the message the watchtower printing factory is trying to tell it's potential followers? I've been accused of misquoting to change the message, so I'm posting the whole article. Please read the questions at the end too! And then please, I beg of you!, to just sum up the message that the writer of the article is trying to get across .
*** w90 5/15 10-15 Fear Jehovah, the Hearer of Prayer *** Fear Jehovah, the Hearer of Prayer
O Hearer of prayer, even to you people of all flesh will come.PSALM 65:2.
JEHOVAH GOD is the King of eternity. He is also the Hearer of prayer, to whom people of all flesh will come. (Revelation 15:3; Psalm 65:2) But how should they come to him? Earthly kings regulate such things as the dress and the manner of those allowed into their presence. Surely, then, we should expect the King Eternal to have requirements that must be met by anyone wishing to come before him with supplication and thanksgiving.Philippians 4:6, 7.
2 What does the King Eternal require of those approaching him in prayer? Who can pray and be heard? And about what can they pray?
Approaching the King Eternal
3 Before he became a sinner, Adam, a son of God, evidently communed with the King of eternity. (Luke 3:38; Genesis 1:26-28) When Adams son Abel presented some firstlings of his flock to God, undoubtedly this offering was accompanied by expressions of supplication and praise. (Genesis 4:2-4) Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob built altars and approached Jehovah prayerfully with their offerings. (Genesis 8:18-22; 12:7, 8; 13:3, 4, 18; 22:9-14; 26:23-25; 33:18-20; 35:1, 3, 7) And the prayers of Solomon, Ezra, and divinely inspired psalmists indicate that the Israelites approached God without any intermediary.1 Kings 8:22-24; Ezra 9:5, 6; Psalm 6:1, 2; 43:1; 55:1; 61:1; 72:1; 80:1; 143:1.
4 A new approach to God in prayer was instituted in the first century of our Common Era. It was through his Son, Jesus Christ, who had special love for mankind. In his prehuman existence, Jesus served joyfully as a master worker, fond of things associated with humankind. (Proverbs 8:30, 31) As a man on earth, Jesus lovingly helped imperfect humans spiritually, cured the ailing, and even raised the dead. (Matthew 9:35-38; Luke 8:1-3, 49-56) Above all, Jesus gave his soul a ransom for many. (Matthew 20:28) How appropriate, then, that those availing themselves of the ransom should approach God through this one who loves mankind so much! This is now the only avenue of approach to the King Eternal, for Jesus himself said: No one comes to the Father except through me and, If you ask the Father for anything he will give it to you in my name. (John 14:6; 16:23) Asking for things in Jesus name means recognizing him as the way to approach the Hearer of prayer.
5 Especially should we appreciate the love Jehovah showed by providing the ransom. Jesus said: God loved the world [of mankind] so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. (John 3:16) The depth of Gods love is well-expressed in the psalmists words: As the heavens are higher than the earth, his loving-kindness is superior toward those fearing him. As far off as the sunrise is from the sunset, so far off from us he has put our transgressions. As a father shows mercy to his sons, Jehovah has shown mercy to those fearing him. For he himself well knows the formation of us, remembering that we are dust. (Psalm 103:11-14) How heartening to know that the prayers of Jehovahs dedicated Witnesses ascend to such a loving Father through his Son!
A Restricted Privilege
6 Human kings do not allow just anyone to enter into the royal palace unannounced. An audience with a king is a restricted privilege. So is prayer to the King of eternity. Of course, those approaching him through Jesus Christ with proper appreciation of Gods glorious majesty can expect to be heard. The King Eternal must be approached with a reverent, worshipful attitude. And those desiring to be heard must display the fear of Jehovah.Proverbs 1:7.
7 What is the fear of Jehovah? It is profound reverence for God, coupled with a wholesome dread of displeasing him. This awe stems from deep gratitude for his loving-kindness and goodness. (Psalm 106:1) It involves acknowledging him as the King of eternity, who has the right and the power to bring punishment, including death, upon anyone disobeying him. Persons manifesting the fear of Jehovah may pray to him with the expectation of being heard.
8 Naturally, God does not answer the prayers of wicked, unfaithful, and self-righteous people. (Proverbs 15:29; Isaiah 1:15; Luke 18:9-14) But those who fear Jehovah are heard because they have conformed to his righteous standards. Yet, they have done more. Fearers of Jehovah have made a dedication to God in prayer and symbolized this by undergoing water baptism. They thus have an unrestricted privilege of prayer.
