Posts by Tallyman

And this "Kelley" used a VERY naughty word... and I would repeat it,
but out of respect for Englassman, who might choke on his pint
iffing he read the 'F' word, I will refrain.

But, for this dude, I'm going to let you have it!

I just hope you don't wither under the Magnitude of my Response.

Here goes:

*

54

TALLYMAN ATTACKS FREEPEACE! THANKS!!!

by FreePeace in

jw
friends

tallyman has seen fit to make an unprovoked attack on me and my book, "the game rules for life.

what do i say in response?

"hey look honey, another attack on me from someone who doesn't have a clue about me...yawn.".

Tallyman

Fark,

Like Mammy in the "Li'l Abner" comic strip used to say:

"Ah has spoken!"

So, far as I'm concerned, it ends rite heah.

Rite heah!

Period

.

LOve, Tallyman

54

TALLYMAN ATTACKS FREEPEACE! THANKS!!!

by FreePeace in

jw
friends

tallyman has seen fit to make an unprovoked attack on me and my book, "the game rules for life.

what do i say in response?

"hey look honey, another attack on me from someone who doesn't have a clue about me...yawn.".

Tallyman

(well, I'll post it again, since I missed one li'l quote bracket... sure miss the 'edit' feature...)

VeniceIT cooed:

Tally I luv ya man and know you've gone through a lot, and actually I think you'd like the book if you took the time to read it.

Ven, I luv ya too, and you're a sweet kid, and I hate to think of you
getting sucked into a Flaky New Age Motivational Empowerment Cult.

Well say what you want Tally, but it's a GREAT BOOK. Personally I've benefited from Dougs training and willingness to help people and share.

This is what I don't get, Ven.
You say you're a Christian. We talked about it in Yahoo Chat months ago.
I'm a Christian, too.

This guy Doug Kelley, TRASHES the Bible and the God of the Bible.
How do you reconcile that?
In one of his diatribes on his "Help" for x-jWs site, he expounds:

This is just one of many examples in which the "God' of the Hebrew scriptures is nothing but a vile and wicked myth. It is blasphemous to portend that the Almighty, who has shown so much love and orderliness in creation, should ever act in such a devilish, animalistic and sub-human sort of way. It is far beneath the True God to deal with his children in such an unloving and gruesome manner.

He goes on and on:

Is the Bible Really the Word of God? Is the Bible Authentic? Was it Really Inspired? You Never Know Where the Truth Lies...

and the one that got me:

You've Learned the WTS's side, Why Not Consider the Other Side?

IOW, Dr.Feelgood is like many of the x-Dubs, who once they exit the Watchtowercult, they throw away all faith in God or the Bible. Kelley says that there's the WTS's side, and then the "Other" side. You're either a Bible-Thumper or a Bible-Slammer.
No middle ground. Black and White. Sounds just like the Watchtowercult.

Master Kelley sez:

Why We Do Not Need a Redeemer

and even questions the existence of Jesus Christ:

The Myth of the Historical Jesus

C'mon Ven! Do you go for that schtuff??

"Throw away the Bible and the God of the Bible and the Saviour of the Bible,
and BUY MY BOOK for all you need to know about The Game Rules of Life".
(to boil down what this dude is preaching)

And Dr. Kelley says in his Life Story that he prayed to jehovah-Of-The-Watchtower, and did not get an answer, so he said PHOOEY! on all things "Faith-In-God-Of-The-Bible related.

IOW, he was BURNED by the Kounterfeit god that the Watchtowerkult pukes,
so "To Hell" with it all...

And then he seethes about the "Atrocities of the Bible"...
which seems to be a favorite subject of many around these parts.

Sometimes I do have a hard time reconciling the Heavenly Father to whom
Jesus prayed - and with the God of the Old Testament... but then again,
I don't know all the facts, and I'm not going to rely on my faulty human
reasoning to make judgments about God's "behavior"-
mainly because I don't know the whole story and all the facts,
and hey, I'm willing to give God "The Presumption of Innocence".

