Just to make sure people do not get the wrong impression: I do not believe that this will be the end. I am just saying that this is quite a lot of fuzz in some christian communities (and maybe even jewish ones).
DeWandelaar
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Blood Moons in the Passover being a sign... Debunked pretty easily
by ILoveTTATT inso there is lots of buzz on the internet, and lots of buzz probably even among jw's, that in 2014 in the passover there will be a blood moon... supposedly that's a sign.... .
what a load of bull.... .
a couple of seconds of critical thinking, and a little googling, and you reach the following conclusion:.
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Blood Moons in the Passover being a sign... Debunked pretty easily
by ILoveTTATT inso there is lots of buzz on the internet, and lots of buzz probably even among jw's, that in 2014 in the passover there will be a blood moon... supposedly that's a sign.... .
what a load of bull.... .
a couple of seconds of critical thinking, and a little googling, and you reach the following conclusion:.
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DeWandelaar
Thing is not 1 but 4 on the most imprtant jewish dates within ONE year + eclips in between. One is not extrordinary but 4 has only occured 7 times before within 4000 years (that is what some christian websites say).
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Marriage Consummation - emailed question has me stumped
by jwfacts ini received an email from a jw that got married, but the wife never had sex with him.
they were together for a period of years.
he told the elders, but they said there was nothing that could be done.
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DeWandelaar
Saddening isn't it? Finally getting married and then you do not get to unload the gun or blow the whistle... it is really a shame
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Marriage Consummation - emailed question has me stumped
by jwfacts ini received an email from a jw that got married, but the wife never had sex with him.
they were together for a period of years.
he told the elders, but they said there was nothing that could be done.
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DeWandelaar
@XBEHERE indeed... "I do not know what is more scary, the fact that we lost a nuclear bomb or that it happens so often we actually have a term for it"
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Marriage Consummation - emailed question has me stumped
by jwfacts ini received an email from a jw that got married, but the wife never had sex with him.
they were together for a period of years.
he told the elders, but they said there was nothing that could be done.
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DeWandelaar
It happens quite often I think... I recall a situation here were they never had sex and afterwards SHE left lol
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Attention Governing Body: October 2, 2014 is only 940 days away...
by Alfred inin 1823, john aquila brown (a man who is not mentioned in any wt publication) came up with a bizarre mathematical calculation which totalled 2,520 years (in an unauthorized attempt to predict the end of the gentile times).... several religions recycled this bizarre calculation, including the adventists and the bible students... when armageddon didn't come on the variety of early 20th century dates predicted by several "dooms-day" religions of that time (including charles taze russell's bible students who predicted that the big a would start in 1914), they all finally realized that this 2,520-year calculation was nothing more than arbitrary mathematical speculation derived from erratic biblical extrapolation.... except for the bible students who continued to move up the date for armageddon 2 more times (1918, 1925) and then decided to use wwi as the starting point for the "last days".. all the while, one thing that seems to remain intact is the october 2, 1914 date.
oddly, for the watchtower bible & tract publishing cult, this particular date still marks the end of the 2,520-year period (that john aquila brown referred to in his bizarre 1823 book "the even tide")... again, no mention of this in any watchtower publication.
but, for jws, that date still remains the starting point for the period of time often referred to as the "last days" or even "the generation that shall not pass".. because of this, the governing body has been forced to change the definition of "the generation that shall not pass" countless times since the early 1970's.
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DeWandelaar
We won't make it to october 2014... in april it will be game over... right after the memorial (which sadly I will not go to) :P
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Did You Ever Learn Anything From The Meetings?
by minimus ini found the meetings to be especially boring from the late 1980s on.
before that, we actually tried to make people want to listen.
the meetings were pretty interesting.
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DeWandelaar
I learned it was possible to bore people to death within 5 minutes....
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The Bible's Buried Secrets, new findings on how the ancient Israelites became supposedly monotheistic
by Finkelstein ini viewed this tv series recently and found the information interesting to say the least.. here is part 2 which got my attention the most.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyd0lzmile8.
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DeWandelaar
I have seen a couple of fragments and I am impressed. Especially the garden of eden theory seems reasonable (need to finish that one yet) especially when taking the time it was written in context.
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The Bible's Buried Secrets, new findings on how the ancient Israelites became supposedly monotheistic
by Finkelstein ini viewed this tv series recently and found the information interesting to say the least.. here is part 2 which got my attention the most.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyd0lzmile8.
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DeWandelaar
Will watch the video's later. There is actually a lot of evidence and directions to know that the israelites were polytheistic (abraham's family had more gods and even images... also jacobs wife had a image of a god with her. I have written earlier about the use of the bull's as a God which originated in Canaan (El deity) en the worship of Asherah (there are some amazing articles on this site about that!).
What striked me as strange also was the fact that after the "false idol" at the mount of sinai the levites were ordered to butcher 3000 people while God himself did not tell moses to do so did he? I mean... he had stricken down a shitload of israelites years later and had wasted an whole entire army of egyptians and he could not kill these idol worshippers himself? You see? Why would moses butcher them (IF he ever existed that is)?
No... Genesis and the whole torah were written long after these socalled events.
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Should I allow my mom to see the grandchildren?
by confusedandalone inso i am not officially da/do yet and my family has shunned me hard.
today crying my mother calls me to beg to see my children... should i let her?
i feel that if you can speak abusive of your own son and wife and shun the.
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DeWandelaar
I am sorry this is happening to you. My point of view is this one:
Your kids are yours... not hers. If she shuns you as a consequence of you DA/DF (or fading) she needs also bear the consequences of the shunning part (not seeing the people that are attached to you). JW's are mostly people who think in rights but not in obligations.
Since they are your kids they need to play according to your rules.
Stand up for yourself ;)