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  Hello all; helping those in the org

  by stapler99 in

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  i've been lurking for a while so thought i'd introduce myself.

  i'm in my late teens and left the jws just before i left home.

  i used to know what absolute belief was, but never got baptised because i didn't feel any love for god.

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  Welcome Stapler99!
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  shunning addressed on Big Love tonight

  by candidlynuts in

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  i was freaking out!.

  barbs mother wont see her but sent barbs sister to pick up the kids so they could visit the kids.. of course, they push their own religious beliefs on the kids while they have them.. gawd jw flashbacks were hitting me!

  hope some of you see the episode so we can talk about it!.

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  I saw it! It seemed to focus on the baptism theme a lot, but it also focused on moral choices. It sure contrasted the morality of Barb's polygamy with the morality of Cindy (and Mom's) shunning. Barb couldn't even go into the house. And torn between her two families, Barb finally made a decision about who her real family was. I loved Nicki telling off Cindy. She has a lot of faults, but the way she stood up for Barb was so cool. Ben's morality was in conflict with his girlfriend's morality, and then he succumbed and now feels great remorse for a momentary (literally) pleasure (poor kid). Sarah and Margene's morality was called into question as polygamists.

  Margene seems to have found her compass though, and she finally stuck up for Nicki against judgmental Pam and told her goodbye.

  Wasn't it creepy how Roman and his minions knew when Bill and Joey went to visit Brother Halloway? And the phone was left off the hook so Roman and the NSA could listen in. Did you catch that Brother Halloway's first name was Earnest? And then later he told Bill how his grandfather Orville was such a great prophet and how Roman had changed everything. Kind of reminded me of Russell and Rutherford.

  Tammy
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  I feel bad :(

  by Elsewhere in

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  i've been feeling bad the last few days... like a bad cold.

  *** cough - cough - sniff *** .

  on thursday i went to my doctor and she ordered a ct scan of my sinuses.

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  So sorry you have to go through this. It sounds like quite an ordeal. I hope the doctors mend you up as quickly and painlessly as possible.

  Tammy
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  HOLY SHYTE!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLY SHYTE!!!!!!!!!!! ATTN LOST FANS!

  by kittyeatzjdubs in

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  dude!.

  did you just see tonights episode??

  ?...i just finished watching.... that was fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc&%^$#d up!!!!!!!!!!

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  ? When Ana Lucia started telling Mr. Eko to look for the question mark in his dream, I remembered the picture Elsewhere posted of the map on the back of the blast door. The ? was right in the middle! Sure enough, that was what they ended up finding. So I got that part right, but then once again there were a lot more questions raised than were answered.

  The psychic father who told Mr. Eko he was a fake and that his daughter wasn't really dead, just hibernating from the cold cold water... wasn't he the psychic that told Claire about her baby and gave her the ticket on flight 815? Is he really a fake psychic, or was he just saying that to dissuade Mr. Eko from taking an interest in his daughter. His daughter knew to go to see Mr. Eko at the airport boarding flight 815. Is she some sort of psychic too?

  Did I see correctly that Mr. Eko's birth date was August 23. They didn't show it very long on the screen, but it was in his passport, wasn't it. 8/23 Two of Hurley's numbers. Was that correct? Did I see that correctly?

  How did Mr. Eko's brother, his name escapes me for the moment, get into John's dream? WOW! Where did John's map get sucked to?

  Tammy
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  Hey All

  by Mr.X in

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  i just wanna say hi to all and let everyone know a little about me.... i have stopped going to the hall after going my whole life, i havent been to the hall in over 2 years but i went to the memorial this year.

  my dad is currently an elder and my whole family is still into it.

  it makes it hard when your dads an elder i had to move out early because i didnt want my dad to be taken down as an elder.