9 To be heard by God, a person must express prayerful sentiments that are in harmony with the divine will. Yes, he must be sincere, but more is required. Without faith it is impossible to please [God] well, wrote the apostle Paul, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him. (Hebrews 11:6) Well, then, can unbaptized persons be encouraged to pray with the hope of being heard?
10 Aware that prayer is a restricted privilege, King Solomon asked that Jehovah hear only foreigners who prayed toward Gods temple in Jerusalem. (1 Kings 8:41-43) Centuries later, the Gentile foreigner Cornelius made supplication to God continually as a devout man. Upon gaining accurate knowledge, Cornelius dedicated himself to God, who then gave him the holy spirit. Following this, Cornelius and other Gentiles were baptized. (Acts 10:1-44) Like Cornelius, anyone today progressing toward dedication may be encouraged to pray. But an individual who is insincere about studying the Scriptures, does not know the divine requirements for prayer, and has not yet displayed an attitude pleasing to God cannot be said to fear Jehovah, have faith, or be earnestly seeking him. Such a person is not in position to offer prayers acceptable to God.
11 Some who were at one time progressing toward dedication later may seem to be holding back. If they do not have enough love for God in their heart to make an unreserved dedication to him, they ought to ask themselves whether they still have the wonderful privilege of prayer. Apparently not, because those approaching God must be earnestly seeking him and also righteousness and meekness. (Zephaniah 2:3) Everyone who really fears Jehovah is a believer who makes a dedication to God and symbolizes it by getting baptized. (Acts 8:13; 18:8) And only baptized believers have an unrestricted privilege of approaching the King Eternal in prayer.
Praying With Holy Spirit
12 After a person makes a dedication to God and symbolizes it by being baptized, he is in position to pray with holy spirit. Concerning this, Jude wrote: But you, beloved ones, by building up yourselves on your most holy faith, and praying with holy spirit, keep yourselves in Gods love, while you are waiting for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ with everlasting life in view. (Jude 20, 21) A person prays with holy spirit when praying under the influence of Gods spirit, or active force, and in harmony with the things said in His Word. The Scriptures, written under inspiration of Jehovahs spirit, show us how to pray and what to request in prayer. For example, we can confidently pray that God give us his holy spirit. (Luke 11:13) When we pray with holy spirit, our prayers reveal a heart condition that Jehovah loves.
13 When we pray with holy spirit, our prayers are not filled with high-sounding words. They do not consist of formulas repeated by rote. No, they do not contain virtually meaningless doxologies, insincere expressions of praise. Prayers of that sort abound in Christendom and the rest of Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion. But true Christians heed Jesus counsel: When you pray you are not to be as the hypocrites are; for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and at the corners of the main streets, so that they may be visible to men . . . And in praying do not parrot off words like the heathen; for they [erroneously] think they will get themselves listened to by the quantity of what they say. So do not be like them.Matthew 6:5-8, Byington.
14 In addition to Jesus and Bible writers, others have made perceptive statements regarding prayer. For instance, the English writer John Bunyan (1628-88) said: Prayer is a sincere, sensible, affectionate pouring out of the soul to God, through Christ, in the strength and assistance of the Spirit, for such things as God has promised. Puritan minister Thomas Brooks (1608-80) observed: God looks not at the oratory of your prayers, how elegant they may be; nor at the geometry of your prayers, how long they may be; nor at the arithmetic of your prayers, how many they may be; not at logic of your prayers, how methodical they may be; but the sincerity of them he looks at. To these comments may be added Bunyans remark: In prayer it is better to have a heart without words, than words without a heart. But if we are sincere and do meet divine requirements, how can we be sure that the King of eternity will hear our prayers?
Never Turned Away
15 Jehovah God never turns a deaf ear to the prayers of his dedicated servants. This was made clear in Jesus heartwarming words when his disciples requested instruction on prayer. In part he said: Who of you will have a friend and will go to him at midnight and say to him, Friend, loan me three loaves, because a friend of mine has just come to me on a journey and I have nothing to set before him? And that one from inside says in reply, Quit making me trouble. The door is already locked, and my young children are with me in bed; I cannot rise up and give you anything. I tell you, Although he will not rise up and give him anything because of being his friend, certainly because of his bold persistence he will get up and give him what things he needs. (Luke 11:1, 5-8) What was the point of this illustration?
