Posts by startingover

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Donald Duck and Jehovah (from the book "Jehovah Unmasked")

by JamesThomas in

ll of us grew up watching and enjoying the antics of.

donald duck.

we laughed as he slowly but surely lost.

startingover

Not meaning to be a smart a$$, when I read that word, didn't recognize it. I'm sure it means being all qualified, all capable.

Again, great analogy

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Donald Duck and Jehovah (from the book "Jehovah Unmasked")

by JamesThomas in

ll of us grew up watching and enjoying the antics of.

donald duck.

we laughed as he slowly but surely lost.

startingover

Great analogy.

One question though, what does " omnicompetent" mean? Never heard that word before and I can't find it in a dictionary.

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Another question for Defd

by startingover in

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since you are one of the easiest active jw's to ask, do you know how that year 1914 for the return of jesus was arrived at?

i'm not asking to put you on the spot, but i am curious if you would be able to explain it to me if i asked.. i notice you never post on any threads that have to do with that subject.

You response indicates to me you probably can't answer it. Misdirect all you want, sounds like just an excuse. Reminds me of an answer an elder gave my friend when he questioned him about a certain WT teaching. His answer to why they beleived that way in spite of evidence to the contrary was "Because". Yes, he believed that "just because" was an acceptable answer. Hadn't heard a comeback like that since grade school.

I don't think you have a clue why I would even start this thread. Let me tell you. The 607-1914 teaching which I discovered is faulty destroyed my faith in the WTS. I find it hard to understand how someone when informed of such a mistake, can just ignore it, as my wife and parents do. I think most JW's are like FF was, they just don't stop and think about it. Or maybe if they think there is a problem they have to ignore it and hope it goes away.

Old Soul really hits it, it's all a faulty assumption that there's a secondary fulfillment.

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Another question for Defd

by startingover in

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since you are one of the easiest active jw's to ask, do you know how that year 1914 for the return of jesus was arrived at?

i'm not asking to put you on the spot, but i am curious if you would be able to explain it to me if i asked.. i notice you never post on any threads that have to do with that subject.

startingover

LOL Undercover

Defd, I was wondering if you had even read this thread, but now I know you have. I am presuming it is not something you can answer, based upon your non response and also non participation in 1914 threads.

I guess that is what I was expecting. FF really sums it up. Most JW's can't answer that, even though 1914 and how it is arrived at is the most important thing a JW can know. The whole organization exists today to accomplish the preaching work, in particular the preaching of the good news. The good news is wrapped around 1914. If 1914 is wrong because 607 is wrong, then the men in NY have not been selected by god and have no special knowledge and are guessing like everyone else. Just another religion.

I think most JW's now, even though they are studying the Daniel book, really don't pay attention to the validity of 1914, they just accept. Especially the young ones. If I didn't have a public talk I gave many times based upon Danial Ch 4, I probably wouldn't have been able to tell you either, although I've heard it my whole life. It makes me wonder how much Mormons, expecially young ones, know about Joseph Smith and the golden tablets. Next time I see them, I think I will ask them how much they are taught about that.

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Why do tragedies happen....

by Shining One in

...the answer is in genesis.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2005/0923rita.asp .

rex

startingover

Sometimes when I read these threads started by Rex or some other bible thumper, I wonder why I keep reading.

I have come to the conclusion it's for the same reason, when flipping channels on the TV, I just have to stop when I hit the channel showing professional wrestling.

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Another question for Defd

by startingover in

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since you are one of the easiest active jw's to ask, do you know how that year 1914 for the return of jesus was arrived at?

i'm not asking to put you on the spot, but i am curious if you would be able to explain it to me if i asked.. i notice you never post on any threads that have to do with that subject.

startingover

Since you are one of the easiest active JW's to ask, do you know how that year 1914 for the return of Jesus was arrived at?

I'm not asking to put you on the spot, but I am curious if you would be able to explain it to me if I asked.

I notice you never post on any threads that have to do with that subject.

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Pictures of Paradise

by gringojj in

jw
friends

my wife made a comment today about all the pictures of paradise and how none of them ever show the inside of a house.

they are always the same pictures of people outside playing with lions and water in the background.

someone was talking in another post about how hard it is to make the simplest items.

startingover

Hey everybody! Are you forgetting you have to trust in Jehovah and he will supply your every need?

That's the response I get when I bring this up, immediately followed by the head going back in the sand.

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Update on Anti-Witness to Former Bible Study...

by tall penguin in

i just got off the phone with my former bible study who i haven't talked to in over a year.

for the backstory look at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/98983/1.ashx .

so, we chatted about family and just got caught up.

startingover

I personally feel guilty for studying with people.

If you feel that way you should tell her how you feel and offer to tell her what things you taught her that were untrue.

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The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets

by VM44 in

could the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?

the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.

for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.

startingover

Does anyone else feel like banging their head against the wall after reading scholar's posts?

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Watchtower Gives Up Explaining 607 BCE Date!

by VM44 in

this is a very important observation, that the watchtower has not tried to explain in print why 607 bce is the year for the destruction of jerusalem for the last 17 years!!!.

all that the watchtower has done over most of the last two decades is to repeat over and over the year "607bce" in its publications as if it is an unquestioned fact!.

the last time an explaination for the year was attempted by the watchtower was in 1988 when the "insight" volumes were published, but since then, no explaination for the validity of the year has appeared in print.. this must mean something, but what?

startingover

I really like reading threads about 607, but if I hear "celebrated WT scholars" one more time I think I'm going to lose it!