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  How many here have worked in social work, etc. & DON'T think MJ was a molester?

  by avishai in

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  i mean, c'mon, people.

  seriously, i admire those who want to think the best.

  but the guy had just about every red flag/indicator you can have.

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  From some of the comments here, maybe we need to define exactly what a child molestor is. Would gently squeezing a child's shoulder so that it made him feel "not right" be considered molestation? Seems to me some here think so.

  A child molestor is a person who has sexual intercourse with an invidual under the local law's age of sexual consent.

  How about pedophile? That an adult who is sexually attracted to children. I'm not convinced MJ was either.

  How about this? What if a person is mentally a child and has the desire to "play doctor" with another child?
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  How many here have worked in social work, etc. & DON'T think MJ was a molester?

  by avishai in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i mean, c'mon, people.

  seriously, i admire those who want to think the best.

  but the guy had just about every red flag/indicator you can have.

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  Well said Donny, I agree with you. His reality is something normal persons could never understand.
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  40 Years (a Generation) Past 1874, That's All it Was!

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  2. beliefs

  here's the real simple version of the complicated doctrine of when jesus supposedly returned and the last days arrived/ended/started.

  william miller said that jesus' return would be in 1844.

  (see the great disappointment at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/great_disappointment ) people who believed what he said were known as "millerites.

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  Great resume! Thanks!
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  70 years = 607?

  by allelsefails in

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  2. beliefs

  70 years of captivity?.

  i myself have always believed that when archaeology disagreed with the bible the bible must be right.

  that is how i dismissed the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce.

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  Great thread everyone. I gotta know, scholar, when did you start speaking in the third person?
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  Thriller Movie "The Village" must be based on Jehovah's Witnesses!

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. experiences

  m. shamalan's movie deals with a village of "amish" type people who are too scared to venture outside the village since their "elders' tell them the forrest is full of demons.

  they refuse to be "part of the world" and all medical care.

  it turns out the village is in a nature preserve in the 20th century but the elders had bad experiences in the world and made up the demons to scare the young villagers into never leaving!

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  When I heard about the movie and it's contents, I really wanted to see it. I rented it and my JW wife happened to have some JW friiends over the night we were going to watch it, so we all watched it together. I knew what the ending was but not how it arrived there. So I really enjoyed the movie but it made it even better as I watched the guests reactions.

  When the creatures appeared they started making comments, like who recommended this movie, etc. Typical paranoid JW stuff. I just kept my mouth shut as I knew what was coming.

  When it ended, I didn't say a word, and neither did they. But I'm sure they felt a little foolish with their comments.
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  Picture of Jesus in the KH

  by startingover in

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  a jw friend told me that a newly remodeled kh in the area has a big picture of jesus with his hand extended in the entrance.

  since it's a picture that is from the publications many say it's ok. sounds really out of place to me.

  it tells me the jw's are going mainstream..

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  I was born and raised a JW and the whole idea of this kind of picture at the entrance to a hall doesn't fit into what I was taught. Neither does the theme of the district convention recently - "Follow the Christ".
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  Picture of Jesus in the KH

  by startingover in

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  a jw friend told me that a newly remodeled kh in the area has a big picture of jesus with his hand extended in the entrance.

  since it's a picture that is from the publications many say it's ok. sounds really out of place to me.

  it tells me the jw's are going mainstream..

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  A JW friend told me that a newly remodeled KH in the area has a big picture of Jesus with his hand extended in the entrance. Since it's a picture that is from the publications many say it's OK. Sounds really out of place to me. It tells me the JW's are going mainstream.
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  If JW's went the way of the WCG

  by startingover in

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  i had a discussion with my loyal jw wife about what she would do if the jw's did an about fact like the worldwide church of god.

  i found this blog after our discussion and i really thought the comments were expressed very well and described exactly how i feel leaving the jws.. http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/exwcg/.

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  I had a discussion with my loyal JW wife about what she would do if the JW's did an about fact like the Worldwide Church of God. I found this blog after our discussion and I really thought the comments were expressed very well and described exactly how I feel leaving the JWs.

  http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/exwcg/
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  is there a hell or not?

  by helpaJWwife in

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  the bible talks about hell, jesus spoke of burning in hell, but the witness claim there is no hell......can someone please explain their reasoning...same with heaven..

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  Here is a JW response to jws" comment above:

  Which is why we don't believe in the same kind of hell other religions teach. Hell is just death. Satan "wins" if he merely keeps you from believing in or serving Jehovah, not if he "tortures" you... that doesn't even make sense.
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  is there a hell or not?

  by helpaJWwife in

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  the bible talks about hell, jesus spoke of burning in hell, but the witness claim there is no hell......can someone please explain their reasoning...same with heaven..

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  For those that believe there is a hell, I would really like to hear a refutation of jws' comment above. Great reasoning!