16 Jesus certainly did not mean that Jehovah is unwilling to help us. Rather, Christ wants us to trust God implicitly and to love him enough to pray without ceasing. Thus, Jesus continued: I say to you, Keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you. For everyone asking receives, and everyone seeking finds, and to everyone knocking it will be opened. (Luke 11:9, 10) Surely, then, we should keep praying when we experience persecution, distress over some deeply rooted personal weakness, or any other trial. Jehovah is always ready to help his faithful servants. He never tells us: Quit making me trouble.
17 If we are to enjoy a close relationship with God, we need his holy spirit, or active force. Hence, Jesus continued: Indeed, which father is there among you who, if his son asks for a fish, will perhaps hand him a serpent instead of a fish? Or if he also asks for an egg, will hand him a scorpion? Therefore, if you, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more so will the Father in heaven give holy spirit to those asking him! (Luke 11:11-13) Matthew 7:9-11 speaks of giving a stone instead of bread. The force of Jesus words is increased if we realize that the bread of ancient Bible lands was of a size and shape like that of a flat, round stone. Some kinds of serpents resemble certain types of fish, and there is a small white scorpion that somewhat resembles an egg. But if asked for bread, a fish, or an egg, what kind of father would give his child a stone, a serpent, or a scorpion?
18 Jesus next compared the dealings of an earthly parent with the actions of God toward the members of His family of worshipers. If we, though being more or less wicked because of inherited sinfulness, give good gifts to our children, how much more we should expect our heavenly Father to give the splendid gift of his holy spirit to his loyal servants who humbly ask for it!
19 Jesus words intimate that we should ask God for more of His holy spirit. If we are led by it, we will not complain about our lot in life and view trials and disappointments as being really injurious to us. (Jude 16) True, man, born of woman, is short-lived and glutted with agitation, and many have not lived to see the end of their problems or heartaches. (Job 14:1) But let us never view our trials as stones, serpents, and scorpions that the Hearer of prayer has somehow handed us. He is the very epitome of love and does not try anyone with evil things. Rather, he gives us every good gift and perfect present. Ultimately, he will make everything right for all who love and fear him. (James 1:12-17; 1 John 4:8) Those who have walked in the truth for years know from experience that some of their hardest trials have, through prayer and faith, worked out to their benefit and have increased the fruitage of Gods spirit in their lives. (3 John 4) In fact, in what better way could we learn dependence on our heavenly Father and be helped to cultivate the spirits fruitage of love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, and self-control?Galatians 5:22, 23.
20 Jesus words recorded at Luke 11:5-13 thus give us blessed assurance of Jehovahs love and tender care. This should fill our hearts with the deepest gratitude and love. It ought to strengthen our faith and increase our desire to go often to the footstool of the King Eternal and linger in his loving presence. Moreover, Jesus words assure us that we will never be turned away empty. Our heavenly Father is most pleased to have us throw our burdens upon him. (Psalm 55:22; 121:1-3) And when we, as his faithful dedicated servants, ask for his holy spirit, he gives it to us unstintingly. This is our loving God, and we can have full faith that he is the Hearer of our prayers.
Do You Recall?
Through whom must we approach God in prayer, and why?
In what way is prayer a restricted privilege?
What does it mean to pray with holy spirit?
How can you prove Scripturally that the prayers of Jehovahs faithful baptized Witnesses are heard?
[Study Questions]
1. Why should we expect Jehovah to have requirements for those desiring to approach him in prayer?
2. What questions arise on the subject of prayer?
3. What examples can you give of prayers offered by early servants of God, and did they approach him through an intermediary?
4. (a) What new approach to God in prayer was instituted in the first century? (b) Why is it especially appropriate that prayer be offered in Jesus name?
5. What is Gods attitude toward the world of mankind, and what bearing does this have on prayer?
6. With what attitude must Jehovah be approached in prayer?
7. What is the fear of Jehovah?
8. Why does God hear the prayers of those fearing him?
9, 10. Can unbaptized persons pray with the hope of being heard?
