LOL @ SingSongBoi. I agree.
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dear brothers and sisters.. i cannot answer all singularly because i am not capable of know all and well the english language,(if you find someone that help me will be excellent) but i can explain that, this big international association denominated alpha club, is the first time of the instauration of a new economic system.. from italy, we are preparing the bases of an international coins, for be expendable, in all country where this project will be operative.. in a world where the big of the finance are only preoccupied of save his profits, we are inserting a newconcept of to do finance and trade.. how real witnesses of god, we must be completely separated from the sistem of the beast 666, commercially, spiritually, politically.. with this new economic system, this is possible.. enrico frassinetti
LOL @ SingSongBoi. I agree.
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=68&u=/nyt/20020329/ts_nyt/towers_withstood_impact__but_fell_to_fire__report_says .
oooh boy.
they must think we're really stupid.
OOOH boy. They must think we're really stupid. They're not even being subtle about it anymore...
But the buildings were able to redistribute loads away from damaged columns so well that they could probably have remained standing indefinitely if not for the fires
Correct. The steel in those buildings was so strong that they only swayed 3 FEET in powerful winds, miraculous considering they were about .25 miles high.
The ability of the two towers to withstand aircraft impact without immediate collapse was a direct function of their design and construction characteristics, as was the vulnerability of the two towers to collapse as a result of the combined effects of the impacts and ensuing fires
The first part is perfectly correct, but I choked on the second half of this sentence.
What is already clear is that the jet fuel played a role somewhat different, though still critical, than some experts had speculated. After the planes slammed into the towers, the fireballs that burst over Lower Manhattan consumed perhaps a third of the 10,000 gallons of fuel on board each plane, for example, but did little structural damage themselves, the report says.
Correct.
Like a giant well of lighter fluid, though, the remaining fuel burned within minutes, setting ablaze furniture, computers, paper files and the planes' cargo over multiple floors and igniting the catastrophic inferno that brought the towers down.
BS!!! That fuel would have evaporated so rapidly that there is now way the steel could have had enough heat applied to it to melt. In fact, other people have calculated that in order for this scenario to be correct, the buildings would have had to have had compressed O2 pumped into them. So get it straight right now - the Government of America wants you to believe that a paper/plastic fire in a few isolated offices brought down buildings with steel cores so strong they only swayed 3 feet in the wind. Lovely. Anybody here care to tell me exactly how hot paper and plastic burns? I'm sure it's a hell of a lot lower than the melting temperature of STEEL!
The report is also significant for what it does not include
Couldn't have said it better myself if I tried
With the exception of a few contorted steel beams from 5 World Trade Center, a nine-story office building that also burned and had localized collapses because the beams failed where they were bolted together, little evidence collected from the piles of debris contributed in a meaningful way to the report's conclusions.
Gee, no kidding!
That absence could intensify criticism of an early decision by the city to recycle steel from the trade center rather than make it immediately available for collection and analysis by the research team. About 60 pieces of trade center steel are being sent to the technology institute for the investigation, so future analysis could provide additional answers.
I wonder who'll be choosing exactly which beams of steel to send to the Labs? Yep - you guessed it.
The draft report also does not contain any discussion of what could become a contentious new issue in attempts to explain why the south tower, though struck after the north tower, fell first. That question involves a program, started after the 1993 bombing of the towers, to increase the thickness of the fireproofing on the lightweight steel joists that held up the floors.
POPPYCOCK!
Team members are carefully debating what role that difference may have played in the length of time the towers stood after impact: 56 minutes, 10 seconds for the south tower and 102 minutes, 5 seconds for the north. But there are several other possible explanations. The plane that struck the south tower was moving at least 100 miles an hour faster than the other one, heightening the energy upon impact. And it hit 10 floors lower, resulting in far more weight from above bearing down on the damaged area.
OK, I'll admit that this is a good point, but you've gotta remember that jumbos are basically giant cylinders of metal, paper-thin metal. Basically nothing except jet fuel and vapour hit the central columns by the time they finished slicing through the outer core of metal surrounding the WTC buildings.
Stripped of its fireproofing, a steel column heats up much more quickly in a fire. The hotter the steel, the less it is able to support loads, as it eventually becomes as soft as licorice. Investigators believe that the structural steel was also greatly imperiled because the sprinklers and standpipes supplying water for firefighting were almost certainly disabled, their supply pipes cut by debris sent flying in the initial crash.
The melting point of steel and the way it melts is quite different to what these people are saying. As I've repeated earlier, you'd need bottled O2 and a continuous fire to get this sort of melting.
Wide plates called spandrels tied the exterior steel columns together, creating a rigid surface that could resist hurricane-force winds.
Yep.
But the fires continued to burn. Black smoke poured from shattered windows on floor after floor, fresh oxygen sucked in from the gaping holes caused by the impacts. In the northeast corner of the south tower's 80th floor, where office furniture had been shoved by the plane, the fire burned so hot that a stream of molten metal began to pour over the side like a flaming waterfall.
DAMN! I was wrong! Steel melts so quickly these these O2-starved/evaporated jet fuel/plastic/paper fires that it turns into a magical waterfall of molten metal!
The apparent source of this waterfall: molten aluminum from the jet's wings and fuselage, which had also piled up in that corner.
AH, so I WAS right...whew...what a relief!
Unfolding at a slower pace, the disaster at the north tower will require study before it can be explained in such detail.
Yeah, it'll take a while to think up believable propoganda about THAT building, won't it?
The building stood for more than an hour and a half. Videos of the north tower's collapse appear to show that its television antenna began to drop a fraction of a second before the rest of the building. The observations suggest that the building's steel core somehow gave way first, pulling down the rest of the tower with it.
