Posts by DeWandelaar

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What if...

by DeWandelaar in

i was having a short conversation with my neighbour.

they are very nice people and they are moslim.

because the weather is getting more extremer by the day (all over the world) and it was cold this morning i started talking about the weather.

Phizzy, I totally agree with what you are saying but still... my eyes are not fooling me... I see that a lot of things that are surely are not natural are occuring. I do not believe in bible and quran prophecies BUT it IS disturbing what is happening!

In denmark and scandinavia they had the warmest winter in a LONGGGG time while in our country our butts were freezing off (AND also in a later period). In tropical lands hail and snow is occuring! They never even saw that in their lifetime! At least something is swifting so I was wondering if there is a scientific reason why this is occuring?

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What if...

by DeWandelaar in

i was having a short conversation with my neighbour.

they are very nice people and they are moslim.

because the weather is getting more extremer by the day (all over the world) and it was cold this morning i started talking about the weather.

DeWandelaar

I was having a short conversation with my neighbour. They are very nice people and they are Moslim. Because the weather is getting more extremer by the day (all over the world) and it was cold this morning I started talking about the weather. That I kind of feel that the seasons are somehow "shifting". Last year for example winter took more then a month longer than it was before and plantgrowth was delaying by about two months. That is most extrordinary.

Then she told me: "well... according to the Quran and the Bible these things would happen in the time of the end. Now it is even snowing in Sauodi Arabia which never occurs. They are signs that the end is near".

I know that many organisations around the globe are talking about the end. Not only witnesses but also muslims and christian denominations. I have pasted something about the blood moons a couple of times and for some reason, although i take it with quite a bit of salt, it somehow "tugs" on my brain. Not that I am scared or worried too much... but the questions arises... what if it IS the end (not saying that it necessarily is the JW version of the end)?!

It somehow is still interesting... but also depressing

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Talking with a nonbeliever...

by suavojr in

in my search for the truth and the burning desire to become free from all forms of dogma and wishful thinking.

i have approached my first crossroads in my life, should i continue to believe in a god or not?.

currently i am leaning toward agnosticism, but all the suffering in the world, all the loss and pain in my own life makes it hard for me to simply let go of the idea and hope that at the end justice will prevail, that one day god can make it all good.. .

DeWandelaar

You say children are not born atheists... but are they borne theists then? They are born and at that point have absolutely no clue... so they get trained to learn whatever the parents are willing to learn. That is where it starts. So... it is all based on references.

When it comes to religion and/or God there are too many assumptions... and assumptions can never be seen as total proof... not even likely proof.

If God is justice then he would never allow (or himself being able) to anihilate the people that are living now. He can not in any way blame people for not believing him. There are simply too many loose ends.

So ... even IF Gods exists, why would he choose for the hard way? And if he wants to be known as a loving God... Why doesn't he do his utmost best to BE loved? It is like an abusive father who kicks te crap out of his kids and demands them to love him... see what I mean?

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Meeting Today

by lambsbottom in

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me and the spouse looked over the wt and decided it wouldn't be in our best spiritual interest to stay for the wt (we usually don't anymore).. so, took the kids to the public talk (was actually great, nice brother), took them outside for a snack and snuggled/played...and then left (an hour early).. .

felt great!

gotta do what you know is best for you spiritually!

DeWandelaar

Lol at billy hahaha

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I've only JUST worked this out....

by quellycatface in

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many times at the kh i heard the various brothers boasting how the kh had good numbers in attendance and the churches of christendom did not.. i 've just worked out why this is; you cannot leave.

you either fade, get df'd or da yourself.

talk about hobson's choice.. talk about me seeing the light!!!.

DeWandelaar

Better late than never... ;)

But serious: I think many are feeling that way...

It is like a fly trap... you can get in but you can not get out

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Could i possily be one of the sealed?

by msconcerned in

i went to the meeting last night, (with the start of a beard) and going throught he book study i had a thought.

god our "heavenly father" wants us to have a personal relationship with him because he is love.

well my brain disconnected from this thinking because if the bible was "written primarily for the anointed" and the benefits in the bible can only be mine because of "association" with the anointed, then i can never have a personal relationship with god or jesus.

DeWandelaar

HAHAHAHA @ Snare!

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Why Do Some Ex-JWs Get Their Feelings Hurt So Badly By Shunning?

by RottenRiley in

i ran in to a ex-jw and had a good laugh once he realized i was not going to shun him.

i am a different soul when we are dealing with watchtower demonology, everything about the organization is fan boy based.

watchtower creates the illusion of a community that never existed, we were too blind to realize most of the people we invested time with was nothing more than a farce, once you can't offer up more sacrfices on the watchtower's alter, your going to get less attention and eventually if your kingdom hall is big enough, they won't come looking for you.. .

DeWandelaar

I think he is a troll :P

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Re: Use of revised New World Translation

by pixel in

this letter will be read this week.

you read it here first!.

re: use of revised new world translation .

DeWandelaar

Well... it does not matter which bible you use... it stays bullshit but with a different color

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Most Ridiculous Thing You've Ever Been Counseled On

by MrFreeze in

i'm sure topics like this have already come up but they tend to get hilarious with the absolute absurdity that goes on in the kh.

i was once counseled for not shaving after two days.

i was also counseled by a sister for eating lucky charms cereal.

DeWandelaar

We once got counselled (public need talk) by the PO not interfering in a conversation since it is quite disturbing if you are talking with someone and get interrupted. The next meeting he interrupted a conversation of me and I kindly remembered him about his own talk :P

There have probably been many more things I have been counseled about but they must not have been important since I either do not remember or they have been mentioned by others here who got the same "counceling".

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Top evolution researchers agree: There is A Creator! The Watchtower is Right!

by mariu in

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okay, it's just one scientist: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201404/frederic-dumoulin-interview/.

but he's a very eminent one!.

for more than a decade, frederic dumoulin has worked in the field of pharmaceutical research ... studied the effects of medications and toxins on living creatures ... such design simply could not have evolved.

DeWandelaar

" studied the effects of medications and toxins on living creatures" ... now THAT is how you should treat the creatures of God... stuff them with medicines to test what will happen :P