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  Welcome Mr.X!
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  Hello

  by EyesOpened in

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  my parents became jw's in 1972 - i was 6 yrs old.

  i followed their lead, baptized at 15, regular pioneer at 19, ms at 21, elder at 27. have given district and circuit talks, tms overseer yada, yada, yada... .

  last september i stopped and haven't looked back.

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  Welcome EyesOpened!

  I feel betrayed for 34 years, feel abandoned by all of my so called friends - who have yet to call or talk to me to ask me why I do not go to meetings anymore... The Elders keep leaving me messages asking me why I am doing this and why don't I just write a letter of DA and "let it happen" so I don't continue to hurt the friends' feelings... the feelings I have for JW's are of disgust and hurt right now - they have ruined my parents family - my 2 sisters are DF'd and I have just recently started talking to them again - why did I submit to the "shunning" for all those years? My parents are so sad - why? because they miss their children - but have to stay "loyal" to Jehovah's organization... what nonsense.

  We have all gone through this or are going through it. You are not alone. I sense your mixed emotions in your post and want you to know that it is okay to feel what you are feeling. As JWs we were told not only how to think, but how to feel. You don't have to feel a certain way about anything any more. Just feel what you feel. Betrayal, anger, sadness, sorrow... it is all a normal to feel those when coming out of a cult.

  Tammy
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  Have you seen this JW video clip? too funny!

  by ButtLight in

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  ok, i dont believe they are really jw's, just by what they say.

  but its funny anyway!

  i think the guys doing the taping assumed they were, or its set up!.

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  I didn't think it was all that funny. Maybe too many confrontations in my life going from door-to-door to be anything but afraid and uncomfortable with it.

  Tammy
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  Anger over disfellowshipping

  by jambon1 in

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  i have now spoken with a couple of worldly people regarding the practise of disfellowshipping.

  having been out of the org for a few months i now feel confident enough to expose the things that i knew were wrong.

  d/f was one of the biggest issues i had.

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  He murdered his entire family and then killed himself.

  That was Longo, no?

  No, it was a family named Bryant. Longo was the other case that happened around that time. Longo is in prison awaiting the death sentence.
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  Pet Hates. What are Yours?!!!

  by Spectrum in

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  some mindless fun!

  hoovering.

  really hate this one.

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  Iguanas. Can't understand why anyone would want one. It just sits there in the terrarium and looks ugly. Give me a cuddly cat or dog any day.

  Tammy
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  Anger over disfellowshipping

  by jambon1 in

  1. watchtower
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  i have now spoken with a couple of worldly people regarding the practise of disfellowshipping.

  having been out of the org for a few months i now feel confident enough to expose the things that i knew were wrong.

  d/f was one of the biggest issues i had.

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  Anyway, I have spoken in detail as to how it all works & the effects that it has on people. One person just sat stunned as I explained what happens. I did this in the fairest way that I possibly could. No hate or malice. I just told the facts. This person, I believe, was absolutely shocked that this happens regularly to people all over the civilised world. He was preofoundly effected by what I told him, & saddened. He too is a parent.

  The other person again sat in shocked disbelief. At the end of our discussion I highlighted how I just could not have treated my own family in the required WTS way. She agreed and said the words "I`d rather rip my heart out".

  I get the same reaction when I tell people about this practice. Most people can't fathom how on Earth this could happen, and it really puts the JWs in a bad light. I don't have to do anything other than just explain the facts and they are shocked that the JW faith believes this way. In their minds it is similar to child sacrifice, witch burning, and other archaic religious practices.

  A few years ago our local news covered the fact that JWs practice shunning. It was related to a disfellowshipped man who was believed this was done unjustly. He murdered his entire family and then killed himself. To the reporters it was big, shocking news, and you could tell that they had no clue that this was going on in their very community. After years of reporting fluff pieces about two-day Kingdom Halls, these reporters were seeing a completely different side of JWs.

  After growing up thinking this was "normal" behavior, it is good to have validation from real normal people that this is truly an extreme and bizarre practice.

  Tammy