I know, personally, the HIGH VALUE of that principle.
Let's be patience and see what is revealed in due time, when all the facts
come out, and then see if we view these cases recorded in the Bible as
"Atrocities".

Dr.Doug Kelley has already made that judgment, and you don't think all
these new-found "ideas" have NOT warped his mind? ... and that that
anti-God, anti-Bible attitude doesn't come across in his books?

Atrocities, atrocities, ... just look at all the superfine pacifists
who are now crying about the United States committing atrocities
in this New War on Terrorism, of stray bombs hitting civilians,
or all the things that can and do happen in wartime...
and yet, this war is being fought in Self-Defense of this Nation,
because these Terrorists Jokers are intent on KILLING us.

America has even gone on the offensive and given the green light
for assassinations and to take 'pre-emptive strikes' on the enemy,
who is looking to preside over the Genocide (of us!)

And Israel gets criticized for committing atrocities now,
and as Dr.Kelley loudly proclaims, THOUSANDS of years ago.
But, was THEIR national existence just as much at stake then, as now?
Like ours?
The Arabs want to Completely Destroy Israel and drive her into the sea.
Israel doesn't even appear on their maps of the world.
The Arabs want the Genocide of Israel.

Israel is fighting today for national security and Israel fought her enemies
thousands of years ago, for her national security... but that comes across
as "Atrocities", according to Dr.Feelgood.

I remember back in the early 1980s when Israel launched a Pre-Emptive Strike
against Saddam Hussein's Iraq, and a Nuclear Reactor being built.
Israel warned them, to cease and desist, or else.
The Iraquis did not, and they had their Nuke Reactor destroyed by Israel.
And many cried "Atrocity".

Just think if Israel did not take that action, and the Nuclear Reactor
was built and went online, and fissionable material was being produced...
do you think Dictator Hussein would hesitate in the slightest to take
that stuff to build a Fission Nuke Bomb and use it,
or SELL IT to Al-Quaeda, to use against the United States?

And then, Dr. Feelgood, demonstrating his Sheer Hypocrisy, at the very top
of his Business Website, www.empowerthespirit.com, appears the New Logo:

*

I guess patriotism and to try to show customers you are patriotic
is good for business, huh?

Well, my oh my, that American Flag Logo/Symbol stands for the Terrorists'
Strike on the United States on September 11, and to remember all the
police and firemen and rescue workers and thousands of innocents
who died in a Huge Atrocity committed by the ENEMIES of
"The Great Satan" - the U.S. and "The Little Satan" - Israel.

And the symbol stands for freedom and FIGHTING for freedom
(the freedom for D.Kelley to practice his New Age Power Cult and make $$$)
and going to WAR for freedom and having to KILL people for freedom,
and be charged by IDIOTS for committing ATROCITIES during wartime, for freedom...
yet, Dr.Doug bemoans the "Atrocities of the Bible".

Damn Hypocrite!

Any one that attacks someone who's trying to help people should stop and think about what they're doing or contributing.

Well, which is it Ven? Look again at the title of this thread.
Dr.Feelgood "THANKS" me for what I said about his New Age Shakedown Cult.
Good for business. "Controversy is good", he said...
and then he accuses me of committing the "most vile attack on him, ever".
He didn't sound like he was kidding when he thanked me...
What's the deal with this dude?

"help people"? Dr.Doug is out to help hisself - this off his website(S):

Coach, Professional, Master, Board Certified Hypnotist, M.HT & CSL
[What the hey is a 'CSL'??]
My Guarantee - I guarantee positive results

CORRECT ALL HABIT PROBLEMS
S.T.O.P. Smoking Program Fee: $299.00 which includes five personal hypnosis sessions and more. Click Here for complete info.
[how about just praying FREE to God or even a Higher Power for will power
and break the habit yourself, and keep the 3 Hundred Dollar Bills-
even doctors and scientists attest to the effectiveness of prayer]
Spring Specials!
These Spring Special prices are in effect until May 1, 2002!
• Save an additional $25 on 4 visits when you prepay! Now only $250!
• Save $25 on the S.T.O.P. Smoking program! Now only $274!
• Save $15 on single sessions! Now only $60!
[And Dr.Feelgood accepts VISA, Mastercard and all major credit cards]

Brackets, mine.

