Those 'has it's place' WT quotes from Blondie are disturbing when you see them all compiled like that. That comment from Pistoff was awesome, spot on. I think jgnat's graph highlights the fact that true Christians know eating and sleeping has its place, it comes after kingdom interests. The GB seem to be paranoid that the rank and file might be enjoying normal lives, God forbid.
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42You are EVEN ALLOWED TO HAVE SEX with your marriage mate!!
by 2+2=5 inquote from december 2012 study edition wt, we did it today - .
"even the desire for sexual pleasure with ones marriage mate is fitting and has its place.".
thanks faithfull slave.
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I Got disfellowshiped..wana die!
by Chichi89 ini jus got dissfellowshiped at th last week..i feel like dying..i attended th meetings yesterday and ita ws jus horrible..came back home in tears....... people i used to cal my friends nw cant look me in the eye..so heartbroken confused and giving up on life !.
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Sorry to hear about your situation, many here understand exactly how you feel. Take your time to read some of the stories on this site.
If you have any family that are not JWs, maybe you could talk to them, or get in touch with some of your old worldy friends. You will find many worldly people to be very kind and non judgmental.
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Lars: Can we examine your Messiah qualifications ?
by mP inhi lars,.
if you want to claim your the messiah, thats fine but first we must examine the facts and ask a few basic questions.
i am of course accepting your word as honest.. i think everybody is well aware that the messiah will come thru david.
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Any information that is critical of Lars' claims is apostasy. Even just looking at this apostate material out of curisosity can be dangerous.
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You are *bleeping* stupid, part 2 - From the April 2013 KM
by LostGeneration intitle of article "do you regularly check the information board?".
yes they are going to have a part telling people to go read the board in back!
still not using the evil term "bulletin board" eh wts?.
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The announcements kinda seem to me as another little privilege that they can gift to a qualified brother. It is like a stepping stone to the Sunday chairman or instruction talk. It use to seem that way, it has changed a bit.
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Did the Watchtower publishing organization intensionally leverage and exploit the belief in the bible to proliferate its published goods ?
by Finkelstein inafter more than 100 years there's a clear retrospective history surrounding this religious publishing.
organization which defines its inherent operations as a religious organization/institution.. the question remains, did the long list of the various leaders of this.
organization intentionally exploit the belief in the bible from the public ?.
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You put it so well Finkelstein, what else can be said. I like the point that to JWs, God's will for mankind must be that we all distribute the WTS literature, the better we are at this, the more Jehovah can use us and bless us. Sounds reasonable.
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You are *bleeping* stupid, part 2 - From the April 2013 KM
by LostGeneration intitle of article "do you regularly check the information board?".
yes they are going to have a part telling people to go read the board in back!
still not using the evil term "bulletin board" eh wts?.
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Well for those who were not there for the official briefing, how else are they to figure out how to handle the 'nested copies'? They will have to read the instructions for themselves, or ask a qualified brother to read it for them.
Come on guys, I think we are being a bit harsh on the 'celebrated Watchtower scholars'.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 02-17-2013 WT Study (TEMP RESIDENTS)
by blondie inunited nations http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm.
6. in what sense can jehovahs witnesses be.
residents, and of what?.
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This WT article seemed to be more pathetic than the usual dribble. We can have some recreation, as long it's refreshing and wholesome. May as well just leave our suit and tie on wherever we go, it is only temporary anyhow.
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You are EVEN ALLOWED TO HAVE SEX with your marriage mate!!
by 2+2=5 inquote from december 2012 study edition wt, we did it today - .
"even the desire for sexual pleasure with ones marriage mate is fitting and has its place.".
thanks faithfull slave.
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Grumblecakes, this is a little more of the quote to get some context
9 Some desires, when satisfied in the manner decreed by the Creator, are not wrong in themselves. Indeed, they add pleasure to life. For example, there are the normal desires to enjoy good food and drink, to participate in refreshing activities, and to find delight in wholesome companionship. Even the desire for sexual pleasure with one’s marriage mate is fitting and has its place. (1 Cor. 7:3-5) Peter, though, correctly limited the “fleshly desires” of which he was speaking to those that “carry on a conflict against the soul.” Making it obvious just what is meant, some Bible translations speak of “fleshly lusts” ( King James Version ) or “sinful desires” ( New International Version ). Clearly, any human desire that conflicts with Jehovah’s expressed purpose and that could negatively affect one’s good relationship with God must be kept in check. Otherwise a Christian’s hope of keeping his soul alive could be seriously endangered.
As you can see, the quote is not really taken out of context. There is a subtle message that even sex with your marriage mate might end up getting you killed at Armageddon. Any human desire. Best to stick to studying the WT and praying to the GB, this will keep us safe when the Big A strikes. Which by the way is still SOON, here is another gem from the same article
7 Soon Christ will exercise his authority to destroy Satan’s wicked system
I hate soon. They never define it, and they use it constantly now in articles and talk outlines. Soon. . . . Is that within 5yrs, 20yrs. . . . .200yrs.
The Watchower speak is so painful. 'participate in refreshing activities' and 'find delight in wholesome companionship'. SHUT UP!! Please STOP!!
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You are EVEN ALLOWED TO HAVE SEX with your marriage mate!!
by 2+2=5 inquote from december 2012 study edition wt, we did it today - .
"even the desire for sexual pleasure with ones marriage mate is fitting and has its place.".
thanks faithfull slave.
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Next they will say something like " Not all who marry automatically qualify for sexual privileges. Newly married couples should approach the Elders, these spiritual men will prayerfully consider if such intimate encounters are appropriate, taking into consideration such things as meeting attendance, the quality of their ministry and attitude towards others who are already enjoying sexual pleasures. Jehovah will surely bless all those who cooperate with this loving arrangement"
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You are EVEN ALLOWED TO HAVE SEX with your marriage mate!!
by 2+2=5 inquote from december 2012 study edition wt, we did it today - .
"even the desire for sexual pleasure with ones marriage mate is fitting and has its place.".
thanks faithfull slave.
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This reminds me of the 'announcement' the Society made at the Peace On Earth International Assembly for couples to 'not engage in marital relations' as it would make them to tired for the next day's assembly activities. Assemblies then ran to 9:00PM. Pretty ballsie.
Your kidding. This religion looks so crazy to the outsiders looking in.