Posts by liam

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HOW TO BE LOYAL TO JEHOVAH

by liam in

a post from another exjw site, shows how throughout the years, in a regular, systematic fashion, the watchtower has influence thoroughly; an ideological point of view, in the minds of it’s members by using bible scriptures and examples, to get the members to do the unthinkable, even if it clashes with modern ethics.

february 2016 watchtower, paragraph 3 of the article titled .

"learn from jehovah’s loyal servants".

liam

LongHairGal

“We must be ready to obey even if it doesn’t make sense....”. Shouldn’t a statement like this have made intelligent people wonder what’s going on? Like what are they going to be asked to do?

That's what's SCARY!

There are plenty of examples of Cults who have recruited some very intelligent people,(Scientists, Engineers, Doctors, etc., and have "Somehow" coerce these very intelligent people to commit suicide.

Here is an example;

And in 1997, a former music professor named Applewhite persuaded 38 people to commit suicide with him, with plastic bags and purple cloths over their heads and Nike sneakers on their feet, in an effort to reach a UFO hiding behind Comet Hale-Bopp. This UFO was to take them, via what they termed Heaven’s Gate, to an unspecified interplanetary reward.

Yet a large number of modern adults put Victory Nikes on their feet and purple blankets over their faces and killed themselves, in shifts, for God’s sake, to become a post-mortem away team. (That really was the term they used—they were actually wearing Star Trek-inspired Away Team patches on their unisex black uniforms).

And of course, they didn’t go anywhere. They just died.

If the Governing Body decided one day to tell all the Members to drink the wine laced with poison on Memorial Day, I'm sure a Substantial amount would DRINK THE POISON.

The human species has this tenancy to believe things that give them hope of living forever.

Among the Human species, are those that think things out and realize someone is trying to scam them to do the unthinkable.....you call those individuals Critical thinkers.

You were a critical thinker LongHairGal, which is why you got out of the Watchtower before they did you damage.

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Make America Great Again.......Maybe...........For all you on Social Security.

by liam in

so there's a bill called the social security fairness act that "might" help those on social security.

the bill is something trump said he would push for once he become president.of course there is some rinos and democrats who don't want the bill because they still want to fund wars that americans have no business getting involved.

all the president has to do is signed it "if" he makes it into office.. this could go in effect as soon as next year.

liam

401k or pensions, you earn that on your own, it has a yield of approx. 180% if you work from a reasonable age (so if you pay into it now for 40 years, you can live very well for the other 40-60 years).

That's pretty Good! A person can actually have a couple of million by the time they retire. But I've heard that 1 in 10 actually have a 401 pension. Mostly because of ignorance about finance.

Also, it seems like this change in Social Security is only going to affect those who worked some time for the Government and another part for the private Sector. It will not apply to your average Joe who only gets Social Security and never paid a into a private pension.

Those affected are people like Fireman, Teachers, Police, etc. who didn't pay Social Security but had a private pension. They are the ones that will get the raise from my understanding. Those who only paid into social security will not get a raise.

I may be wrong but that seems to be the consensus.

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Make America Great Again.......Maybe...........For all you on Social Security.

by liam in

so there's a bill called the social security fairness act that "might" help those on social security.

the bill is something trump said he would push for once he become president.of course there is some rinos and democrats who don't want the bill because they still want to fund wars that americans have no business getting involved.

all the president has to do is signed it "if" he makes it into office.. this could go in effect as soon as next year.

liam

Here is an example of lazy people using the system with your tax dollars

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OgIX8MaaAKc

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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

by Sea Breeze in

like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

liam

You can't feed kids a years-long steady diet of woke ideology,

All it takes is a month Sea Breeze, believe me. I have a friend who within a month, started spouting that crap at me.

Me and my friends brought him back to his senses.

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They are running out of people to do their stuff.

by liam in

this is the watchtower study article being studied today.

so it’s the current new light!.

what are the new qualifications to be an “elder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.

liam

This is the Watchtower Study Article being studied Today. So it’s the Current New Light!

