Jeff, amazing post and letter................I bow to your courage and honesty to your own principles..........kudos my friend!
Terri
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Cover Letter and Letter of Disassociation.
by AK - Jeff ini am forced to either accept df'ing without any defense [i clearly have none against charges of apostasy], or to at least 'speak my mind' one last time as i exit, with a hope of perhaps helping others to 'wake up'.. to that end - i have elected to send a letter of da to the elders - but more importantly - a copy of it, with a cover letter, to several families in the congregation.
most of these things never have a positive result, i know.
but at least i have attempted in this way to give a little defense for my position.
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How do you deal with the disorganized world?
by free2beme inokay, this is kind of an odd point, but bothers me.
in my time away from the witnesses, i have been involved in things like trade shows, athletic competitions and even some work related events.
in all cases, i am often surprised at how annoyed i get with people who can just not organize an event.
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OMG...........I thought I was the only one who had this experience!!! I first noticed it when I began temping. I was working with two experienced, seasoned educators, and they kept coming to me and asking me whether or not "this" was the way to do it or not...........we were registering kids for the following year's kindergarten classes...........I was totally shocked that I was looked upon as the authority............I found out, after working for the Board of Ed for five years, that it was so totally disorganized and chaotic, I couldn't understand how anything got done. Costly misprintings and last minute rushing to get things done was the order of the day.............and, it was costing the taxpayers of this town a small fortune. All I can do is shake my head in total disgust today, as I know from further experience, that alot of this is the norm. I've seen it in the day to day environment of the place I'm working now, a transportation company that has been in business for eighty years.
Terri
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Good news: No longer an elder; Bad news: Disappointed wife
by doinmypart inmy wife & i have a good relationship except when it comes to things dealing with the wts.
over the past few years we've both made concessions, and i even made some headway in getting her to think about some things.
but from time-to-time we would end up arguing about something wts-related and there would be days of tension between us.. well, a few weeks ago we were having a casual conversation about wildlife in our area, she mentioned something about jehovah ruining those who ruin the earth.
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The fact is, people change. Some people get married largely because of shared interests. If one or the other of them loses interest in scuba diving or whatever it is, is that anyone's fault?
Dude, it isn't selfish to be true to yourself. You aren't responsible for the expectations of someone else, even someone you love. Yes, it's disappointing for her. That's a shame, but it isn't anyone's fault.
I totally agree with Dave. If you look at the statistics, one out of two marriages end in divorce today. I love what Gill wrote, and I'm glad things turned out well for her and I hope that you and your wife can work through this period also. I ended my twenty year marriage also, as I was exiting the Borg. I had struggled for many years to make things work, and it just wasn't happening. It hurt like hell for both of us, but, we've moved on. Of course, I'm DF'd and he's still in, and remarried. My only regret is that we cannot be good friends, as I had wished. It hurts sometimes thinking of the many years we spent together, and the experiences we had, and we can't even laugh about them today...........until I reenslave myself to a false prophet religion, which will never happen.
Terri
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2007 DC theme " The jig is up. The Watchtower is not the truth. "
by 5go inafter going to this years district convention.
it seems the gb knows it's over.
i don't think the gb thinks that the watchtower is going to make it to 2014. everything was so see thru a blind could of seen thru it, and to top it off the drama sucked.
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It might look dull and uninspiring to us but I'm sure it is completly different to them . . I wish I was wrong because my parents have wasted the best part of their lives and will probably die having never discovered the truth about the truth
solo, thank you for the reminder, dear, that is soooo true. some of us who have moved far away from the pain the organization caused us need to remember, remember what that pain felt when it was a raw wound in our own breast/heart............
terri
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2007 DC theme " The jig is up. The Watchtower is not the truth. "
by 5go inafter going to this years district convention.
it seems the gb knows it's over.
i don't think the gb thinks that the watchtower is going to make it to 2014. everything was so see thru a blind could of seen thru it, and to top it off the drama sucked.
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At this chronological point in my own personal time frame, being out seven, going on eight years away, I've been re-reading "Crisis of Conscience". Honestly, a small part has been in my regaining of an old witness gf that i was very close to in the borg. she got ready for her wedding in my apartment.........we were both 24 years old, maybe....my point is that as time advances, we may, all of us, now, on the outside looking in, will be joined by old familiar witness friends........time can change alot of things.........
Terri, of the deeply grateful for an old friendship resumed, class
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FS experiences that got you doubting
by greendawn indid things happen eg people told you things that got you doubting about the wts while you were on the field service?
