Excellent post. Simple and to the point. I am going to get some of my non JW family to use this with my JW family.
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Is Blind Obedience to group of men supported by Scripture?
by nugget ini have been pondering over the demands made by the governing body for absolute loyalty and unquestioning obedience to their interpretation of scripture.
is this a reasonable request and is it in line with scripture?
alternatively is there in fact a scriptural defence for taking personal responsibility for beliefs and having a questioning attitude when being told what is to be believed.. there are ample scriptural warnings about trusting in men psalm 146 v 3 warns us not to put our trust in nobles or earthly men and galatians 1 v 8 goes even further stating that even if an angel were to preach to us something contrary to the teachings of christ it should be ignored.
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Another Newbie
by Skinnedsheep ini recently came to the realization that the organization is corrupt and is false.
my story is similar to many i think.
i was raised in the religion, pioneered and served as an elder for a number of years.
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Hello and welcome Skinnedsheep.
For me it was 1914/607 that opened the floodgates. This got me researching the Organizations history and it became very clear that "the truth" was a steaming pile of crap. I think researching 1914 is responsible for many waking up.
Many who served as elders, got to see that the holy spirit has little to do with the decisions and direction of this organization.
I don't think the latest new light will be directly responsible for waking up many JWs, although it may add another doubt in the mind of some, which could be enough to get them researching thier beliefs and the history of thier religion. "The Truth" does not hold up very well to scrutiny.
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Do you feel guilty?
by new hope and happiness ini have recently been having a feeling of guilt for having escaped the w.t while so many friends and family remain trapped.. has anyone else ever had similar feelings?.
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Not guilty, but I feel sorry for the many good people who are victims of this religion. There is not much someone who learns TTATT can do to help others learn, because the WT indoctrination has taught them to quickly reject ideas that contradict or are critical of the WT.
I have older relatives who put off having children back in the 70's because the new system was imminent. It is better to leave them live in the delusion of a "new system", because the reality would be to cruel. They have wasted their life believing in a lie.
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2013 MEMORIAL ATTENDANCE & DC BAPTISM NUMBERS SOUGHT
by steve2 inare the numbers available for either the 2013 memorial attendance or baptisms at the current round of district conventions in the usa or any other countries?
thanks.
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I know that the memorial attendance in my kingdum hall (Australia) was as low as I have seen. It is usually overly crowded but this year it was just comfortably full. Everyone I asked from different congs said their attendance was either average or down slightly.
This religion will get more obscure with each passing year.
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Supernatural Or Coincidence? YOU Decide.
by Cold Steel inokay, this is pretty weird.
is it really supernatural?
or is it just my imagination?.
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Looks like the Demons have taken control of your wife's white nylon garment. There is no other reasonable explanation.
I would suggest you burn it, although it will almost certainly not burn.
I have read eerily similar experiences in the scientific journal entitled Awake!.
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If Noah had family worship night in the ark...what's your excuse!?!?!?!?!?!
by LostGeneration infunny picture in new public watchtower.
evidently there was a digital camera taking pictures about 3,500 years ago.
noah had family worship night in the ark, so all you slackers have no excuse!
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Noah and his family were in a cult, no doubt.
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BODY FAT on current GOVERNING BODY members verus FRANZ-ERA GB members
by Calebs Airplane inhas anyone noticed that the gb 2.0 is a lot heavier than the gb 1.0?.
at their age, a normal percentage of body fat should be somewhere in the 18-24% range.. so let's go down the list and see who gets the most invites to dinner.... anthony morris iii - 34% body fatsamuel herd - 40% body fatstephen lett - 29% body fatdavid splane - 25% body fatguy pierce - 24% body fatgerrit losch - 38% body fatgeoffrey jackson - 39% body fattom sanderson - 27% body fatnow that's a whole lotta fat.
frederick franz would be furious.. .
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Ah yes, and the bald heads are for wisdom.
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Is this true? Don't Call 911 If The Guy In The Next Seat Falls Ill at The DC?
by Room 215 inthis from a recent thread: .
"recent ridiculous instructions about not calling 9-1-1 yourself at district conventions if someone is having a heart attack but, instead, telling an attendant, who is supposed to let the first aid department know so they can come and assess the person and then call the paramedics.".
i hadn't heard this before.... sadly, it seems in perfectly in character for them.
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The heart attack victim might be a peadophile....... best just deal with it in house.
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BODY FAT on current GOVERNING BODY members verus FRANZ-ERA GB members
by Calebs Airplane inhas anyone noticed that the gb 2.0 is a lot heavier than the gb 1.0?.
at their age, a normal percentage of body fat should be somewhere in the 18-24% range.. so let's go down the list and see who gets the most invites to dinner.... anthony morris iii - 34% body fatsamuel herd - 40% body fatstephen lett - 29% body fatdavid splane - 25% body fatguy pierce - 24% body fatgerrit losch - 38% body fatgeoffrey jackson - 39% body fattom sanderson - 27% body fatnow that's a whole lotta fat.
frederick franz would be furious.. .
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I typed in sarcastia font.
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Why won't JWs have "civilized" debates with home owners?
by ilikecheese init seems kind of crazy to go to someone's house touting your religion as truth and then not even defend your own beliefs.
why do jws stop the chat if someone just tries to calmly reason/debate with them?
i'm not talking about crazy preachers who start slamming bibles and yelling about how they need jesus or something.
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wha happened, you had your chance to serve Jehovah. You blew it. Too bad for you.
This is why I love this place, someone is always cracking jokes. Keep 'em coming.