You can't escape Jehovah's wrath. Even in your car, he can get to you:
Ps. 83:15 - So pursue them with Your Tempest And terrify them with Your storm.
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to defeat "jehovah", all you need to do is sit in your car.. judges 1:19.
"and the lord was with judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.".
You can't escape Jehovah's wrath. Even in your car, he can get to you:
Ps. 83:15 - So pursue them with Your Tempest And terrify them with Your storm.
i have had a couple of discussions about freewill lately but it seems as if i am talking to a brick wall.
here is my basic reasoning, perhaps you can point out what i am missing.. lets outline the 2 common assumptions normally associated with the debate concerning adam, god and freewill:.
2. god gave adam freewill to obey him or not to.
grave,
Can't say I don't understand. I would be lying if I said I hadn't had those same thoughts before. Hope you find what you're looking for. Best of luck!
- sunstarr
i have had a couple of discussions about freewill lately but it seems as if i am talking to a brick wall.
here is my basic reasoning, perhaps you can point out what i am missing.. lets outline the 2 common assumptions normally associated with the debate concerning adam, god and freewill:.
2. god gave adam freewill to obey him or not to.
Gravedancer -
I certainly agree that my analogy compares apples with oranges. That's partially why I introduced it. I believe the question you raise does just the same. It seems to me that the question tries to rationalize free will vs. omniscience in human terms. Our frame of reference is warped when trying to define this conflict. I'm sure many on this board would find fault with me suggesting that it's possible despite our understanding why; however, that's my take on the situation. I certainly believe that we have free will. Even more so do I believe that God is "Almighty." If I find conflict with that based on my human thinking, then I suppose I'd write it off to something understood by God. That's good enough for me. Although many have left the organization and come to a greater determination that everything has to make sense, I have left with the determination that it isn't always necessary to understand why or how.
i have had a couple of discussions about freewill lately but it seems as if i am talking to a brick wall.
here is my basic reasoning, perhaps you can point out what i am missing.. lets outline the 2 common assumptions normally associated with the debate concerning adam, god and freewill:.
2. god gave adam freewill to obey him or not to.
Guess I'm a little slow today. Could someone explain to me how knowledge of an outcome eliminates the possibility of free will in that outcome. Doesn't lack of free will imply that action is taken to prevent the freedom? How about this perspective:
You tape a football game while you're away from home. The next day you and your buddy (who's already seen the game) watch it together. Since he knows the outcome of the game, does that mean that the players did not have free will when playing the game? The difference with God is that he's watching the game before it's actually played. Does this change the rules of free will?
and do you know why it only takes one??
they don't even know the lightbulb is freaking burned out!
they would all sit in this freaking house in the dark for days before they tried to figure it out!
"How many women does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"
Just one. But how would we get into the lightbulb?
most people are under the impression that the watchtower.
don't break up families, well people lets give them a. few examples.
since i left the jehovah witnesses my mother .
3 Sisters
3 Nephews
2 Nieces
3 Aunts
Countless cousins
In-laws & the like
the link to my post is found here:.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main.
the link to the article is found here:.
You got me pegged, big guy.
the link to my post is found here:.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main.
the link to the article is found here:.
If that's what it smells like, Fred, why do you keep your head up there so often?
the link to my post is found here:.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main.
the link to the article is found here:.
Fred, your breath stinks. Have you been eating your own poo again?
the link to my post is found here:.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main.
the link to the article is found here:.
Gosh Fred, not everyone can live out some deranged feline fetish and post on a board that supposedly undermines their entire system of beliefs. We should all try to be more like you.
You're a weirdo.