Posts by Stealth

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The Real Purpose of Shunning Holidays

by metatron in

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the watchtower endlessly prates on about pagan traditions in popular holidays - while the bible itself is loaded with subtle pagan religious ideas - such as wicked spirits being cast "into tartarus" (a pagan greek place in which the rebels against zeus got imprisoned) or "sacred secret" - a term the apostle paul likes that was adopted from pagan 'mystery' religions.. then we can throw in the reference to being divinely 'called christians' in acts - which uses a pagan term that refers to demonic oracles of the day.. of course, the watchtower has no objection to accumulating millions of pieces of paper that feature occult symbols (any dollar bill!).

in recent years, for good measure, they have added birthdays and thanksgiving to the official banned list, despite the sketchiest justification for doing so.

if birthdays are wrong simply because they figure in two negative accounts, then it makes much more sense to ban dogs as pets because of all the negativity in the bible about them!.

Stealth

Before my parents converted to JW, we had many cousins, aunts, uncles within less than a one day drive. I have fond memories of spending time with them most often over the holidays. Then we converted to JW when I was about 10 years old, and we were cut off from all of our family.

My parents told us children it was them who did not want anything to do with us because of our religion, so that is what we grew up thinking. Today, I know better. Now I have spent most of my life totally alianated from my cousins who I have such fond memories of as a child.

I should probably try and reach out to them now, but it has been so long, it could never be like it was before. What a loss to loose all of my extended family because of this stupid rule!

If you have young children and are a JW, DON'T let this happen to them! It is a loss that you can never get back.

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The Watchtower is NOT a false prophet

by The Quiet One in

regarding what some have said here about the wt being a false prophet.. i would like to make my point regarding the wt not being a false prophet... so please, if you can be patient enough to read this, at least try to understand what i am getting at.. a false prophet is one who, according to deuteronomy, makes a false prediction of the future and claims that the prediction came from god, or in other words claiming that 'god has said he will do a certain thing at a certain time' etc.. for example, hypothetically speaking, if someone had claimed: "god will bring about the end of the world in 2010", they would have been proven to be a false prophet, obviously.

but, as an example, imagine a man who claimed the position of a prophet of god, (as moses did, because although he was not the type of prophet that predicted the future.. he was still a prophet or spokesman for god) and that he had publicised worldwide, according to his interpretation of a (for example) prophecy found in the book of isaiah, that the world would end in 2010.. and he had also stated that he was not saying that god will end the world in that year.. but only that there was biblical evidence that god might do so.

that would clearly have been a mistake.

Stealth

TQO said; the WT doesn't claim that they are infallible/inspired prophets at all, merely that they are guided by Gods spirit, and that they may be wrong when making an interpretation of prophecy..

Then why would they take such a hard line on anyone who may not agree with their interpretation of prophecy if they admit in advance that they may be wrong?

If you don't agree 100% with their 'interpretation of prophecy' then one is labeled an 'apostate' and cut off from family and friends. Why? Seems a bit harsh for a group who freely admit they could be wrong about things.

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To garyneal and Others, Evidence that the anointed remnants represented by the GB were selected in 1919.

by mankkeli in

1st evidence: the release of loyal jews from exile, made possible by the fall of babylon, foreshadowed the release in 1919 of anointed christians from spiritual exile.

2nd evidence: that year marked the beginning of the period when the anointed remnants were released from a form of spiritual captivity to the ideas and practices of false religion.

although having rejected such false teachings as the trinity and the immortal soul, they were still tainted by babylonish practices.

Stealth

Mankkeli sure isn't no rocket surgeon, must have got his PHD from the internet.

It sounds like the GB is vetting you for a position on the writing committee.

Keep up the good work, you are showing just how crazy JW doctrine is. If you call what you have served up 'Evidence', I can understand why JW's should never participate in a jury trial.

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To garyneal and Others, Evidence that the anointed remnants represented by the GB were selected in 1919.

by mankkeli in

1st evidence: the release of loyal jews from exile, made possible by the fall of babylon, foreshadowed the release in 1919 of anointed christians from spiritual exile.

2nd evidence: that year marked the beginning of the period when the anointed remnants were released from a form of spiritual captivity to the ideas and practices of false religion.

although having rejected such false teachings as the trinity and the immortal soul, they were still tainted by babylonish practices.