I don't understand why you accuse him on one hand of 'slapping himself on the back' and then ridicule him for not being famous or what ever, I'm confused.

Ven, you must not have read when I said, he WAS famous, as evidenced by all
the accolades and glowing testimonials...
just not AS famous as the Heavy-Hitter Mo' Speakers who Command the GRAND fees.

I think you just kind of over reacted a bit.

If you take anything away from this, please don't think that.
I reacted in way I usually do when my 'Bullshit Detector' goes off...

Hey, how come no one criticizes me when I "attack" the Watchtowercult,
'cause they are supposed to out there "helping" people for "free"...?
Wait.
I take that back.
They do.

Anywho, I'm kind of worried about you Ven, getting sucked into another Kult,
if you are "buying" into that HOoey that Dr.Feelgood is slinging.

Just mah 2 centavos.

LOve, Tallyman

54

TALLYMAN ATTACKS FREEPEACE! THANKS!!!

by FreePeace in

jw
friends

tallyman has seen fit to make an unprovoked attack on me and my book, "the game rules for life.

what do i say in response?

"hey look honey, another attack on me from someone who doesn't have a clue about me...yawn.".

Tallyman

joelbear growled:

Tally,
Has anybody wasted any of their time loving you?

Ouch!
Now, joelBear, that was an especially meanie thing for you to say
to moi, what with you being the cute cuddly bear everyone
knows you to be.

Tally,
LOL. Won't be much chance of you spending any of your time trying to make anyone feel good, for free or for a price.

Well, let's just say for the sake of your comments,
that no one has EvEr WaStEd their time loving me,
or that I have NeVeR SpEnT any of my time trying to make someone feel good.

Why don't YOU try to make me feel good, by bringing me some of that "love" you've been re-learning back at the Kingdom Hall, since you joined back up with the Watchtowercult?

Show me some of that Watchtowerlove, that I know the Fanatix must have showered you with when you returned to the cult fold, like the prodigal son.

Will you?

How come you won't even address my questions as to how things are going since you shocked the dickens out of everyone here by announcing that you were headed back to 'WatchtowerLand' ?

You talked about "bullets" the other day...
why don't you share one of those Watchtowercult Love BOMBS with me?
Go ahead, detonate one of those bombs rite on mah head, rite now!

Oh, yeah, how are the brothers and sisters dealing with your umm, certain proclivities and orientations? Have you been "rehabilitated"?

LOve, Tallyman

54

TALLYMAN ATTACKS FREEPEACE! THANKS!!!

by FreePeace in

jw
friends

tallyman has seen fit to make an unprovoked attack on me and my book, "the game rules for life.

what do i say in response?

"hey look honey, another attack on me from someone who doesn't have a clue about me...yawn.".

Tallyman

VeniceIT cooed:

Tally I luv ya man and know you've gone through a lot, and actually I think you'd like the book if you took the time to read it.

Ven, I luv ya too, and you're a sweet kid, and I hate to think of you
getting sucked into a Flaky New Age Motivational Empowerment Cult.

Well say what you want Tally, but it's a GREAT BOOK. Personally I've benefited from Dougs training and willingness to help people and share.[/quote}
This is what I don't get, Ven.
You say you're a Christian. We talked about it in Yahoo Chat months ago.
I'm a Christian, too.
This guy Doug Kelley, TRASHES the Bible and the God of the Bible.
How do you reconcile that?
In one of his diatribes on his "Help" for x-jWs site, he expounds:

This is just one of many examples in which the "God' of the Hebrew scriptures is nothing but a vile and wicked myth. It is blasphemous to portend that the Almighty, who has shown so much love and orderliness in creation, should ever act in such a devilish, animalistic and sub-human sort of way. It is far beneath the True God to deal with his children in such an unloving and gruesome manner.
He goes on and on:
Is the Bible Really the Word of God? Is the Bible Authentic? Was it Really Inspired? You Never Know Where the Truth Lies...
and the one that got me:
You've Learned the WTS's side, Why Not Consider the Other Side?

