Posts by ÁrbolesdeArabia

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If you believe God exists, what are your thoughts on what pleases him most?

by Fernando in

our family has come to believe that god really wants each individual to personally and independently seek, find and walk with him - quite apart from what other humans say, think, believe or do.. we believe we were created as semi-autonomous beings.

when our inner compass is recalibrated, and we then self-direct, the outcomes seem best.. when we are instead led by humans, their hierarchies, organisations and ideas, the outcomes on the whole seem unfavourable.

legalism (rules), moralism (a moral code), ethnocentrism (doctrine), and gnosticism (knowledge) may seem meritorious.. yet these do not seem to lead to the deep inner transformation needed.

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Fernando, were you able to overcome the guilt so many JWs and ex-JWs are battling on a daily basis? What is your secret to success, please share this with others on JWN, I know some who have no guilt, but they also lack a conscience and have no heart. These ones, I call the neo-pharisees, they put to shame their first century counterparts, the Pharisees.

Trying to be a real Christian is a challenge, as a JW it was very easy to ignore the plight of others in the World. Praying for everyone in the World is new, I never heard a prayer from the platform praying for everyone, just the fellow Witnesses around the World. Has your style of prayer changed since divorcing yourself from the Organization's selfishness? Do you view other Christians in various denominations as Christians, the ones who follow his command Jesus emphasized on Earth?

Need Help Locating the new Elder Letter and Advice To Help My Child With Mediator Topic.

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

i am having my child drive up from san fran, ca this weekend, i need advice how to show the wts identify's themself as the "mediator between mankind and jesus christ to jehovah god.

which magazines are blunt enough to speak of the new-lite?

jehovah (jesus christ mediator)-(wts governing body vice-president mediator)-(witnesses annointed and non-annointed)-(the world and christendom, babylon the great.).

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I am having my child drive up from San Fran, Ca this weekend, I need advice how to show the WTS identify's themself as the "Mediator between mankind and Jesus Christ to Jehovah God. Which magazines are blunt enough to speak of the new-lite?

Jehovah (Jesus Christ mediator)-(WTS Governing Body vice-president mediator)-(Witnesses annointed and non-annointed)-(The World and Christendom, Babylon the Great.)

We need to nail the Organization for their crazy teachings, has anyone posted the "outline" that teaches a "Rapture" style belief for the 2013 Memorial Outline?

The letter to all Congregations regarding child sex abuse and how "repentful former sex-offeners could qualify to serve the congregation" establishing themselves as "reputable or God's appointed servants" in the eyes of unthinking dubs? This troubles me and show's how desperate the Org is becoming, who is liable with this new teaching, if the Org allows the elders to appoint or provide services Congregation-wide, who get's sued if the elders knowingly appointed a sex-offender who violated children twenty years ago, but appears in "good standing" now? The liability of appointing anyone with a checkered past of child sexual-abuse scares me!

Pre 2000 Strategies To Confess Child Sex Abuse and Stay Put As Elder..

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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never mind.

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never mind

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How many Muslim women martyrs do we need before Muslim leaders speak out

by skeeter1 in

how many muslim women martyrs do we need before muslim leaders speak out?by cristina odone world last updated: october 18th, 2012. comment on this.

enough is enough: women pay tribute to malala.

a 20-year-old afghan girl has been beheaded, by her in-laws, for refusing to become a prostitute.

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Rebels in Syria took out members from a Christian church and killed the husband and wife this week. The rebels are taking a hard stance against the minority Christians in Syria, they have a strange way of wanting help from the rest of the World. Radical zealouts in Indonesia closed down all their Christian churches in one Sharia Law Providence, I don't think they want peace and freedom for women either!

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The WT proves again that it does not understand Child Psychology

by Christ Alone in

i posted this elsewhere, but wanted to create a thread about this specifically.

here is one way that i think the wt is absolutely wrong in it's advice on raising children:.

in the 1/13 awake they talk about mistakes that parents make with their children.