Stealth

The fullfillment of the 1914 prophecy was not to bring the world to an end, but for "faithful devouts to feel the presence of the lord".

Could you provide the reference as to where Russell stated this prior to 1914?

Prophecy is easy when you rewrite it after the fact!

By the way, I'm not joking. I'm devoting productive time to rescue lost souls here.

Well looks like you have been here for about 6 months, how many souls have you rescued here? I think you are really helping JW's with half of a mind to think for themselves to get out. And if you can't see that, then you are the joke.

Great job! Keep up the good work!

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To garyneal and Others, Evidence that the anointed remnants represented by the GB were selected in 1919.

by mankkeli in

1st evidence: the release of loyal jews from exile, made possible by the fall of babylon, foreshadowed the release in 1919 of anointed christians from spiritual exile.

2nd evidence: that year marked the beginning of the period when the anointed remnants were released from a form of spiritual captivity to the ideas and practices of false religion.

although having rejected such false teachings as the trinity and the immortal soul, they were still tainted by babylonish practices.

Stealth

Were you not aware that the 1914 prediction was made before the event took place?.

It is clear that you are not aware of what the 1914 prediction even was! Here is a hint, if the prediciton was correct, you would not be here today.

What you are doing is satire, right? This is a joke right? You do more harm the JW's then you do to help their cause.

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Theocratic warfare

by marriedtoajw in

what is theocratic warfare exactly as it is taught by the watchtower?

are all jw's instructed to apply it?

how is it applied and to what degree and in what circumstances?

Stealth

'Judge Rutherford'

Theocratic warfare at it's best. Judges get elected. Rutherford was never an elected Judge. In the 19th century, if an elected judge went on vacation then a lawyer could sit in for a few days as an acting judge. Rutheford acted as a substitue judge on 2 or 3 occasions, most of those doing nothing.

He then adopts the title of 'Judge Rutherford' after taking over the WTBTS in order to give the appearance of being more credible and more trustworthy to his potential followers. The truth is he was a door to door salesman and a crappy lawyer.

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todays WT study...the picture...?

by stillin in

i wish i could scan it and get your thoughts.

it was a picture of a happy group of witnesses during a meeting for field service.

there was a. comment from a local high-horse-rider about a brother in the front row in the picture being disobedient.

Stealth

The guy all the way in the back looks like he is about to bust a gut. He must be the undercover apostate.

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Buried my 17 yr old nephew yesterday....hug ur kids!!

by crazyblondeb in

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friends

cant really go into the whole story, but yesterday we bured my.

17 yr old nephew....just reminds me of how important family is.... http://www.abc17news.com/news.php?id=4324.

any fights, squabbles..arent important!.

Stealth

Such a great loss for a young man just begining his life. My deepest sympathy to your family, I know he will be missed.

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Why Women Are Treated Second Class In This Organization?

by AvocadoJake in

the best bible scholars have been women in my realm of this religious world.

the women study their husbands watchtowers, prepare the parts, write their talks, put their ties on, get the shave cream out of their ears.

it must be hard and you must have the patiences of job, to be able to listen to, the many arrogant men and how you will (if you are a female annointed.

Stealth

Quote from: Watchtower September 15, 1941, p. 287

In the kingdom the 'great multitude' will look to the Lord to guide as to selecting each a mate for himself. Why, then, should a man who has the prospect before him of being of the great multitude now tie himself up to a stack of bones and a hank of hair?"
J.F. Rutherford

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Get ready - the final end of everything October 21

by wannabefree in

perhaps this has already been addressed, i looked ... i thought you might want to know, not much time left ..... harold camping .... some time after being released from a nursing home in june after suffering a stroke, camping, released an audio message on family radio's website saying, "we would have not been able to be used [by god] to bring about the tremendous event that occurred on may 21 of this year, which probably [will] be finished out on oct. 21 that's coming very shortly.

that looks like it will be ... the final end of everything.".

http://www.christianpost.com/news/harold-camping-update-rapture-will-probably-finish-oct-21-57197/.

Stealth

'Does 10 21 2011 mean anything in a computer language?'

There are 10 types of people in this world, those who know binary and those who don't.