This is from the Oct 2024 WT Study Article 41

They are continuing to entice the Young Men to Pioneer, (instead of going to a University) become Elders, and Circuit overseers. What are the NEW Qualifications to be an “Elder-aka older man...and Circuit Overseer?

Qualifications Needed………………...You need to be at least 20 years old!

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2024/Learning-From-Jesus-Final-40-Days-on-Earth/

EXAMPLE ONE - PIONEER

12 When Nortey was 16 years old, he began to study the Bible. Soon, though, his family opposed him. What helped him to remain firm? His Bible teacher had used Matthew chapter 10 to explain that true Christians will be persecuted. “So when the persecution started,” Nortey says, “I was convinced that I had found the truth.” His teacher also helped him to reason on Matthew 10:16 so that he could be both cautious and respectful when discussing religious matters at home.

After his baptism, Nortey wanted to pioneer, but his father expected him to go to university.

Rather than tell Nortey what to do, his teacher drew him out with questions and helped him to reason on Scriptural principles. The result? Nortey decided to enter full-time service.

Notice that the Watchtower does not tell young ones what to do. they just reason on scriptural principles. No court can ever blame the WT for forcing the young ones to pioneer. It was their religious choice.

EXAMPLE 2 – BECOME A CIRCUIT OVERSEER LIKE THE DISCIPLES OF JESUS

13 While on earth, Jesus perfectly cared for the work his Father had given him to do. (John 17:4) But Jesus did not have the attitude, ‘If you want something done right, you must do it yourself.’ During his three-and-a-half-year ministry, he trained others to do the work. Before returning to heaven,

Jesus entrusted his disciples—some of whom may have been in their 20’s—with the responsibility of caring for Jehovah’s precious sheep and taking the lead in the preaching and teaching work.

EXAMPLE 3 BECOME AN ELDER IN YOUR 20S

15 How can elders imitate Jesus? They must train and assist men, including those who may be relatively young, to qualify for greater responsibilities.

16 Consider how a brother named Patrick benefited from counsel. As a young person, he tended to speak harshly and to act unkindly, even toward sisters. A mature elder noticed Patrick’s weaknesses and gave him kind but straightforward counsel. “I am glad he did,” says Patrick. “I used to get discouraged when I saw other brothers receiving privileges of service that I wanted. But the elder’s counsel helped me to see the need to focus on humbly serving my brothers and sisters instead of on receiving some position or privilege in the congregation.”

As a result, Patrick was appointed as an elder when he was in his early 20’s.—Prov. 27:9.

Foot note; In some cases, qualified men in their mid-to-late 20’s may be appointed as circuit overseers. However, such men must first gain experience serving as elders.

Whoo! You can be an elder and a Circuit Overseer in your early 20s!

And you can even have a beard and a mustache to make you look older!

Example of what today's Elder/ Circuit overseer will look like.

20 year old boy, looking for accommodation in Stockholm | Roommates in ...

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Make America Great Again.......Maybe...........For all you on Social Security.

by liam in

so there's a bill called the social security fairness act that "might" help those on social security.

the bill is something trump said he would push for once he become president.of course there is some rinos and democrats who don't want the bill because they still want to fund wars that americans have no business getting involved.

all the president has to do is signed it "if" he makes it into office.. this could go in effect as soon as next year.

liam

LHG

You know Social Security is not bad actually. In many cases it's more than some pensions from the State or what a private firm provides.

For example, the maximum amount a person can make with Social Security is $58,476 a year, plus Medicare Advantage. Not bad for a person who is retired and has his house paid for. Plus someone like that more than likely has a nice amount in his Savings Accounts spread through different banks and stock.

https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/social-security/articles/what-is-the-maximum-possible-social-security-benefit

Those poor pioneers that believed with all their heart were scammed. They could have lived a fairly decent life if they hadn't been taken advantage of their ignorance. That's why I believe all religion is dangerous. It main purpose is to take advantage of the gullible and enrich itself.

I guess we were lucky. I for whatever reason didn't fall for the Watchtower's promise of paradise, and continue to work cause I enjoy it. And you also didn't fall for their fantasy promise.

We made it to the bank!

