Posts by startingover

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Deaf Rider Ashley Fiolek Wins the AMA National at Southwick Motocross 338

by Yizuman in

check out this score:.

wmx class standings.

1. ashley fiolek, st. augustine, fla., honda, 336. .

startingover

Just to tie women's mx into this board, check out this page, she was raised a JW: http://motocross.loopd.com/Members/ives776/Default.aspx

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So long and thanks for all the fish.

by reniaa in

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here is a goodbye thread for people who have decided to move on and leave jwn.

posting a message for everyone or just some..

As irritating as her comments and hijacking were (I'm not directing this to her since she's gone, right?) IMO when people like her and Spike post it allows for those just beginning to doubt to discover how bizarre the JW thinking can be.

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Self Abuse

by startingover in

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something occurred to me while i was reading the promiscuous sex thread.

the wt always refers to masturbation as self abuse.

i googled it and came up with many sites that linked it to cutting oneself, but only a couple that linked those words to masturbation, one being a site about sda prophetess ellen white, and the other some religious site.. of course if you type in self pleasure then you get the masturbation links.

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Just thought this deserves to be resurrected.

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Can someone help me?

by losthusband in

hi - i'm new here so go easy on me!.

i've been lurking for a while trying to find out info on the jws.

some questions i have:.

startingover

Reniaa,

If you were in the market to make a purchase, wouldn't you check the internet for critical information regarding the product.

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"I'm sorry, but..."

by Farkel in

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after noticing reniaa use that expression to give a "reason" why she was hijacking a thread, i thought about about people who use "i'm sorry, but...".. "but" what, reniaa, et.

it dawned on me (yeah.

i'm a little slow at times) that this is much more than just a lame excuse.

startingover

I once heard it said that everything after "but" is bullshit. I think about that everytime I am tempted to use the word "but".

I don't know if it was a mistype, now I can't get the word "wagina" out of my head.

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God confused peoples language so they couldn't build Babel....a load of crap!

by Witness 007 in

yeah well, back in the day a group of people built a tower to heaven, so god confused their languages so they would not build a "mega city" and become powerful.. or if you want to used half a brain....languages evolved over time as a form of comunication between different tribes.

many languages are related, slavic or asian languages share the same or simular words.

oh and the cherry on top is adam and eve spoke yiddish.....ooie mashugana!

startingover

It seems that when that was written, people actually believed you could build a structure that would reach into the "heavens". Of course they didn't have airplanes, so the writer's viewpoint was narrow by today's standards.

Imagine a god so small minded that he would have to confuse them because if he didn't anything was possible for them just as the bible says. If there is a god and this is anything more than just a story, and if we are to believe the bible as his written word, it's obvious man doesn't need god.

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607 chronology debunked

by JanH in

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there is no evidence that our time has any specific biblical prophetic importance if the 1914 claims are wrong.even doctrines like the "two-class" system, which is a unique interpretation by the jehovah's witnesses, is actually dependent on the 1914 date.

the bible states that the final fall and destruction of jerusalem was in the 19th regnal year of nebuchadnezzar (jeremiah 52:12; 2 kings 25:1-4; 2. chron 26:11,19).

the most secure source of absolute dates comes from contemporary inscription with astronomical observations.

startingover

Wow, it's been 7 years since I first read this. Excellent work. For anyone interested, this is a link to Jan's blog which has more great JW based essays listed under "My Articles" http://blogs.salon.com/0001561/ And this one: http://home.broadpark.no/~jhauglan/rutherford.htm

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"Inside a Cult" on NatGeo

by undercover in

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i watched a couple of episodes of "inside" on natgeo last night.

these two episodes were, "inside a cult" and followed the cult led by wayne bent (who calls himself michael travesser) who claims he is divinity and humanity in one and that he is the messiah.. the guy's a true whack job.

he prophesied the end of the world on october 31, 2007. guess what...it didn't happen, yet the majority of his followers remained.. bent went to jail for improper sexual contact with an underage girl who was in the cult.

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I read the upcoming study article that was posted here by Mickey Mouse http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/180266/1/The-Faithful-Steward-and-its-Governing-Body

It really struck me how they have set themselves above the rest and give all this "scriptural" proof that the rest of the FDS class should just be preaching. Morphing in action.

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Why would the WTS have left out the statement on where blood fractions come from in the Keep Yourself Book?

by insearchoftruth in

the information at the bottom of this post is from the keep yourself in god's love book, the appendix, and is a bit of the discussion of fractions......what i find interesting is this book uses a lot of the information from the november 2006 our kingdom ministry article on blood fractions, but omits the statement:.

"of course many fractions are derived from blood that has been donated for medical purposes.

this seems to be more than just an oversite.

startingover

Thanks for posting this info.

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Talking points for reasoning with JWs

by bluecanary in

i've emailed this to several people now so figured i might as well post it and share with all.

the following information has been compiled from various sources on the web, including jwfacts.com and free minds.

a fraction of it is from my own mind.

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