11. What has happened to some who were progressing toward dedication, and what should they ask themselves?
12. When can it be said that a person is praying with holy spirit?
13. If we pray with holy spirit, what will we avoid, and what counsel of Jesus will we apply?
14. What perceptive statements have some made regarding prayer?
15. In essence, what did Jesus say at Luke 11:5-8?
16. As regards prayer, what did Jesus want us to do?
17, 18. (a) How did Jesus encourage us to ask for holy spirit, and what increases the force of his words? (b) How did Jesus compare the dealings of an earthly parent with those of God?
19. (a) What is intimated by Jesus words recorded at Luke 11:11-13 and Matthew 7:9-11? (b) If we are led by holy spirit, how will we view our trials?
20. Jesus words recorded at Luke 11:5-13 should have what effect upon us?
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As human fathers give good gifts to their children, Jehovah gives holy spirit to those asking him
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What to do with those who abuse kids??
by JT ini'm sitting here in the serverroom freezing my buns off and the issue of the child abuser and what to do with him or her was being kicked around.
we got the standard shot the bastards in the head etc,.
should they get any treatment at all or should they just be shot?.
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hiya waiting,
I'm looking forward to reading the article if you find it. I'll be looking for it on freeminds myself, right along with you.
I do agree that taxpayers have to pay to keep CONVICTED child molesters in prison for life. But the way I see it is that it's worth the price when we all pitch in to protect our children.
I have tried to imagine if I would have a different view if I ever found that my own son or daughter were ever a convicted pedophile. would I want them to die? No. Would I want them to permenently be kept away from children? Yes.
Stastics show that many victims of child molestation end up to be child molesters themselves when they grow into adulthood. And that's what I meant by breaking the cycle.
If my child were a victim of a pedophile, I might have a whole different view than I have right now and want pedophiles shot. I don't know.
I'm just giving my opinion on reading and talking to many victims of child molesters, and what it has done to them.
At least taxpayers money is being well spent if it's spent on protecting innocent children any way they can.
peace,
gwen
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This board means more than you think.....
by Tatiana innovember 26 was my birthday.
i missed having people say happy birthday like they do when they know someone here is another year older.. minimus started a thread a while back, when i was here for a few days, about what this board means and if you thought the people here were your friends.
i've been here a while, and have told some of my stories to you, but i haven't been totally honest.
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((((April)))
It's great to have you back! It's common for us all to keep telling ourselves we are alright when we aren't. We feel as if we are somehow weak if we show that...hey,,things are rough right now and I'm NOT ok!". Whether it was ingrained in our brains that as JWs we were dictated that we "are the happiest poeple on earth" and if we weren't happy then we weren't loving God enough has anything to do with our embarassment and feeling like we are failures when we hit hard times, I don't know. But I'm so glad that you're ok and that you spent time talking and getting help from your doctor. They say that when it rains, it pours. Sounds like that is what happened to you!
You are by far not alone in the emotions that you felt when you were going through those extemely hard times. If you should ever feel like you can't go on any longer and the feelings of death are welcome, PLEASE try your hardest to speak up. There is so much real help not only out in the world, but here on Simon's board too. If there is one big lesson I've learned since leaving JWism, it's that people out here in the world who TRULY care and love others. It's not because they are instructed to show conditional love by a printing corporation's publication. It's because they feel a REAL love and have natural affection and empathy for one another.
I hope you've seen and learned that yourself...and I hope you and your boys are ok now.
peace to you,
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What to do with those who abuse kids??
by JT ini'm sitting here in the serverroom freezing my buns off and the issue of the child abuser and what to do with him or her was being kicked around.
we got the standard shot the bastards in the head etc,.
should they get any treatment at all or should they just be shot?.
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JT,
The watchtower's so-called"aggressive policy" on child abuse is anything but aggressive, and does NOTHING to protect innocent children who have no voice and are helpless without adults to protect them. While it DOES make it very easy for the offenders. It rates right up there with the watchtower publishing for victims of rape to "treat your rapist with respect".
Anyway.....My opinion is that convicted pedophiles should be locked away for life. By their actions towards children, they've basically "locked " their child victim up for life in the sence that they relive the abuse mentally forever. Pedophiles should be locked up for life because the rate of repeat offenders is HIGH. VERY HIGH if you research it. If they are not locked up, the the chances that they will victimize another child is way to high. The only way to break the cycle is to keep them away from children, short of death, is to lock them in prison for the rest of their lives.
