just out of the blue i asked my wife whos been a jw for some 30 odd years can she explain the overlapping doctrine.
she said to me she never heard of this and said she will have to look it up.
i thought oh s#^%!.
His comment....and this blows me away..... "Like what?"
Why would you expect him, as a zealous JW, to say anything different? He wanted to know what issues you meant. This is an opportunity to give him some new information, so it's exactly the response you should have wanted.
just wondering if any one has heard from ones still asleep, what their feedback has been and what comments have been made by the rank and file??.
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What's that scripture about how 'the whole assembly of them were in confusion and didn't know why they had been called together'? Basically the zone visit was a meeting meant for Bethelites and for some reason it got accidentally broadcast to much of the JW world and we were accidentally asked to watch it. It had little to do with us and I have no idea why they didn't broadcast the annual meeting instead.
I do know one thing... people with weight problems shouldn't be bragging about their ability to get to breakfast on time.
my neighbor told me she had been talking about me recently.
"i was saying to carrie in the office i just don't see how anyone can deny the existence of a higher power.
she needed some q-tips, and found a box of them on the free table by the office.
Good for you, Hortensia. I know you don't want to offend your hippy-dippy neighbors, but sometimes, even if it doesn't change their mind, for your own sake you have to stand up for logic and reason.
to give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
Any conversation you have with them is likely to be very uncomfortable but failing to have an honest conversation about their planning for the future and whether that should adversely affect your own future and those of your own family is ultimately going to hurt them more in the long run.
Yes, and this is easier said than done, but don't wait until they are running out of money and turning to you before you inform them that you can't help them out with financial support. They need to know that now, or soon.
to give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
I am pondering the idea about talking to his elders about it... Just for the record, he is an elder too. DOes that make a difference?
Ugh, it might. It may depend how intimidated other elders are by your father, or how chummy they are with him. But if you approach them with the right tone of concern in your voice (and I don't think you'll have trouble being sincere), then it might do the trick.
we've had a few comments lately that show that people don't seem to fully comprehend the way moderation works or the point of it.. if someone point something that other people don't like or agree with then that is a difference of opinion.
live with it.. if someone posts something that is crude, insulting, contains bad language etc.
then it violates the posting guildelines and can and should be removed.. now, sometimes we won't immediately notice a post that should be removed.
I don't feel that I've personally been treated unfairly by moderation but I do feel compelled to say something on behalf of many posters here who probably do not have much forum-going experience outside of JWN.
I have, however, lost dozens of posts that were made in threads that were deleted for unknown reasons. I don't know what threads they were or what I said in them or how long I spent saying it (some of my posts take 30-60 minutes to write). I only know something happened when my total post count goes below my last post number or I see my "Topics Posted On" list shrink -- but I have no way to know what disappeared from that list, which is 106 pages long currently. So that's an example of a practical concern of mine.
It comes down to trust. You have to trust the people running any site that they are doing the best they can for the right reasons. If you don't then you really should just leave and find someplace you do.
So basically we just have to trust an unknown group of people to have our best interests at heart? It's hard to trust people we don't know, who take actions that are not documented publicly. One cannot even see if someone is banned or for what reasons they were banned. I hope that you at least have a backend way of seeing what your mods are doing.
I'm not intending to sound disgruntled over all this, but I'm not sure what I think of the response that 'People have a problem with authority after their Watchtower experience, so the way to deal with their questioning of our actions is shadow moderation, so nobody knows who to argue with'.
the only video that i've found of tomo is 39:00 minutes long - the ending is missing.. various posts mentioned highlights of the tremendous witness in august, with a 900% increase in ap's, as well as some other magnificent accomplishment that i cannot locate.. then i painfully listened to the video to verify, and at about 38:00, tomo bemoans the downward trend in bible studies.. the best august of all-time, yet downward trend.. looks like the toilet bowl is swirling.. .
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Baptisms were also trumpeted by one of the speakers -- something about 'a whole new congregation baptized every week' or something. He neglected to mention how many of those baptisms were of born-ins. I mean, jeez, of course there's tons of baptisms, there's 8 million JWs, and they haven't stopped having kids, last time I checked.
we've had a few comments lately that show that people don't seem to fully comprehend the way moderation works or the point of it.. if someone point something that other people don't like or agree with then that is a difference of opinion.
live with it.. if someone posts something that is crude, insulting, contains bad language etc.
then it violates the posting guildelines and can and should be removed.. now, sometimes we won't immediately notice a post that should be removed.
I don't mean to sound like a malcontent, but I have to say, I've been on a lot of forums in my day, and I've never seen one that is shadow-moderated like this one is. Posts and whole threads will disappear with nary a reason given, and the deleter is not heard from or identified. In fact, one cannot even (to my knowledge) view a list of moderators, and they are not identified by any title under their name when they post. So I don't really think people can be blamed for being curious or disoriented by the way moderation takes place here.
to give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
You know what? I think elders might agree with you that your parents are being unreasonable, BU2B. Sorry I'm not familiar with your situation w.r.t. the religion, but could you get an elder or two to talk to your parents? They can show some scriptures to your parents (like the one about 'counting the cost') that will encourage them to be more balanced. Coming from the elders, this advice might turn the mentality of "Satan wants me to go back to work" over to "Jehovah is telling me to go back to work". Your dad isn't going to get work offers for much longer if he's in his late 50s.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2829642/cold-war-shoulder-vladimir-putin-gives-barack-obama-cool-glare-beijing-summit-offering-friendly-pat-back.html.
putin is smirking as if to say, "you're just not in on the joke".
take note of the other facial expressions as well.. i can can speculate at length but i see a man who 'plays checkers' surrounded by chess masters.
That's interesting about the flight test. Some people also thought that the date of Russia's FOAB test in 2007 was interesting (9/11).
As far as the U.S. focus on Russia rather than China, could it be that they don't think China is as likely to become an aggressor as Russia? That being said, I think we can be confident that they are keeping a close eye on China even if they don't talk about China a lot. But China is not making actual threatening moves like taking over the Ukraine.
