arrested for going kingdumb hall!.
last night (3/21) the mountain view (ca) police arrested me.. this happened as i was attending the sunnyvale congregation service meeting.. i was dfd last july and was told by the elders the conditions for reinstatement were meeting attendance, repentance along with not speaking to anyone or anyone speaking to me (shunning at its finest).
(btw, i was dfd for apostasy).
.>> Although a different situation, 2 years ago I was asked to leave a book study (though still in the org at the time) because I was charged with making an "apostate" comment.<<
Worf!!!
I would LOVE to know what your "apostate comment" WAS!! Care to share it with the rest of the class???
Whatever you said, I admire your courage........
hugs,
Annie
my parents made it clear to me that while i'm under their roof, i can't have _any_ communication with apostates.
obviously, that would rule out this group; so until i move (hopefully in a couple of months or so), i must be on a forced hiatus!
thanks for your kindness during the past -- what?
Hi Ephan,
According to my online "MERRIAM-WEBSTER'S", (APOSTATE--see apostasy;
Main Entry: apos·ta·sy
Pronunciation: &-'päs-t&-sE
Function: noun
1 : renunciation of a religious faith
2 : abandonment of a previous loyalty
It says, renunciation of a religious faith, which would be the term we're applying in this instance.
As Witnesses go from door-to-door, isn't the main purpose to start "bible studies" to get people to learn how THEIR present religion is false, and to get them to CHANGE their religion and become a Witness?
So, all those that become Witnesses by that method or by other ways used by the Watchtower Society, the result is the same........those people have turned away from PREVIOUS religious beliefs to become JWs, HAVE become (according to the best-known dictionary) "APOSTATES!!!!"
Before I could get baptized as a JW, I had to write a letter to my former church and, in writing, inform them that I wanted my name removed from their rolls, and just WHAT religion I was now adhering to.
Yes! At THAT time, I DID become an APOSTATE (it's such a dreaded word in the minds and hearts of JWs, isn't it?)
An apostate is NOT just a person who has left the Watchtower Society, although no one else seems to use that term.
If you could think of a polite way to bring this up to your folks, or even ask them if THEY belonged to another religion before they became Witnesses, well....you know how far you can pursue this...but it is a fact!!!
Take care, kid.
hugs,
Annie
i knew the governing body was the "dark side"!.
d8ta.
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>>Is it just me, or does the Emperor look like Fred Franz??<<
Now that you mention it......<grin>
But Fred was more vertically challenged!
hugs,
Annie
dear brothers and sisters in the worldwide brotherhood of jehovahs witnessestm,.
there has been much public interest in our beliefs lately, so we have prepared a very brief summary of our core beliefs in a new pamphlet which you may offer to interested persons.
hopefully, this pamphlet will generate enough interest with honest-hearted people and enable you to start many new bible studies.
As per usual, I'm way behind keeping up with some great posts (sigh)
GREAT stuff, Farkel!
How can ANYONE help but admire your wit and style!
From a BIG Farkel fan from many moons ago.....
hugs,
Annie
a lot of posters are signing their posts with this:.
unseen apostate directorate of north america - state.
can anyone enlighten us "the seen ones" as to what is this all about?.
>>You will be contacted later. We haven't finished all our background checks yet.<<
Two questions;
1) What "background" checks are you checking?
2) Are you considering an upstate NY chapter? (Mommy? Cygnus? LDH? lurkers? lil' old Sunspot?) check me, check me!
My credentials are open for inspection, SIR! (saluting, clicking the heels of my pink slippers)
(OMG----I'm grovelling!) and I thought I was DONE with that! (sigh)
Here for the duration....
Annie
Some days it's not worth gnawing through the straps.....
marshmallow fluff!.
http://www.learnlink.emory.edu/peep/surgery.html
SSSSHHHHHHH!!!!!!
(whispering)
People are SLEEPING here and I burst out laughing!!! Gonna get me in truuu-ble!
MY peeps are gonna get upset cuz I'm laughing at YOUR peeps!
hugs and thanks for a good laugh!
Annie
who'd a thunk it?.
the theokratic kult which is so down on pagan holidays,.
would be celebrating the most occult day of them all,.
BRAVO!!!!!
Well done, AGAIN, Tallyman!!!
And thanks also to Alan!
Hugs and kudos,
Annie
HOW could I have BEEN a part of this horror!.....
i am watching the news and it was just reported that michael jackson adopted a biracial baby about three weeks ago.
he has a nanny for the other two children, but the baby proved to much for one nanny.
michael told her that she could have a helper with the stipulation that it be one of jehovahs witnesses.
>>Maybe brother mike needs to know about the wt pedo problem.<<
My FIRST thought, SS!!
>>I wonder if he thinks ALL JWs are good caregivers!! <<
Beck, he MAY just think they ARE!!!! I thought that, too!
>>If the kid sees pictures of Old Michael vs. New Michael, he's gonna think his dad had sex with himself, heh heh.<<
Lisa--------Er, um, hmm, ---NOPE!!! I'm NOT gonna go there!!!
(But I WANTED to----LOL!) <giggle>
hugs,
Annie
i will be sending this letter/email to nbc dateline at: [email protected].
i am posting it in the event some of you decide to do something similar: you can also mail this to:.
nbc news - dateline.
P.S>
<GRIN>
My letter to Dateline is sent as well.
Shredded families and ruined lives;
The WBTS has MUCH to answer for......
Hugs,
Sunspot
i will be sending this letter/email to nbc dateline at: [email protected].
i am posting it in the event some of you decide to do something similar: you can also mail this to:.
nbc news - dateline.
>>I have no illusions about this program bringing down the JW religion. That is not the objective. But to bring in a sense of responsibility and force the JWs to change their behavior toward victims and pedophiles.<<
One of my MANY character flaws (especially where the high-and-mighty Watchtower Society is concerned), is the almost euphoric and extremely gleeful anticipation of living long enough to SEE this skillfully contrived sham of a religion go down in the tallest (I wanna SEE'em from HERE) and the most disintegrating flames possible!!!
As hateful as it sounds, it IS my objective!
When I see a post like Amazing's, I look (fleetingly---but I look) introspectively and wonder if I'M wrong in MY feelings of loathing and disgust, or maybe, the INTENSITY of my feelings is wrong or unhealthy. I really almost admire people who are so...mmmmm....I wanna say "Christian", but that isn't quite the term I'm looking for; but I WANT to see this horrible excuse for a religion fall apart at the seams---the sooner-the better!
Maybe some of us who have kids and grandkids and important friendships affected by this religion, might have a CHANCE at reconciliation without the WTS interference. If IT'S gone, the INFLUENCE will be gone, and nice people can begin to pick up the pieces of their lives and heal together.
Somehow, Amazing, I just don't "see" how the "we're never wrong" Watchtower Society would ever begin to see the error of their ways (in ANY sense, let alone changing their behavior in properly (legally)dealing with molesters and pedophiles) They'll just cry "persecution" and how "Satan" is causing all this turmoil, and never look at the ROOT cause or their "justified" treatment of their sheep.
I'm not trying to pounce on you, Amazing, or say how your thoughts are wrong........I'm just presenting MY view......Annie
Shredded families and ruined lives;
The WBTS has MUCH to answer for......
Hugs,
Sunspot