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I turned on Christian Radio and Janet Parcial had a guest on this very subject matter I posted above, how strange!

Broken I am very sorry your parents did not respect the hard work you displayed to acheive high "mark's in school. The focus was to get our kids out of school as fast as possible and either get them into the "Pioneer Service" with no Trade School education or lie to everyone by claiming "I want to go to Bethel, it's the right thing to do!" when these kids and parents had no intention of sending their kids there!

You are part of the Lost Generation of the 1950s-1990s where the majority of parents were not impressed if their kids were graduating in the top of the class. I heard my share of talks from every level of the Ponzi Scheme down-playing all the hard work the children were accomplishing in school. I regret I allowed my mind to think these men had God backing them up, when all the signals were flickering "Caution". Good Job with your A grades in High School, you are smart!

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Jehovah's Witnesses DO NOT break up families

by irondork in

jehovah's witnesses do not break up families.

members who refuse to become or remain jehovah's witnesses... break up families.. really, you apostates have such a distorted perception of reality.. .

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irondork, this is a very touchy subject, what if some lurker who does not know your jesting thinks your a JW Apologist defending the religion that's brilliant at divide and conqueor?

I don't know if you are one who has experienced the painful attacks by holy-roller dubs, a thread I posted previously to yours was of some girl who lamented how wicked her family treats here. I know a girl in Idaho who came forward with allegations against her elder dad of abuse, she lost all seven of her siblings, even though two of her sisters were abused by Pappy. It's more important to keep the pretense of "strong family unity with the half-Truth, than to admitt there is something very wrong in Watchtower Land."

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The WT proves again that it does not understand Child Psychology

by Christ Alone in

i posted this elsewhere, but wanted to create a thread about this specifically.

here is one way that i think the wt is absolutely wrong in it's advice on raising children:.

in the 1/13 awake they talk about mistakes that parents make with their children.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

The Watchtower needs to hire people (writers) who understand what they are writing about, not some hacks who regurgitate some rogue study done by one or to social science workers.

We regress back to pre-1950s psychoanalysis of the infant/child's bond with hers/his relationship with Mother. Old shrinks believed newly born and young babies were not interested in affection or love, their crying was related to their need to feed or have their behind's changed.

"The second viewpoint of this time period was that of the behaviorists. John Locke appeared centuries before one of the most well-known behaviorist, John B. Watson, and held the belief that children are born "blank slates" and that the environment could completely shape them into the people they would become. They warned that motherly affection toward children was dangerous, and that children should be treated as young adults. Robert Karen (1994) states, "In his famous 1928 book on child rearing, Watson wrote: 'Treat them as though they were young adults. Dress them, bathe them with care and circumspection. Let your behavior always be objective and kindly firm. Never hug and kiss them, never let them sit on your lap. If you must, kiss them once on the forehead when they say goodnight. Shake hands with them in the morning. Give them a pat on the head if they have made an extraordinary good job of a difficult task'" (p. 3). The behaviorists were perhaps the first "baby trainers" believing that as long as the infant's physical needs were met within a strict schedule, the infant should not be coddled. Sadly, some people still hold this belief in today's society as shall be discussed later in this paper

http://whynottrainachild.com/articles/attachment-theory/

The Slave love to have the friends run up to them at Conventions and say "What a fantastic talk you gave (even though it was trash, I remember listening to Fred Franz give a talk in the 1990s down in San Diego via telephone link. It was horrible and the crowd cheered like Jesus Christ was giving the part!) The moral of this story, don't praise the "Snakes in Suits" from Bethel, treat them the way "Harry Harlow" treated the Rhesus monkies that received no attention and fell apart.

