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  Why not fire the god who bears a grudge and hire a better one?

  by Terry in

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  this is a competitive universe.

  well, here on earth, anyway.... none of us has to settle for less than the very best unless we are cheap.. why hire a cheap god when you can get a better one?.

  what the heck am i talking about?.

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  Tammy,

  Can you see the son without the bible?
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  Quick Question (or two, or three)...

  by AGuest in

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  2. friends

  may you all have peace!.

  although i realize the responses may not be "quick", a response on another thread prompts me to ask:.

  "what do you mean by "spiritual"?

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  I think I have the "spiritual" thing figured out. I don't need belief in a god, or some invisible realm for me to be at peace with myself, to sit and contemplate my space in the universe. All I need are some liquid "spirits", and that is no joke.
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  Quick Question (or two, or three)...

  by AGuest in

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  may you all have peace!.

  although i realize the responses may not be "quick", a response on another thread prompts me to ask:.

  "what do you mean by "spiritual"?

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  To quote to other posters: It's just a word, and it's BS
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  Jesse Ventura...

  by sooner7nc in

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  ...is on piers morgan right now and he's a nutcase.. he should have stuck to wrasslin' and predator movies.

  "this shit'll make you a god-damn sexual tyrannosaur...just like me.

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  I personally like the man. Like was said above, he's real. As far as the rocking, I think it was just nerves. He didn't do it when the conversation was not intense.
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  Reality exists in your brain

  by Nickolas in

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  2. experiences

  i've just posted the following in another thread whose subject is supernatural experience, but it may deserve its own thread so i'll repost it here.

  i don't believe in the supernatural but i do believe that people experience unexplained things.

  where i differ from some people is that i perceive the unexplained things exist only in their brains and not in the physical world around them.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.

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  Thanks for the post. I hadn't really thought about it like this before, but I'm convinced it's true that reality only exists in your own head. Even as a JW I never had any of the "demon" experiences that were so popular. Now that I have put that and all the other superstitious beliefs behind, if I had an experiences like you had, I would look for an explanation other than something supernatural, as you did.
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  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony

  by Perry in

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  a dear member of my congregation gives his testimony from shite muslim to christian.

  emery told me once that his father told him that the only reason he's still alive is because of the laws of the u.s. otherwise he'd be required to kill him.. kinda puts puts jw shunning in a "new light"..... somebody always has it worse.

  kinda lenghty but well worth it.

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  Perry, thank you for answering my question.

  Lovelylil,

  If you believe the Bible is just a book of fairy tales, and that is your perogative to do so, then you have nothing to worry about anyway. So why would you care if the Bible teaches people go to hell?

  Thanks for changing your use of the word "fact". Ignoring the logical fallacy above, I care because my wife believes the bible to be god's word and will give her life up for what she thinks it says. I continue to have a hard time with believers who make statements and claim them as fact when they aren't, they are beliefs.
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  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a dear member of my congregation gives his testimony from shite muslim to christian.

  emery told me once that his father told him that the only reason he's still alive is because of the laws of the u.s. otherwise he'd be required to kill him.. kinda puts puts jw shunning in a "new light"..... somebody always has it worse.

  kinda lenghty but well worth it.

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  Perry, I specifically asked you where hell is. You are so sure about everything you must have an answer. As lovelylil said, there are many answers to that question, I already knew that. I would like to see yours.

  Lovelylil, one of your posts above uses the word "fact" to describe god's discipline. Some of us need to live a reality based life and use facts to that end. What you descibed is not a fact, but a belief. It appears you accept many things and describe them as fact just because they are in the bible, and the bible alone. Many of us here have done in depth research and have come to the conclusion that the bible is just a book containing history and myth, and is, as I think you believe, above all else a book of faith. If so, I think you should quit using the word "fact" when speaking of things that are nothing more than beliefs or opinions which by definition are accepted without proof.
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  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony

  by Perry in

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  2. beliefs

  a dear member of my congregation gives his testimony from shite muslim to christian.

  emery told me once that his father told him that the only reason he's still alive is because of the laws of the u.s. otherwise he'd be required to kill him.. kinda puts puts jw shunning in a "new light"..... somebody always has it worse.

  kinda lenghty but well worth it.

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  Perry,

  It's a simple question that I haven't seen answered. If it's a real place it must have an identifiable location, right?
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  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a dear member of my congregation gives his testimony from shite muslim to christian.

  emery told me once that his father told him that the only reason he's still alive is because of the laws of the u.s. otherwise he'd be required to kill him.. kinda puts puts jw shunning in a "new light"..... somebody always has it worse.

  kinda lenghty but well worth it.

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  I stopped reading a few posts above this to ask what I have asked of Perry before. Where exactly is hell?
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  To the mentally disturbed on JWN

  by undercover in

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  2. friends

  actually i thought about making a thread called, "to the rational and non-delusional of jwn" but realized it wouldn't get too many hits, so instead i've created a thread for all those conspiracy theorists, doomsday sayers, christ complexers and the just plain ole batshit nuts.. this thread is for you....

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  There is a family of wretched hillbilly's who come in at closing with giant trashbags filled with moldy, water damaged books and magazines that looks like they were pulled out of a blighted attic. The Big Momma has a loose fitting house dress that barely covers her enormous chesticles and she leans on the counter with pendulous grace watching whoever is doing the bookbuy. (We buy from the public, you see...) It takes forever to inspect this garbage, of course because there are hundreds of pieces involved! Her son is a giant of a boy like Baby Huey who is very gentle and polite in his overalls and hand-me-down shoes. Her husband carries a Folger's coffee can to spit chewing tobacco in while they all just stand there like statues staring!

  Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.