Great. So not only does jet fuel continue burning for 104 minutes, without forced external O2 input, under extremely low pressure (virtually sea-level pressure), but it can also rapidly melt the steel core of one of the strongest buildings in the world, and melt it for so long that it turns into liquourice. YEAH BABY.
Long post, I know, but I needed to set the record straight.
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i, the undersigned, agree that.... .
1. in the unlikely event of my not having an orgasm after you've drunkenly rolled on top of me and pumped away for five minutes, wheezing like an old man with emphysema, i shall politely fake one.
and it'll be a really good act too, with me saying stuff like "so this is screwing!
*LOL*
I've printed up a hundred copies!
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my experience.
read, enjoy.. i grew up in another religion.
i believed in everything i heard.
Positive experiences as a Dub?
ZERO!!!
All I remember is a mind-control cult who's meetings were so stupifyingly boring that my brain wanted to crawl out of my nostrils and strangle me!!!
And remember, my dearest Brother, that the love of most people in the WTBTS is very shallow indeed. Stop going to meetings regularly, say something against an Elder, or even question the most ridiculous of their doctrines, and you are labelled a "bad influence" and your 'friends' are no more. Ever heard of something called "conditional friendship"? Try questioning a WTBTS doctrine or the GB members and you'll soon find out what it means.
Love amongst the Brothers? It's a sham, if you ask me.
now is that bizarre, but people don’t protest that on the net
I could tell you about quite a few bizarre parts of being a Dub, but I suspect it would be a waste of bandwidth, because you seem to be convinced.
The people who were at once at their end of their rope, I have seen first hand- were helped and their lives changed
Yes, if you neuter a tomcat he will have a much better, more peaceful life. 'Better' is relative, my friend. I'd rather be an unhappy Apostate than a happy Dub, thank you very much. Better a free cockroach than a beautiful lion in a cage.
There are so much negative responses, I really don’t need them here. Thank You.
Well, would you be positive if an Organization enslaved you for a very large fraction of your life? I doubt it. But then, nobody's hand can touch their elbow, and until you learn to think for yourself I doubt that you'll even know what it's like to be free.
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Perhaps the Dateline people should team up with us Apostates and put a small, virtually invisible camera in one of the KHs one night, and then the next day they can show how a DFd/apostate person gets shunned inside their very own KHs. Then we can all take bets on how quickly the WTBTS will remove that bit of their website's FAQ where they say that people who simply stop being involved are "not shunned" *COUGH*---BS---*COUGH*
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h2o received an email from a source that requested anonymity with a recent letter dated march 18, 2002 on united nations letterhead with a signature block containing the name lyutha al-mughairy, chief liaison service, department of public information (for the united nations).. this letter was regarding some information about the united nations' former un ngo member, the watchtower bible & tract society of new york (member since 1992).. first read this recent united nations letter, posted on h2o's web site in its contributed section at this link:.
http://www.geocities.com/hourglass2.geo/contributed/un-wts-letter-3-28-2002.html.
note: the letter was converted from microsoft word format to html format to conserve space.
As per usual, the WTBTS is dodging and diving. But this is QUITE damning. What the WTBTS is saying in their reply to the person who phoned them is nonsense, according to the UN. I only wish this letter could be burnt into the face of the frikking moon or something so nobody could ignore it, because sure as hell, the WTBTS are going to try and bury this particularly damning piece of writing as quickly as they can - after all, what the R&F doesn't know won't hurt them...[>:(]
[SYN], UADA - Unseen Apostate Directorate of Africa - For Great Justice!
jehovahs witnesses would make the best secret agents any government has ever seen.. why?is it their intellectual skills?.
their vast amount of knowledge?.
loyalty?.
You're so right you don't even know it.
[SYN], UADA - Unseen Apostate Directorate of Africa - For Great Justice!
i found this sight for anyone who is still brainwashed and going through the guilt and depression of leaving the jw's...please get help...try this deprogramming centre for jw's.
www.freeminds.org/psych/deprog.htm.
also i found a number from christian outreach for anyone who is a jw and is stuck trying to get out...call 630-627-9028.. okay...peace everyone... rags
I, too, find a deprogramming center for Dubs:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/active.asp?site=3
!!!
[SYN], UADA - Unseen Apostate Directorate of Africa - For Great Justice!
a few people have asked me why the death of the queens mother is such a big deal, so here goes:.
in 1937, our king was edward the 8th.
he was the eldest son of george the 5th, and, on georges death, he automatically became king.
I watched the Sky News special on her last night, and it was very interesting. I think the fact that she stayed at Buckingham Palace (and that it got bombed) when she could have high-tailed it for some obscure Scottish Castle is a sign of bravery, and it probably helped Britain to get through the War. It's a pity that they glossed over the Diana Assasination, barely even mentioning it, because I think that was an important part of her life.
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i found this out from my brother-in-law, an elder at bethel.. he says that the wtb&ts has hired outside printing compan(y|ies) to print their bound volumes only.. i do recall when i was up in ri, that a brother worked for a printing and binding company that the wtb&ts hired to print the greatest man covers.. also regarding dumping people at bethel -not true, he says.
however, they are not accepting any new people.
for individuals who want to stay they can.
Now the young ones will basically have ZERO goals, actually. The KM will have to encourage them, to, uh, "reach out for priveledges (SP???) in the Congregation!"
That will probably result in the loss of life as a million young Dubs all vie for the same Elder positions. Ouch.
What is there left for them to do? Pioneer? Damn, being a Dub youth is starting to suck more and more. (Or less and less, depending on how devout they are! )
[SYN], UADA - Unseen Apostate Directorate of Africa - For Great Justice!