Topic by Steven

i thought that this was all out of the way when 2 weeks ago my wife & i handed in letters of disassociation.. we have been since then trying to adjust & just when i thought i was getting somewhere - starting to feel normal again - i got a phone call 1hr ago from our presiding overseer saying that they haven't announced it yet & wanted to talk.. he is a very nice guy & i was caught totally unprepared so i put him off - said i would ring back later - 2pm'ish uk time.. now i have that horrible feeling in my stomach again - help!.

basically, when it comes down to it i don't think we want them to come over - it will open us up too much & i don't want that.. also, though, i want to sort it out; so i am thinking of just chatting to him for a bit on the phone.. i didn't really want to do this since it could knock their faith & also i am not fully ready to argue all of the facts with elders.

however it looks like i will have to.. anyway when it boils down to it they can argue away all of the facts like the un thing etc.

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re Milton Keynes

by Jim Dee in

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friends

an update on the bethel moving to mk.

there was a very high powered meeting at the holiday inn in mk on friday.

(the holiday inn used to be the thf, rebranded a few weeks ago).

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The three reasons we leave the "Truth"

by sleepy in

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friends

seems to me there are mainly three roads most of us have taken.

1.we did something "wrong" and were disfellowshipped and after felt able to look at the society in a different light.. 2.we didn't like the "truth" and were looking for a way out.. 3.we wanted it to be the truth but were overcome by the mountain of evidence against it.. which is the most common i wonder.. also do our motives play a large part in how we deal with information criticising the org.. without a reason to act information seems useless.. for instance if a person feels he has nothing to gain by leaving the org will he read different things into the same info as us?.

i think so and that all who leave must have a reason to do so, something to gain.. this does not make their reasoning wrong or prove they we are looking for just excuse.. but is a normal way in which humans deals with information.. two humans can have the same information but if they want or desire different things they may use the information differently.. maybe thats wht so many say "where else is there to go?

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Ray Franz's book , just a pack of lies?

by sleepy in

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friends

my wife is very sceptical of ray franz's book coc.. what i want to know is this , has the society ever shown that the events described in that book are false and the letters or statments quoted are false?

i feel their silence on the matter speaks for itself.. has the society ever sued any so called apostate writer for lies in their books?.

i personaly dont agree with all the critacism about jehovahs witnesses and understand that ray's slant on matters may not always be unbiased (who ever is?

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MAJOR UN/WTS/NGO NEWS - WTS IS GONE

by hawkaw in

as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.

the dpi is now taking them off the list.

the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.