Ignore what I just said. Proper DF etiquette is that DFed people are not supposed to talk to each other. So pretend I didn't say any thing. Move along... nothing to see here... move along...
Tammy
looking back, i realize the stigma attached to df'ed and da'ed people, its as if they're supposed to be there and not there at the same time.
they're supposed to be extremely unhappy and hopeless.
when you see a df'ed person everything in their life is supposed to be going wrong because "they dont have jehovah in their lives" and when theres a df'ed person who doesnt fit the category they're hated even more.. there's a df'ed person in my congregation, i remember years ago (before i started posting here) i used to absolutely detest the sight of this guy.
Ignore what I just said. Proper DF etiquette is that DFed people are not supposed to talk to each other. So pretend I didn't say any thing. Move along... nothing to see here... move along...
Tammy
looking back, i realize the stigma attached to df'ed and da'ed people, its as if they're supposed to be there and not there at the same time.
they're supposed to be extremely unhappy and hopeless.
when you see a df'ed person everything in their life is supposed to be going wrong because "they dont have jehovah in their lives" and when theres a df'ed person who doesnt fit the category they're hated even more.. there's a df'ed person in my congregation, i remember years ago (before i started posting here) i used to absolutely detest the sight of this guy.
Half way through reading this thread one word popped in my head, cattle.
Unless they're sheep, in which case they need sheep dip. Tammy
i have been reading a book my hubby recommended to me- man's search for meaning - by viktor frankl.
very good book.
he is a survivor of nazi concentration camps and it's not just another grisly tale of horrors of cc life.
I have heard about this book. My counselor told me it was very good and that it may be helpful to me. I will have to add it to my book list.
Thanks!
Tammy
another post from a newbie(who has been lurking around here for a couple of years now).. my story is nothing exciting really.
i grew up pretty much from the age of 3 or 4 in the jw religion.
my parents both became witnesses at that time, then after a couple of years, my mother "saw the light", and stopped going, but my father dragged my sister and i along with him for many years to come.
Welcome Life Is Grand!
That was pretty much it-from then on, I lived my "worldly" life-made many mistakes along the way(a very bad and abusive marriage was the biggest one).....
Many JW wives have the same problem. The key is that you were free to make your own mistakes and to correct them without the WTBTS interfering!
Tammy
i was in class and by these two women (one who was a christian and the other student i am unsure of).
i asked them, randomly, "do you know much about jehovah's witnesses?
" -- they both said "yes" and the non-christian said "i had a jw friend and he really hated it... he disaproved of what they taught" -- i started to talk about shunning and disfellowship.
I guess... I really need to talk to someone... not my parents, JWs, ex-JWs, but a conselor or something
I am pretty stressed right now... with graduation, pressure from JW teacher, friends-- sorry, I know it matters none.
I am sorry you are going through so much. A counselor would be a good thing. Have your doctor refer you to a psychiatrist or call your county health department for a referral. I hope you do follow through with this. You are a very conflicted individual and I think this is taking a great toll on you. You don't have to be unhappy in life. You can get better if you put forth a little effort to get some real help, but there are no easy answers like the JWs would have you believe. Be Well Elizabeth! Tammy
i'm closer to my mom than ever before.
but all the other witness family stays away.
Family? What family?
Tammy
yesterday my ex-boyfriend came into town, several months ago who moved away and we had to break off our relationship.
the relationship was rocky; however, before he was going to move, so it was easy to let him go.
we reconciled as he was away and we are good friends.
What are you doing here Elizabeth?
Why are you trying to convert people at school and your ex-boyfriend to Watchtower teachings while you come here?
Did you show your ex-boyfriend this site so that he could get both sides of the story? If not, what did he ever do to you that you want to deceive him like this?
And haven't you heard our warnings? Haven't you paid any attention to our advice to seek a counselor?
Go make that call, and don't talk to another single person about the Watchtower until you get your own house in order.
After you have done your homework and gone to therapy, then if you still choose to go join the JWs, then go for it. It's your life. Ruin it as you see fit. I think you will be making a big mistake, but it is your right to make it. I support your right to make it, but only when you are fully informed about both sides.
But until then, don't involve people in a group that you are having doubts about yourself. That is a really mean thing to do.
Be Well, Elizabeth.
Tammy
i hope all of you genx-r exjw will get a kick out of this story from my childhood.
i was just talking to jt and he says i should post it..... my daughter is studying wwi history in school.
i told her that when i was in 10th grade, i had a social studies teacher named nancy galbraith.
I had to think way back for a lot of this, but here goes.
In grade school my mother was always pressuring me to use the magazines for my reports. The teachers let me get away with it, and only graded me on format, punctuation, grammar, and spelling. They should have nipped it in the bud!
In fifth grade we had a sharing library where students should bring their favorite books for the whole class to benefit. Emboldened by my mother and good grades for my papers, I brought a Troof book.
In seventh grade, we started studying Greek mythology in social sciences, and evolution in science. I carried my little blue Evolution book with me from class to class and read it on breaks. My teachers didn't say anything, but they sure gave me some weird looks. I couldn't understand why.
Later in the year I quoted from an Awake on sleep and the nature of dreams for a science paper. I even put a paragraph in the conclusion about how soon the sleep of death would be a thing of the past and all people asleep in their graves would wake up and come to live. The teacher started questioning the science part, asking where I had gotten this information, as it seemed out of touch with current medical research.
In college (community college) I yielded to the pressure of a brother who told me to use my writing class as a way to reach the teacher with the Troof. All through the class I wrote about everything else and had an A. Our last paper was on a controversy. The teacher wanted me to go ahead and do the paper as an exercise even though I had already gotten an A for the class. I wrote about the persecution of people in Malawi and got a B for the class. That's right. My paper was so bad she marked me down a whole grade!
I went to the teacher and reminded her that I had an A up until then and she was the one who said to do the paper as an exercise. I got my A for the class, but my teacher didn't say another word to me, and we had gotten along well until then. I finally learned a valuable lesson and never brought up my crazy religion at school again.
Tammy
i hope all of you genx-r exjw will get a kick out of this story from my childhood.
i was just talking to jt and he says i should post it..... my daughter is studying wwi history in school.
i told her that when i was in 10th grade, i had a social studies teacher named nancy galbraith.
Those teachers were just upset because they paid thousands to go to college for 4 years and here comes along this student with these magazines that would have given them the college education for a fraction of the cost in time and money!
Tammy
dude!.
did you just see tonights episode??
?...i just finished watching.... that was fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc&%^$#d up!!!!!!!!!!
I think, after last night's episode, that my pet theory that Michael an Walt are leaving the show in the finale is more certain than ever. Michael has asked to not only get Walt back, but for the boat. Michael has certainly burned his bridges with the group by killing Ana Lucia and Libby, and leading Jack, Hugo, Sawyer, and Freckles (I love that nickname) into what looks certainly like a trap. This would resolve that issue as well as a problem the show has faced from day one...
For every month or two of story time on the island, a whole year (a TV season) passes in the real world. How do you keep a child actor from aging two years in the course of what is three or four months of story time? Walt is definitely getting taller. They can keep substituting younger babies to play Aaron, and nobody will notice, but Walt is a pivotal character, and the real life actor who portrays him, Malcolm David Kelley, just turned 14 this month. They have limited his time on the show this year with the kidnapping plot, but how much longer can they keep doing that?
Tammy