IOW, Dr.Feelgood is like many of the x-Dubs, who once they exit the Watchtowercult, they throw away all faith in God or the Bible. Kelley says that there's the WTS's side, and then the "Other" side. You're either a Bible-Thumper or a Bible-Slammer.
No middle ground. Black and White. Sounds just like the Watchtowercult.
Master Kelley sez:
Why We Do Not Need a Redeemer
and even questions the existence of Jesus Christ:
The Myth of the Historical Jesus
C'mon Ven! Do you go for that schtuff??
"Throw away the Bible and the God of the Bible and the Saviour of the Bible,
and BUY MY BOOK for all you need to know about The Game Rules of Life".
(to boil down what this dude is preaching)
And Dr. Kelley says in his Life Story that he prayed to jehovah-Of-The-Watchtower, and did not get an answer, so he said PHOOEY! on all things "Faith-In-God-Of-The-Bible related.
IOW, he was BURNED by the Kounterfeit god that the Watchtowerkult pukes,
so "To Hell" with it all...
And then he seethes about the "Atrocities of the Bible"...
which seems to be a favorite subject of many around these parts.
Sometimes I do have a hard time reconciling the Heavenly Father to whom
Jesus prayed - and with the God of the Old Testament... but then again,
I don't know all the facts, and I'm not going to rely on my faulty human
reasoning to make judgments about God's "behavior"-
mainly because I don't know the whole story and all the facts,
and hey, I'm willing to give God "The Presumption of Innocence".
I know, personally, the HIGH VALUE of that principle.
Let's be patience and see what is revealed in due time, when all the facts
come out, and then see if we view these cases recorded in the Bible as
"Atrocities".
Dr.Doug Kelley has already made that judgment, and you don't think all
these new-found "ideas" have NOT warped his mind? ... and that that
anti-God, anti-Bible attitude doesn't come across in his books?
Atrocities, atrocities, ... just look at all the superfine pacifists
who are now crying about the United States committing atrocities
in this New War on Terrorism, of stray bombs hitting civilians,
or all the things that can and do happen in wartime...
and yet, this war is being fought in Self-Defense of this Nation,
because these Terrorists Jokers are intent on KILLING us.
America has even gone on the offensive and given the green light
for assassinations and to take 'pre-emptive strikes' on the enemy,
who is looking to preside over the Genocide (of us!)
And Israel gets criticized for committing atrocities now,
and as Dr.Kelley loudly proclaims, THOUSANDS of years ago.
But, was THEIR national existence just as much at stake then, as now?
Like ours?
The Arabs want to Completely Destroy Israel and drive her into the sea.
Israel doesn't even appear on their maps of the world.
The Arabs want the Genocide of Israel.
Israel is fighting today for national security and Israel fought her enemies
thousands of years ago, for her national security... but that comes across
as "Atrocities", according to Dr.Feelgood.
I remember back in the early 1980s when Israel launched a Pre-Emptive Strike
against Saddam Hussein's Iraq, and a Nuclear Reactor being built.
Israel warned them, to cease and desist, or else.
The Iraquis did not, and they had their Nuke Reactor destroyed by Israel.
And many cried "Atrocity".
Just think if Israel did not take that action, and the Nuclear Reactor
was built and went online, and fissionable material was being produced...
do you think Dictator Hussein would hesitate in the slightest to take
that stuff to build a Fission Nuke Bomb and use it,
or SELL IT to Al-Quaeda, to use against the United States?
And then, Dr. Feelgood, demonstrating his Sheer Hypocrisy, at the very top
of his Business Website, www.empowerthespirit.com, appears the New Logo:
*
I guess patriotism and to try to show customers you are patriotic
is good for business, huh?