Meanwhile, I pray every day that the FBI investigates the files at the watchtower society. because there is probably many pedophiles who are free to keep abusing one child after another because of their rediculous their must- be-two-witnesses rule. That combined with thier advice to wait on jehovah and printing information on how to stall if authorities come and want to see the congreagation files is protecting themselves and thier own reputation instead of their protection of the children in congregations world wide.
Every ALLEGED child molester should be automatically reported to the police ( no matter what state it happened in ) to be investigated. The "wordly" authorities care enough about children to investigate more than the watchtowers investingation of "it's the childs word against the adult abuser" and if there where no witnesses, then NOTHING more can be done , congregationally, and now we just wait on Jehovah". They call that an investigation!
Just my opinion on the subject
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gwen
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Upset
by Vivamus ini am like an emotional screw up.
i am like a 17 year old with no ability to take harsh words in.
they upset me.
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((((((Viv)))))))
Amongst all the great advice you got here, I'd like to add that it is not you who is being selfish in any way. Seeing as how your dad was totaly out of line in what he said and in inturrupting you when you tried to explain your feelings, then you can always write him a letter stating what you did here. he can't interrupt you that way and he'll have time to read how you feel and to reflect on it. and PLEASE include how he has made you feel with his harsh words. This way he has to hear you.
You're a wonderful caring person. It's your dad who is being selfish and "acting like an ass" as Crazy151Drinker said, not you!
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Looking for a book for my family
by Elsewhere ini have been looking for a book to send to my biological family.
so far most have been about someone who was abused and therefore drawn to the organization and later disillusioned.
i am was a third generation jw, which means that even my parents were born into it and is all they really know.
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Hi Elswhere,
Another book ( along with all the others that have been listed) is Scripture Twisting, by James Sire.
It's only 177 pages long, but I find it helpful. It lists 20 ways that cults misread the bible with plenty of common sence explainations of what the scriptures really mean.
Just one more to add your book buying binge!
peace,
gwen
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Screwing up folks lives
by JT inthis is an amplification and adjustment in understanding of what appears in the watchtower of november 15, 1974, pages 703-704, and of february 15, 1978, pages 30-32. those who acted on the basis of the knowledge they had at the time are not to be criticized.
nor would this affect the standing of a person who in the past believed that a mates perverted sexual conduct within marriage amounted to porneia and, hence, obtained a divorce and is now remarried.
with this one little footnote in the wt it wiped out folks very lives- notice they refer to such a major doctrinal shift as an "amplification and adjustment in understanding".
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Whether you still believe the Bible or not, you can't refute the fact that the Bible itself shows that those ones who shoulder the duties as teachers of God's Word would err, and as a result of such misunderstandings refinements would become necessary. Have you never read Daniel 11:35....
Yadirf,
Then the wbts FALSELY CLAIM that they have "accurate" knowlege of the Bible and for one to speak negatively or show disrespect for themselves or any other 'fellow imperfect humans" who they have appointed is and act of disloyalty to God himself. They have NO AUTHORITY or right to make ANY RULES and symbolically hand other fellow humans over to Satan for not obeying their rules. Knowing that they are going to err. They are FALSE teachers ina every way possible. They FALSELY TEACH that only associates of their organization can gain salvation. And all THEY can do is find fault with other religions.
What they teach as supposed teachings of God is destroying many many many many of their followers lives. They will have to pay the price for exhaulting themselves and for becoming so puffed up with pride and for all their greed.
peace,
gwen/somebody
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Screwing up folks lives
by JT inthis is an amplification and adjustment in understanding of what appears in the watchtower of november 15, 1974, pages 703-704, and of february 15, 1978, pages 30-32. those who acted on the basis of the knowledge they had at the time are not to be criticized.
nor would this affect the standing of a person who in the past believed that a mates perverted sexual conduct within marriage amounted to porneia and, hence, obtained a divorce and is now remarried.
with this one little footnote in the wt it wiped out folks very lives- notice they refer to such a major doctrinal shift as an "amplification and adjustment in understanding".
