My kids have to sit through meal time prayers at the grandparents house when they visit, they tel me it's always the same prayer.
So much for not repeating the same thing over and over like the nations do.
i was recently in the company of a jw.
this is a long time devout jw and i served them a meal.
i was surprised by their reaction, they simply sat down, grabbed a fork and began shoveling???
https://youtu.be/sbh213gbedo?si=ceeaip451t6i0zjp.
so as they say one picture is as strong as a thousand words and here you have it guys in the latest study edition of the watchtower for october 2024 that has just been posted on their website a middle aged jw window cleaner dreaming of the new system where things will get better.
why does the watchtower need to talk now about jws on minial self employed jobs?
Actually, in my country menual jobs like window cleaning pays quite well, several jws i know who are in the cleaning business own their own homes, go on holidays abroad etc. They're not on the bread line, and according to economic predictions, service jobs are already better paid than many jobs that require college degrees.
I know what WT is trying to do here, but don't look down on people based on their job choices, at the end of it all, we're all only tax slaves for the state, whether you're a Doctor or a window cleaner, and I can guarantee that the window cleaning is much less stressful!
like the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.
how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.
there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.
i'm interested to know the age demographics here.
it must be significantly different to other exjw forums.
it would be a damning report for watchtower if most of us appear to have left for decades.. you don't have to mention your exact age, you could always say "in my 50s".. i am in my 70s.
this thread currently has over 300 comments.. it shows a picture of an older man washing a window looking wistfully… then it talks all about how some may have doubts about not having planned and the situation they are in now that they are older, etc.
it refers to others who did plan and who supposedly have ‘apparent’ financial security.
in my opinion, the whole gist of this article is to make older witnesses feel better who did not pursue a career or plan well for retirement.. it tries to imply that those others who planned only have ‘apparent’ financial security - which is to say they don’t (?).
What I don't understand is that if special pioneers, missionaries ,co's and bethelites all get an allowance why aren't they all receiving a pension from Bethel. Is there no law regarding that?
My parents, very much pimi, did plan for retirement in as much that they are not wealthy but do own their own home, beautiful place by the beach, not fancy but comfortable and perfect for retirement, and because they always paid their taxes ard receiving the state pension which covers their needs.
Their circle of pimi friends of similar ages have all been prudent as well, none are wealthy but at least they are financially secure.
They were all very hard working self employed people, none of them were 'special' witnesses and therefore looked to their immediate future, unfortunately most 'specials' did not and because they saught the worship of men they are now reaping the consequences.
i remember sitting through public talks where the speaker spent the hour discussing in great detail anal sex, masturbation (of yourself and others), sex during menstruation and so on.
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i was a child, looking back now, i realise that they systematically stripped away our childhood innocence, we knew and heard things no 'worldly' child would have heard.. the child abuse and grooming happened to every single one of us, the feelings of guilt and shame was in all of us even if we didn't actually do anything bad, the mental images caused by these filthy men hung around in our innocent minds till there was no room for that innocence.. it has taken me 44 years to realise that what was done to us, even those of us not physically abused, is a crime.. do they still have talks like that nowadays i wonder?
A saw video just a few years back the dangers of playing organized sports. It was literally the most homophobic and yet homoerotic thing I have ever seen. It was full of statements like " you could be in a shower with a another man and suddenly have the urge to have an erection ". It was so fucked up.
That is nuts, what sick minds to come up with this stuff!
i remember sitting through public talks where the speaker spent the hour discussing in great detail anal sex, masturbation (of yourself and others), sex during menstruation and so on.
.
i was a child, looking back now, i realise that they systematically stripped away our childhood innocence, we knew and heard things no 'worldly' child would have heard.. the child abuse and grooming happened to every single one of us, the feelings of guilt and shame was in all of us even if we didn't actually do anything bad, the mental images caused by these filthy men hung around in our innocent minds till there was no room for that innocence.. it has taken me 44 years to realise that what was done to us, even those of us not physically abused, is a crime.. do they still have talks like that nowadays i wonder?
i remember sitting through public talks where the speaker spent the hour discussing in great detail anal sex, masturbation (of yourself and others), sex during menstruation and so on.
.
i was a child, looking back now, i realise that they systematically stripped away our childhood innocence, we knew and heard things no 'worldly' child would have heard.. the child abuse and grooming happened to every single one of us, the feelings of guilt and shame was in all of us even if we didn't actually do anything bad, the mental images caused by these filthy men hung around in our innocent minds till there was no room for that innocence.. it has taken me 44 years to realise that what was done to us, even those of us not physically abused, is a crime.. do they still have talks like that nowadays i wonder?
i remember sitting through public talks where the speaker spent the hour discussing in great detail anal sex, masturbation (of yourself and others), sex during menstruation and so on.
.
i was a child, looking back now, i realise that they systematically stripped away our childhood innocence, we knew and heard things no 'worldly' child would have heard.. the child abuse and grooming happened to every single one of us, the feelings of guilt and shame was in all of us even if we didn't actually do anything bad, the mental images caused by these filthy men hung around in our innocent minds till there was no room for that innocence.. it has taken me 44 years to realise that what was done to us, even those of us not physically abused, is a crime.. do they still have talks like that nowadays i wonder?
I remember sitting through Public talks where the speaker spent the hour discussing in great detail anal sex, masturbation (of yourself and others), sex during menstruation and so on.
I was a child, looking back now, I realise that they systematically stripped away our childhood innocence, we knew and heard things no 'worldly' child would have heard.
The child abuse and grooming happened to every single one of us, the feelings of guilt and shame was in all of us even if we didn't actually do anything bad, the mental images caused by these filthy men hung around in our innocent minds till there was no room for that innocence.
It has taken me 44 years to realise that what was done to us, even those of us not physically abused, is a crime.
Do they still have talks like that nowadays I wonder?
i was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.
; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.
would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.