Posts by Stealth

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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!

by Terry in

okay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.

i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.

because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.

Stealth

The WT is a cult.

A formal organization to expose the WT is just another cult.... an anti-WT cult.

XJWs have no desire to trade one cult for another.

Grass root efforts such as this letter writing is the way to go IMO. Anyone can get involved who wants to. We each can give of our time and resources freely, without having a corporate structure bogging things down, then abuse you when you don't follow the party line.

The power of many great minds can come together for colaberation that is just not possible with a corporate cult.

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Lot's of talk on the July Watchtower?

by noonehome in

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so i've heard lots of talk from within about the 'new light' in this watchtower...i'm yet to look at it in any detail.

i'm kind of surprised actually...i first heard about it here before it was even available but close to the time it did come out people started bringing it up - even our co.. some say things like "have you heard about this?

" or "big changes," or "allot of things they said we believed, i didn't realize,"(lots of that) or "brain-overload" or " too much information, but i've never felt more pumped up" or "it's soo exciting to see jehovah's spirit lead his organization..." or "it requires time to sink in, but it's a good feeling!

Stealth

People are just eating it right up. Slurping it up like a plate full of saucy spaghetti

Sounds like the actions of people who are spiritually starved. They are so starved for new light that the GB can feed them a plat of dog crap and they lap it up like spaghetti.

Sad.

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I am confused by the "reserrection" doctrine. Who will be raised first Old testament people or people who die right before Armaggeddon?

by booker-t in

i have always wondered who will be raised first people such as noah, job, enoch, etc; or people who die right before armaggeddon?

if noah, job, are raised first would not they be terrified with all of the modern inventions they will see such as cars, airplanes, clothes, watches, tvs, radios, and all of the modern technologies.

also, if people lived to 900 years back then would not methusalan be shocked if a person raised tells him they were only 20 years old when they died?

Stealth

So if he/she were to do what you suggest and do all of that research, then he/she will get the answer to who will be raised first? People of old or more recent generations? Somehow I doubt it.

Thanks, but no thanks, I will pass, as I already know the answer per my previous post.

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I am confused by the "reserrection" doctrine. Who will be raised first Old testament people or people who die right before Armaggeddon?

by booker-t in

i have always wondered who will be raised first people such as noah, job, enoch, etc; or people who die right before armaggeddon?

if noah, job, are raised first would not they be terrified with all of the modern inventions they will see such as cars, airplanes, clothes, watches, tvs, radios, and all of the modern technologies.

also, if people lived to 900 years back then would not methusalan be shocked if a person raised tells him they were only 20 years old when they died?

Stealth

Villagegirl, booker-t would have to clarify the scope of his question, but that is the way I took it since he/she put the word "reserrection" in quotes was they were asking about what the WT doctrine is. After all, this is a JW discussion forum.

So if booker-t was asking for our general opinions on the "reserrection" doctrine, why not offer up your interpretation instaead of bashing other posters for the contributions they make? How about answering his questions then? What is the doctrine of the "reserrection" according to Villagegirl?

If he is asking for our interpretaion and not that of the WT, then I would refer him/her back to 'return of the parakeet' and 'bigmac' for the correct answer.

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I am confused by the "reserrection" doctrine. Who will be raised first Old testament people or people who die right before Armaggeddon?

by booker-t in

i have always wondered who will be raised first people such as noah, job, enoch, etc; or people who die right before armaggeddon?

if noah, job, are raised first would not they be terrified with all of the modern inventions they will see such as cars, airplanes, clothes, watches, tvs, radios, and all of the modern technologies.

also, if people lived to 900 years back then would not methusalan be shocked if a person raised tells him they were only 20 years old when they died?

Stealth

Villagegirl, Blondie was just showing what the WT doctrine is with reagrd to reserrection. There is no better way than to show right from the source what the WT doctrine is. At least that is the way I understood the OP question to be asking.

How would you expain the doctrine if not to use their own words? Your own interpretaion?

Anyway, a random thought on the topic. Wouldn't any people who died of natural causes or were murdered just before the big A starts be the most lucky people in the world? They didn't have to suffer through the great tribulation but will still get reserrected. Hopefully they will listen to the 'truth' or they will just have to die again in 1,000 years.

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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

i am an inactive jw.

i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.

i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.

Stealth

Even if they were to shutdown and restart... what prevents an elder or someone trying to out others to set up a facebook account just for that purpose and ask to join the group. The same risk would be there. Using facebook just seems like a bad idea all around when it comes to protecting privacy. That said, I am not a facebook user so I certainly may not know what I am talking about.

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Shiver Me Timbers I Gots a Bible Study Matey!

by RayPublisher in

the new wt 2013 june tells kids that they might get to study with a pirate someday!

perhaps johnny depp will be resurrected for just that purpose?.

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Stealth

could this be damage control over the whole Sparlock video?

Magic = Bad

Pirates = Good, if you can study with them

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I've Come To Realize That "Facts" Don't Mean Much If A Person Refuses To Accept Them

by minimus in

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...and that applies to religion as well as politics.. if someone simply believes such and such is true, it doesn't really matter whether you "prove" it or not.

people will believe what they want to believe..

Stealth

Is it safe to say without reading 8 pages of long winded posts, that this thread actually proves Minimus title of OP to be true/fact?

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My wife just told me to move out...

by nolongerconfused in

because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.

she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.

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Stealth

'i learned all this the hard way.'

Same here, Even though at the time I was ready to be done with both the JWs and her.. I moved out when my loyal JW wife asked me to for the exact same reason yours has asked you to.

The hand she was playing was to a) get me back in line with JW or b) My leaving the home would lead to my giving her grounds for divorce.

After I left, I spent the next year deprogramming myself and reading everything I could about the religion, I was busy but not like she thought. I had no desire to date or get involved with another person, I remained single while she became lonely, got involved with another man and she got DF.

To this day, I have not been DF nor have I DA myself. She is still DF and now an Xjw herself.

One of my biggest regrets was leaving the home when she asked me.

Don't make the same mistake!

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I will be celebrating the memorial at my home

by nolongerconfused in

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anyone else want to join?

we'll be partaking in the bread and wine...no sing alongs and no talk...just reading the account on the bible.... :o).

Stealth

What is the date of the event this year?

A good merlot is a great choice of wine. Maybe a little cheese with the crackers.

I am in center of US, as long as I don't have to attend a K.H.