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JT,
I can only imagine just how many people lives were ruined for believing that the society's rules were actually scriptual. The society doesn't get any better as the years pass either. In fact, the progressively get worse and progressively hunger and demand more power. The are in NO WAY humble, loving, or caring for their own followers. As a matter of fact, they come right out in the kingdom ministry and insult their own followers by telling them they can only merely "locate" scriptures and explain simple doctrine of their sect. The FIRST thing the instruct their followers is to direct , RIGHT FROM INITIAL CONTACT, any intested people to themselves/organization. NOT the bible. I agree with others who say that JWs have a Watchtower trained conscience and NOT A BIBLE trained conscience.
This is from a kingdom ministry from April, 1993 that PROVE that the only motive or concern of the wbts is to gain more publishers and not more disciples.
" Direct Interest to the Organization: From our initial contact with interested persons, we should be directing their attention to the organization. While we may be able personally to locate scriptures and explain fundamental doctrines, we are not the source of such knowledge. Everything we have learned has come from the organization, channeled through the slave class that supplies "food at the proper time." (Matt. 24:45-47) From the start, new ones need to realize that pure worship involves more than just us or even the local congregation; there is an organized, theocratic, worldwide society operating under Jehovah's direction.
4 The direction we receive originates with Jehovah, who has promised to guide and teach us. (Ps. 32:8; Isa. 54:13) This instruction is disseminated primarily through our literature. If we can help interested ones develop a high regard for the literature, recognizing it as a source of lifesaving instruction, they will be far more likely to read and apply its message than to discard it quickly. We should always present and use this literature in a way that cultivates respect for it. This teaches new ones to appreciate the organization and to rely upon its provisions."That is step one in the process instructing their brainwashed followers to start brainwashing people that they meet at doors who show interest int the BIBLE. Only later on in the article does the soceity mention the Bible.
And if you think they have got any better, they haven't. Take a look at these few teachings that most DEFINATELY ruin the lives of "it's" followers!
Read them and everyoine here just think about how you would feel as a brainwashed watchtower follower.
one thought out of many that have gone through my head is, If I were a JW and one of my loved ones or loved friend was going through "extreme spousal abuse", would I NOT pressure her or him to separate? Of course I would!!! It is a matter of life or death!
Here is some present "ACCURATE KNOWLEGE" from the JWs human leaders.
and of all the books for this to be published in, it's the family Happiness Book.
Published in 1996 !!
Family Happiness book Chapter 13 If Marriage Is at the Breaking Point
20" In all cases of extreme spousal abuse, no one should put pressure on the innocent mate either to separate or to stay with the other.
w99 8/15 31
"A man infected with syphilis, genital herpes, HIV, or another serious communicable disease might marry without revealing that fact. Maybe his infection was contracted through sexual immorality before or during the engagement. The wife's later learning of his disease or past immorality (even of sterility or impotence) does not change the fact that they are now married. An unsavory past before the wedding is not a Scriptural basis for ending the marriage any more than if she had contracted some disease or even was concealing a pregnancy by another man when marrying. They are married now and have committed themselves to each other."
3/15/83 AWAKE !
"Thus, a mate's enforcing perverted acts, such as oral or anal sex, within the marriage would not constitute a Scriptural basis for a divorce that would free either for remarriage. Even though a believing mate is distressed by the situation, yet that one's endeavor to hold to Scriptural principles will result in a blessing from Jehovah."
Notice this phrase.."a mate's ENFORCING perverted acts, such as oral or anal sex"
I do see something wrong with a spouse FORCING any sexual act on their mate! that is called marital rape".
It's sickening how when the wbts make changes they are called adjustments 95% of the time or "minor changes" and all there followers need to "adjust their thinking" to the wbts's instruction, but yet they print articles saying that a simple change in Catholics such as they can now eat meat on fridays is supposed to "deeply disturb" them into leaving their religion. The WBTS should stand for The Watchtower Bullshit Telling Slimeballs. That best describes their organization in my opinion.
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Final update on she left?
by Yerusalyim ini put a question mark on this cuz i don't know where to turn.
i have confirmed and she has admitted to three affairs in our eight years of marriage.
i don't know if i could ever trust her again.
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waiting { I still love that name and it's meaning! }
What Somebody said is true....it takes two. I've been through a divorce - and he cheated mightily, and was scum to boot, but it still took me 12 years to leave.
Took me 18 years. I don't regret it though. For myself and my children, it was the right thing to do. Might not for others, depending on their situation. But I have no regrets for what I put up with in the past.
peace,
somebody