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  How to tell if someone is an Atheist

  by Elsewhere in

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  how to tell if someone is an atheist:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0a4_bwcax0.

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  Thanks Else!
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  A Paradox for JWs and other religious people

  by NutFlush in

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  i was raised a jw and left nearly 15 years ago before/when i went away to college.

  since then, i have had nothing to do with organized religion (or non-organized religion, for that matter).

  in my experiences, fervent religious belief has not correlated well with things such as critical reasoning ability or secular success as measured by profession, level of education, income, etc.. i was browsing the blog of a semi-well-known guy who has worked in some of the same fields as me and came upon the following passage:.

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  Nutflush, great thread! It's a paradox I doubt will draw many believers in to comment. Although Snowbird never ceases to amaze me. I would like to see her comments just for the entertainment.
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  What I've found here

  by paul from cleveland in

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  i originally came here to find proof that the witnesses don't have the truth.

  i was so afraid of being destroyed at armagedon.. i didn't really find the convincing proof i was looking for.. what i did find, however, is the love and total acceptance that i hadn't felt before.

  to me, that's more important..

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  Paul, I take it you haven't read Crisis of Conscience.
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  The history of 1914

  by PYRAMIDSCHEME in

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  i am still going through the questioning my faith stage as i just discovered the inconsistencies of the org.

  it was 1914 that really threw me for a loop.

  i have never been completely sold on the "new light" policy.

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  I agree with Terry, what HAS Jesus been doing since 1914?
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  The Other People

  by startingover in

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  i haven't seen this posted for a while.

  it continues to be one of my favorites.

  for anone who hasn't read it, enjoy!http://www.sanfords.net/pagan_humor_and_thoughts/other_people.html.

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  Just another bump.
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  I had a marvelous vision from the FSM!

  by AK - Jeff in

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  as i walked along the road last night something seemed unusual.

  i can not put my finger on it, but i felt the spirit in my heart.

  i was overjoyed.

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  No comments from those who had their own vision, from...... I don't know...... maybe Jesus? I'm disappointed. Guess they just can't relate.
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  Why is god hiding?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  what god could have done to show himself:.

  he could have left incontrovertible evidence of his existence.he could have made it impossibly evident that mankind has been here only 6000 years, not the 200,000 give or take, that fossil evidence supports.

  he could have provided evidence through jesus to millions of non-believers, instead of focusing on a small band of fanatical followers eager to point to 'the messiah'.he could at any time, being the ultimate of beings, just simply show himself in the sky, speak to millions instead of to the lonely occasional deluded sheepherder in the desert, or provide miracles to millions of us as observers - part the ocean, cure cancer and announce it from heaven in a clear unmistakable voice, or instantaneously stop starvation and plague in it's tracks.

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  Thanks for starting the thread Jeff. Anyone who bases their life on reality and not emotion can understand how important the things you brought up are.

  I have gotten the same response from a friend when presenting this type of evidence that you got from Snowbird, ie if you really didn't care you would not worry about it. In my case, I don't worry about it but bring it up because of people like Snowbird who present their emotional experience as reality based. If people like her would just admit it's just something that makes them feel good and that it could be nothing more than a delusion, I would not feel he need to bring up the subject. But I have yet to see anyone like her do that.

  Being mislead for so many years because I just happened to have parents who tainted me from birth and never explained that there might be another choice, I applaud your efforts to spread the message of reality which hopefully someday will relagate Jesus to the status of Hercules.
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  The Internet: Where religions come to die. Why the WTS knows this. Excellent Video.

  by whereami in

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  worth watching all the way through.. .

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rqw4krmoug.

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  SOMEONE Is Watching Over Me!

  by snowbird in

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  There was a time when I was sure that my 3 "annointed" grandparents in heaven were somehow responsible for getting me out of close calls. I finally figured out that was all fantasy and that sometimes good things happen and sometimes bad.
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  Regarding the Mexico Situation

  by superpunk in

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  i have an e-friend who is trying to leave quietly, but his wife is still buying the wts explanations.

  he asked me this earlier today, wondering if anyone here has heard this chestnut, and if they'd be able to clarify.

  thanks in advance;.

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  Reminds me of the mental gymnastics some believers on this board go through to stick up for their god. One thing I have learned in my journey, if someone wants to believe something they will find a way. Wish I could help you with your question but I doubt the claim has any meri. But it would be real easy to run it by Ray, he could probably use a laugh.