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i recall a girl i had never met before who was crying (after we talked for a while) for being shunned by another local congo, and i thought that it was too cruel to shun people and something was not right with the jws.
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Did things happen eg people told you things that got you doubting about the WTS while you were on the field service?
absolutely!!!! I cannot adequately share how deeply I was affected by an experience I had with a return visit I had. This was my first MAJOR wake up call from the Universe regarding my involvement with JW's.............suffice it to say that it helped lay the ground work for other moments that all culminated in me walking away from the local congregation I was part of as an elder's wife, in perfect standing. This experience ate away at me for years, before I finally left, but, I count it, along with the 1995 change of policy in the Watchtower regarding "this generation will see the end of this system" dogma, as my deepest soul telling me what I needed to continue in a greater life's purpose. I had studied in the blue "Truth" book at age 14, and been totally indoctrinated in the absolute certainty that the end was coming in 1975. My mom, still a faithful witness, corroborates this memory. She remembers the brother and his wife, then members of Watchtower Farm, sent as special pioneers to our small town in Upstate New York, to support the newly formed congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses. They studied with me, my sister, and my mother for approximately 1 year in the very early '70's...........mom remembers Jerry telling her that the end was coming in 1975. She also remembers a moment when she was studying the chapter about idols that certain religous systems use to connect with God, such as the Cross. Judy, Jerry's wife interrupted a comment Jerry was making to share that Jerry had a Cross, in his possession, that had been given to him by his mother. Mom's perception of that moment was that Jerry, while fully knowing, and especially as a member of the staff at Watchtower Farms, was still not fully practicing in his life, what the WTBTS, and the Bible, was saying about "graven images". I know, looking back, that some of my feelings and perceptions at that moment were feeble precursors of a strong intuition and "gut" feeling, even at age 14. I sometimes look back at those times and I play the game of "what if" and "if only" but, the facts remain that I walked the path I walked...............but, I am also aware today, that I have a broad range of choices and that I have a right to make my own personal choices in life.
Hugs,
Terri
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Did You Cheat at the Written Review?
by south african beef induring the boring written review, did you really prepare and look up the answers beforehand, or did you just write anything down or did you copy the superdub sitting next to you?
personally i just wrote any old thing down and ticked it as right when they read out the answers.
however when i was growing up i had to get loads right or i would face questions from my mum!
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didn't have to, always got most of it right.........usually only two or three wrong.........
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visiting forum after 4 years
by Ralon ini can recognize only few names here after leaving this site 4 years ago(i remember u blondie!)..
i was an elder/pioneer when i da myself more than 4 years ago.some of the good people here helped me so much to find the truth about jws.
and im still thankful.
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Fancy a curry in October in Manchester?
Can I come?????? (yeah, right, just wishful thinking)
Terri
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The Tapestry of Life
by cruzanheart ini'm almost 51. lately i've "seen" things differently.
i don't know if i can express it properly, but i thought this forum might be a good place to start.. .
when i was in art class in 10th grade, i had a wonderful teacher, mrs. brown, who once upon a lazy warm day, showed us how to start a picture with a center: circle, square, whatever.
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just wanted to wave hi to sunnygal41...
lol! Hey, Mike!!! I'm LOVIN' life right now............the calm and spiritual connection is soooo awesome!! Terri
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The Tapestry of Life
by cruzanheart ini'm almost 51. lately i've "seen" things differently.
i don't know if i can express it properly, but i thought this forum might be a good place to start.. .
when i was in art class in 10th grade, i had a wonderful teacher, mrs. brown, who once upon a lazy warm day, showed us how to start a picture with a center: circle, square, whatever.
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Extremely beautiful thread. The REAL meaning of life was expressed eloquently. I wish everyone thought this way. It is in everyone, yet popular opinion has deadened it.
Monkeyshine, I admire the fact that at your relatively young age you can be free to so confidently know your connection to the true Source of Life. It speaks of man's spiritual evolution that I, a former JW hardcore witness, am recovered enough in my life to see and appreciate. Many of us here were in for so long that our youth was literally spent in mental captivity, forced to believe it was normal for us all to act like little robots, programmed to turn any robot who became "sentient" enough to realize how sick and twisted our devotion to the Borg/Cult was. Add to that the statistic that most JW's are severely depressed and mentally ill, and you have a clear picture of how deeply some of us have been affected, and conversely, how deeply we feel our freedom today. Psychobabble for Nina's original observations...........
Terri