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  Legal question

  by kenpodragon in

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  i work in a business that sometimes has teenagers purchasing or renting items from us.

  when they do so, we have to have a parent or legal guardian make the arrangements or sign any binding agreements.

  if we didn't, nothing would be worth the paper it was written on, as people under 18 can not enter into a legal arrangement on their own.. .

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  Swan

  I have often wondered about that myself since I was only 15 when I stupidly made that decision. I was so young and foolish. I always figured that because it wasn't an actual contract on paper, only a verbal agreement at D'strict Convention, it wouldn't hold up in court. Also, as a religious organization, they have the right to choose to associate or exclude any person they want.

  One thing I have wondered about though, and that is religious discrimination in the workplace. If a JW coworker treats you poorly in the workplace because you are shunned, isn't that a form of religious discrimination? I worked at a place with JWs before. At my current worksite, I tend to keep it quiet that I was raised in a religious cult, but a few friends do know. If a JW should come to work there and it should become common knowledge that I was an xJW, would I have any recourse if that person started treating me in a hostile manner in the workplace?

  Tammy
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  Seattle silentlambs Press Conference Video now up!

  by Trauma_Hound in

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  http://www.seattle-chat.com/video - the komo tv 4 interview.. i will have a behind the scenes video up soon also.

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  Thank you Trauma Hound! That was very well done.
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  "It bit me in the bum"

  by Mimilly in

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  posted at 3:06 am edt friday, september 6. .

  you reap what you sow.

  canadian press.

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  Swan

  "It bit me in the bum"

  What a coincidence! I said the exact same thing about my involvement with the WTBTS!

  Tammy
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  Feeling pretty grateful right about now

  by bigboi in

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  well, i guess u can say that i've dodged the proverbial bullet.

  now only if i could've dodged that damn rim yesterday!.

  yesterday at work a tire and rim application that i had been workin on came apart under about 60 lbs of pressure and smacked me right in the face.

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  I'm so sorry to hear about what happened but so glad that it wasn't more serious. As bad as it was, a freak accident like that can have devastating consequences. You are so fortunate it wasn't totaly debilitating or death dealing. We are fortunate not to have lost you. Rest, heal, take your time, and get on the mend.

  Z

  Tammy
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  finally got the nerve

  by livingagain in

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  i have been reading posts here for several months, which has helped me to keep from going insane.

  my doubts came when i finally got the nerve to leave a bad marriage, why did i stay so long.

  because i was ashamed and really scared of what "jehovah" would think of me.

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  WELCOME LivingAgain! t

  This took a lot of courage for you to post and you made it through that, you will make it through what is ahead too. Soon you will realize that you do have lots of friends. I don't know what city you are in, but there are probably people close by who have been through the same thing you are going through. You are not alone. Thousands have been through what you have and have survived. We are here because we are still dealing with these same issues and also because we care about others who have been hurt by the lies. You are welcome here and you are safe here.

  Tammy

  Edited to fix font problems. Tried to post flowers, but it didn't work.

  Edited by - Swan on 6 September 2002 23:38:15
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  Barely hanging on

  by joelbear in

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  i am just barely hanging on to my sanity again.

  going through one of my terrible.

  panicky periods.

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  Swan

  (((((JOEL!)))))

  Sometimes it takes several trips to the doctor to get the right meds and the right dosage. Just hang in there until you find the right ones. They work wonders. Lean upon your friends. That's what we are here for. Build up a network of support. Here. Your local friends. Your partner. Do you have a counselor? Even with meds you sometimes have to work with a counselor to get to the root of the problem. Just take it a day at a time until your doctor finds the right meds.

  Take comfort that there are many here who care and who have been through similar pain! Know that you have been an inspiration to me. I'm sure there are others who feel the same way. Hang on!

  Tammy a
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  Dog bites minister, is spared death sentence

  by ashitaka in

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  dog bites minister, is spared death sentence.

  canadian press.

  winnipeg a dog that bit a jehovah's witness minister after she ignored beware of dog signs has been spared a death sentence by a winnipeg court.. piotr skawinski, the dog's owner, testified he had two visible warning signs up the day that ethel mannetje walked into his back yard.. he also said his six-year-old labrador-german shepherd cross named boss has never bitten anyone before and is good with children.. "for the court to put my dog to sleep because he was in his own boundaries and somebody stepped into it, not paying attention, i think that's just bad," mr. skawinski said.. "for a lady that's been going door to door for i don't know how many years and still hasn't learned to look for a beware of dog sign i don't know what the lady was thinking.".

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  Smart dog. Went for the juiciest and best part!
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  LOCAL NEEDS TALKS, ANY YOU REMEMBER?

  by minimus in

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  one of the best tools the elders have to counsel the congregation is the local needs part.

  how does one usually get picked for this talk?

  generally, during an elder's meeting, one elder will have his pet peeve.he convinces the body that this issue has to be handled by the body.

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  I remember one. It was after a case where a brother, whose wife was bedridden, had been publically reproved for molesting his granddaughters. The public needs talked centered on the duty of Christian wives in always submitting to the sexual demands of their husbands so as not to cause the husband to have to seek release from other sources. Wives should not withhold the marital due, or this might cause their husbands to stumble.

  I'll never forget that one. Grrrr!

  Tammy
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  Dream of Going Back

  by professor in

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  i awoke from sleep about a half hour ago from a dream in which i returned to the witnesses.

  i had become so upset from losing my family and friends that i decided to return and seek reinstatement even though secretly in my heart i did not believe (i was trying to fool the elders).. i awoke from the dream with illusions of actually following through with this idea.

  it took me about 5 minutes to arrive at reality.

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  I have dreams about that too. I'm at the KH or circus assembly or d'strict convention and at first I am going through the motions. Usually it is some silly attempt to appease my family. I know it won't work and feel trapped. Years ago I was feeling very panicky about it and woke up very upset.

  Now when I dream it I find it very stressful and hectic at first. Then I begin to realize that I don't have to do what they say. I don't have to sing or sit through the meeting. I get up and go to some other part of meeting/assembly watching and observing them. I begin to feel detached from it all, and it becomes a lot less stressful. I realize that I can leave whenever I want and they can't do a thing to stop me. I can just get in my car and drive away. They get real upset when I don't follow their rules. I begin to feel more empowered. I actually begin to enjoy the dream as I start to regain control of my life back.

  Hopefully you will all get to that place soon if you haven't already.

  Tammy
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  Shunned father's daughter dies

  by Rado Vleugel in

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  the 17-year-old jehovah's witness daughter of shunned father died thursday of leukemia.

  read this sad story and previous stories on http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/.

  rado vleugeledited by - rado vleugel on 6 september 2002 1:55:36.

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  Mimilly, I agree:

  The ONLY one I feel saddened for is the father, and a teenager who should've never been put in that position.

  I am deeply saddened by this turn of events and want to express my condolences and deepest sympathies to Shunned Father. I am so sorry for your loss.

  Tammy