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  2024*S*147**A&R

  by Atlantis in

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  a&r means announcements and reminders.. 2024**s*147. here:.

  https://pdfhost.io/v/diikuykdl_untitled_1 .

  petra!

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  KerryKing

  Thank you!

  What are these large construction projects I wonder? Poor kids who sign up, may their parents have the sense to dissuade them!
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  Experiences After Leaving

  by Freeatlast2024 in

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  i am writing to ask if anyone cares to share their experience and/or offer advice for people leaving.

  i was raised in the religion, and both my parents died when i was very young.

  i recently stopped associating because my conscience no longer allows me to preach or support the organization.

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  Read as much as you can from various authors to strip your mind of JW teachings, I'm sure everyone here can recommend a book that helped them. It will help you to make new friends and connections once you no longer see yourself as different, you're not different, the JWs made you think that, what we all carried with us to some extent is trauma. But many people carry trauma, from abusive relationships, bullying at school and work, and so on. Meaning that you will find people in the 'world' with experiences similar to yours, and feelings like yours.

  Joining local classes, art/dance/exercise/gardening, a gym, community clean ups (like town/beach etc), a local school for adults/college evening classes and courses are all ways to meet new people who have at least that interest in common with you.

  You can still pray, you may choose to drop the name Jehovah because of the religious associations, and just use Father, Heavenly Father, Abba etc. Whatever feels right to you.

  I personally found Eric Wilson's book very eye opening, How They Shut The Door to the Kingdom of God. Others will recommend Franz's book, I can't remember the title, I didn't read it yet but it's on my list!

  This forum is great for at least virtually meeting others who have lived your experiences and they will understand you.

  May you find true community, and joy, and meaning. Much love x
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  Why did God give the Ministry of Reconciliation (Justification) to the apostles instead of the Kingdom message?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why did god give the ministry of reconciliation (justification) to the apostles when starting churches rather that the kingdom message in matt.

  24: 14 that jesus spoke about?

  2 cor.

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  Mmm I'm only just after reading a couple of Crossans books but have not read anything where he says Jesus was not crucified and resurrected. Not sure where the eaten by dogs comes from, I've also been told by Baptists that he doesn't believe Christ was resurrected. Again, he doesn't say that in the books I've read so far. Quite the opposite. His other books could be terrible I suppose, these days, I go by what I read, not rumours. 😁

  JWs don't preach the good news of the kingdom, or any good news at all. They preach mass destruction and death, a small group of old white American men go to heaven, and the group they've successfully brain washed inherit the earth. I should know, I was guilty of it myself for far too long.
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  2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a change to their doctrine came from jackson.

  this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.

  but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.

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  I wonder is that why they set up the Irish hedge funds. They know the Nations have signed an agreement with the UN recently, where they all have to fall in step with each other regarding future pandemics etc.

  Whether they believe they'll be 'attacked' or simply legislated out of business, they've transferred all their dollars and real estate to foreign companies so they got a comfortable nest egg for themselves, whatever the future holds.
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  Why did God give the Ministry of Reconciliation (Justification) to the apostles instead of the Kingdom message?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why did god give the ministry of reconciliation (justification) to the apostles when starting churches rather that the kingdom message in matt.

  24: 14 that jesus spoke about?

  2 cor.

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  KerryKing

  I meant to add, it was fulfilled in the 1st century.
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  Why did God give the Ministry of Reconciliation (Justification) to the apostles instead of the Kingdom message?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why did god give the ministry of reconciliation (justification) to the apostles when starting churches rather that the kingdom message in matt.

  24: 14 that jesus spoke about?

  2 cor.

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  KerryKing

  The witnesses would dislike that 😁

  Personally I think Jesus end times prophecies refer to the end of the world as the Jews knew it, their world, their capital city, their temple and way of life, and it was preached in all the Roman world, which was the only world they knew and understood. Jesus only preached to the Jews in his ministry, so his words about their future was for them mainly.

  Of course I could be totally wrong, that's just how I read it at the moment.
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  Why did God give the Ministry of Reconciliation (Justification) to the apostles instead of the Kingdom message?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why did god give the ministry of reconciliation (justification) to the apostles when starting churches rather that the kingdom message in matt.

  24: 14 that jesus spoke about?

  2 cor.

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  KerryKing

  I think it is because Jesus brought the reconciliation meal (himself ) to God's people, and invited them to sit at the table with God.

  The apostles didn't bring the meal, it was already there, they had to keep extending the invitation, outwards to Gentiles as well as Jews living abroad.

  John Dominic Crossan explains it really well, and very different from all Christian churches, in his book The First Paul.
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  The World Today

  by peacefulpete in

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  2. friends

  i've been meaning to share some recent experiences that defy the usual tropes about the 'world gone to hell' or 'people now days".. as some of you may remember i was seriously ill for a while and had to close my business and shop.

  now, as it seems i have beaten it, i put up a sign again advertising that in a limited way i'm back.. what amazes me is how many times over the past 2 years customers and even competition have written and called to express their concern and best wishes.

  just last week i had a personal visit of someone who i thought of as a rival, come in and shake my hand sincerely happy to see me up and around.

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  I am so sorry to hear of your loss Phizzy, I hope your health improves xx

  When I was leaving the org some 15 years ago I was warned about how bad the world is, that worldly people would 'devour' me. Granted, I was a naive young one so I can now see their apprehension!

  But when I was homeless, complete strangers housed me in their own home, 'worldly' friends let me use their home to wash my laundry and to shower, helped me fix my car so I could get to work and back on my feet. None of them judged me, that is what really hit me!

  As an ex JW I brace myself still for the judgement of people, but most of the time it doesn't come.

  Those people you mention, they're the kind Jesus and Paul meant when they spoke of people who would be motivated by love, not by works.

  JWs are taught that that the way to salvation is to work for it, they don't read the Bible or research outside of WT books so they cannot learn the truth.

  I've recently discovered Dr John Dominic Crossan's books by a recommendation on this forum, they are brilliantly written, not too scholarly yet with vast historical and linguistic context which has made the NT come alive for me.

  I highly recommend reading his book on the lord's prayer and The First Paul for an instant uplift in mood!
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  THE PROBLEM WITH THESE 2 NEW GB MEMBERS APPOINTMENTS

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/rjr0ugtu6zu?si=d3zsz20ee33gytxi.

  these new appointments are troubling, to say the least, especially considering the factors surrounding their selection.

  these appointments raise key concerns about leadership, experience, and what is happening behind the scenes at the organization's headquarters.

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  KerryKing

  The term Governing Body is a corporate term, their 501c3 regulations state that they have to have a GB, so it's a legal thing, actually nothing at all to do with anything biblical whatsoever.

  They can use that to explain the non anointed appointments whenever it suits them to do so, and fall back on a separate faithful slave when the need arises. I think they left themselves an escape clause.
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  THE PROBLEM WITH THESE 2 NEW GB MEMBERS APPOINTMENTS

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/rjr0ugtu6zu?si=d3zsz20ee33gytxi.

  these new appointments are troubling, to say the least, especially considering the factors surrounding their selection.

  these appointments raise key concerns about leadership, experience, and what is happening behind the scenes at the organization's headquarters.

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  KerryKing

  I wonder whether it is their overlords, the Master with the money, as opposed to their supposed Master, God, who are actually behind these additions, as well as the recent companies started up in Ireland.