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Make America Great Again.......Maybe...........For all you on Social Security.

by liam in

so there's a bill called the social security fairness act that "might" help those on social security.

the bill is something trump said he would push for once he become president.of course there is some rinos and democrats who don't want the bill because they still want to fund wars that americans have no business getting involved.

all the president has to do is signed it "if" he makes it into office.. this could go in effect as soon as next year.

liam

LongHairGal

But, some people (not just Witnesses) mistakenly think they can get regular SS even if they never worked.

Yea............IN THEIR DREAMS!

Here is a brief list of things required to get SS, from their official sites

You may be eligible for Social Security
benefits by earning Social Security
credits when you work in a job and pay
Social Security taxes.
We base Social Security credits on the
amount of your earnings. We use your
earnings and work history to determine
your eligibility for retirement or disability
benefits or your family’s eligibility for
survivors benefits. We cannot pay
benefits if you don’t have enough credits.

https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10072.pdf

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Make America Great Again.......Maybe...........For all you on Social Security.

by liam in

so there's a bill called the social security fairness act that "might" help those on social security.

the bill is something trump said he would push for once he become president.of course there is some rinos and democrats who don't want the bill because they still want to fund wars that americans have no business getting involved.

all the president has to do is signed it "if" he makes it into office.. this could go in effect as soon as next year.

liam

LHG

On a side note, DOGE aka Department of Government Efficiency, is planning to crack down on people who abuse the system and get disability checks but are able to work. This would mean that the practice of getting disability from the Gov. and then pioneering won't work anymore because the new rules will specify that if a person is getting disability, that will mean the person will have to be in bed, disabled most of the time to qualify.

If someone is getting disability money and pioneering, and gets caught, they will haul his ass off to prison and he can pioneer there in prison.

In fact, Elon said he was planning on stopping all fund for the homeless. Either they go to a medical facility for help or go to prison, but no funds for them to by drugs.

They are going to crack down on the Lazy!

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Make America Great Again.......Maybe...........For all you on Social Security.

by liam in

so there's a bill called the social security fairness act that "might" help those on social security.

the bill is something trump said he would push for once he become president.of course there is some rinos and democrats who don't want the bill because they still want to fund wars that americans have no business getting involved.

all the president has to do is signed it "if" he makes it into office.. this could go in effect as soon as next year.

liam

Hi LongHairGal

It's true what you say, We're talking about people who worked the required amount to qualify for SS. If a person didn't get the credits they were supposed to in order to qualify for SS, they are cooked. No soup for them.

But if a person did get the credits and didn't put in much money into their fund, they will not get as much as a person who worked 'Normal' .....meaning they weren't the type of people that worked part time to pioneer.

A person who made 10k a year for life, will not get the same amount as a person who made 50k a year for life. So yes, big difference.

This is only if Trump makes it to the Presidency and signs the bill. So it's not written in stone Yet.

I'm sure the Governing Body will take the Credit somehow, just like they took the credit for the food that they distribute to their members during Covid, which was really coming from the Government and not from the GB.

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Make America Great Again.......Maybe...........For all you on Social Security.

by liam in

so there's a bill called the social security fairness act that "might" help those on social security.

the bill is something trump said he would push for once he become president.of course there is some rinos and democrats who don't want the bill because they still want to fund wars that americans have no business getting involved.

all the president has to do is signed it "if" he makes it into office.. this could go in effect as soon as next year.

liam

So there's a bill called the Social Security Fairness Act that "Might" help those on Social Security. The Bill is something Trump said he would push for once he become President.Of course there is some RINOS and Democrats who don't want the bill because they still want to fund wars that Americans have no business getting involved.

All the President has to do is signed it "If" he makes it into office.

This could go in effect as soon as next year.

This will be good News for the Governing Body, because now they can say Jehovah provided of the Pioneers who didn't work that much

We will have to wait to see how much and who will benefit, but it looks like a good thing.

It's what Trump wanted, MAGA instead of Make Ukraine Great Again.

We will have to wait and see, so don't go buying a sports car yet. But I'm happy for all you old folks and my parents who will be on Social Security soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVnTZ3dE__A