I would love to know what "Erikson" (the greatest child psychologist ever, who loved getting the message out to change how parents needed to provide attention, love and praise to these little attention magnates!) would have thought of this new-lite from the Dubs on "overly praising children, instead of dread and chronic guilt the Slave prey's off, kids have self-esteem and feel good about themselves! I would love to debunk their sources, the only ones who feel self-entitled are the little dubs who left school in fifth-grade, never graduated and hit the field circus route. The kids are praised at Kingdom Halls for being a societal drag, providing nothing of tangible value to their community. What a sham!

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Elders, Ministerial Servants & Pioneers That Should Not Have Been Appointed or Should Not Have Remained In Their Positions

by minimus in

jw
friends

were there a lot of elders, ms's and pioneers that should not have had those titles?.

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TOTH, my pioneer partner watched the meltdown you speak of, if my memory serves me correctly only one elder was kept from the "Farm House" blow-out! The detail of the "couple from Canada" kicked those neurons in! Pioneer partner headed off to find his dream man in West Hollywood, the good old days before internet. Can anyone remember the reported child sex scandal in Santa Cruz (1985-1990 time frame) area, the older JW kids were really offbase!

TOTH the "Bowling Alley" *(1983-1990) sex-a-thon? Do you recall that one?

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"My Family Appears Angry When They See Me At Meetings And Conventions, Why?"

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

i found a qoute that ruminates throughout "jw-land", dealing with strange conduct and vibes your family sends your way during "meetings".

"my family appears angry when they see me at meetings and conventions, why?

what type of religion attracts members who want their family to die at armageddon?

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"My Family Appears Angry When They See Me At Meetings And Conventions, Why?"

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

i found a qoute that ruminates throughout "jw-land", dealing with strange conduct and vibes your family sends your way during "meetings".

"my family appears angry when they see me at meetings and conventions, why?

what type of religion attracts members who want their family to die at armageddon?

ÁrbolesdeArabia

I am commenting on a thread I read today about some JW who lament's their family would rejoice if she never went to meetings again.

I've seen alot of dung in the Organization, watched the "process" turn humans into anti-christs, "he that hate's his brother (or sister) is a manslayer" (1 John 2:9). There exists loop-holes that allow members to remain in good standing, while breaking the spirit of the Mosaic Law,, and beg's the question: Why would Jesus Christ bless a religion that's full of hypocrisy? http://bible.cc/1_john/2-9.htm

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New Living Translation (©2007)
If anyone claims, "I am living in the light," but hates a Christian brother or sister, that person is still living in darkness.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
The one who says he is in the Light and yet hates his brother is in the darkness until now.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

International Standard Version (©2008)
The person who says that he is in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Whoever says, therefore, that he is in the light and hates his brother, is in darkness still.

American King James Version
He that said he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness even until now.

American Standard Version
He that saith he is in the light and hateth his brother, is in the darkness even until now.

Douay-Rheims Bible
He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

Darby Bible Translation
He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in the darkness until now.

English Revised Version
He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in the darkness even until now.

Webster's Bible Translation
He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

Weymouth New Testament
Any one who professes to be in the light and yet hates his brother man is still in darkness.

World English Bible
He who says he is in the light and hates his brother, is in the darkness even until now.

Young's Literal Translation
he who is saying, in the light he is, and his brother is hating, in the darkness he is till now;

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

He that saith he is in the light - That he has true religion, or is a Christian. See 1 John 1:7.

And hateth his brother - The word "brother" seems here to refer to those who professed the same religion. The word is indeed sometimes used in a larger sense, but the reference here appears to be to that which is properly brotherly love among Christians. Compare Lucke, in loc.

Is in darkness even until now - That is, he cannot have true religion unless he has love to the brethren. The command to love one another was one of the most solemn and earnest which Christ ever enjoined, John 15:17; he made it the special badge of discipleship, or that by which his followers were to be everywhere known, John 13:35; and it is, therefore, impossible to have any true religion without love to those who are sincerely and truly his followers. If a man has not that, he is in deep darkness, whatever else he may have, on the whole subject of religion. Compare the notes at 1 Thessalonians 4:9.