Well, my oh my, that American Flag Logo/Symbol stands for the Terrorists'
Strike on the United States on September 11, and to remember all the
police and firemen and rescue workers and thousands of innocents
who died in a Huge Atrocity committed by the ENEMIES of
"The Great Satan" - the U.S. and "The Little Satan" - Israel.
And the symbol stands for freedom and FIGHTING for freedom
(the freedom for D.Kelley to practice his New Age Power Cult and make $$$)
and going to WAR for freedom and having to KILL people for freedom,
and be charged by IDIOTS for committing ATROCITIES during wartime, for freedom...
yet, Dr.Doug bemoans the "Atrocities of the Bible".
Damn Hypocrite!
Any one that attacks someone who's trying to help people should stop and think about what they're doing or contributing.

Well, which is it Ven? Look again at the title of this thread.
Dr.Feelgood "THANKS" me for what I said about his New Age Shakedown Cult.
Good for business. "Controversy is good", he said...
and then he accuses me of committing the "most vile attack on him, ever".
He didn't sound like he was kidding when he thanked me...
What's the deal with this dude?
"help people"? Dr.Doug is out to help hisself - this off his website(S):
Coach, Professional, Master, Board Certified Hypnotist, M.HT & CSL
[What the hey is a 'CSL'??]
My Guarantee - I guarantee positive results

CORRECT ALL HABIT PROBLEMS
S.T.O.P. Smoking Program Fee: $299.00 which includes five personal hypnosis sessions and more. Click Here for complete info.
[how about just praying FREE to God or even a Higher Power for will power
and break the habit yourself, and keep the 3 Hundred Dollar Bills-
even doctors and scientists attest to the effectiveness of prayer]
Spring Specials!
These Spring Special prices are in effect until May 1, 2002!
• Save an additional $25 on 4 visits when you prepay! Now only $250!
• Save $25 on the S.T.O.P. Smoking program! Now only $274!
• Save $15 on single sessions! Now only $60!
[And Dr.Feelgood accepts VISA, Mastercard and all major credit cards]
Brackets, mine.
I don't understand why you accuse him on one hand of 'slapping himself on the back' and then ridicule him for not being famous or what ever, I'm confused.

Ven, you must not have read when I said, he WAS famous, as evidenced by all
the accolades and glowing testimonials...
just not AS famous as the Heavy-Hitter Mo' Speakers who Command the GRAND fees.
[quote]I think you just kind of over reacted a bit.

If you take anything away from this, please don't think that.
I reacted in way I usually do when my 'Bullshit Detector' goes off...

Hey, how come no one criticizes me when I "attack" the Watchtowercult,
'cause they are supposed to out there "helping" people for "free"...?
Wait.
I take that back.
They do.

Anywho, I'm kind of worried about you Ven, getting sucked into another Kult,
if you are "buying" into that HOoey that Dr.Feelgood is slinging.

Just mah 2 centavos.

LOve, Tallyman

54

TALLYMAN ATTACKS FREEPEACE! THANKS!!!

by FreePeace in

jw
friends

tallyman has seen fit to make an unprovoked attack on me and my book, "the game rules for life.

what do i say in response?

"hey look honey, another attack on me from someone who doesn't have a clue about me...yawn.".

Tallyman

I have never been so vilely criticized by anyone in the way the Tallyman did.

Dr.Feelgood,

That is about as 'off the wall' as it comes.

My first sentence to you, when YOU started this thread, was to say:
"I don't know you, dude."

It simply happened because Tracy has a link to my website in her profile. There is nothing wrong with this, nor is it prohibited by policy (to my knowledge).

Yeah. Now, that's more like it. It all started when Schtinky chimed into a Scheeker thread, about, of all things - "politeness"... heeee!
a thread Scheeker started after he "attacked" my speculation with his pissant trivializing obsessive-compulsive picking apart my general comments on a speculative Time magazine article.

And I called him a technical asshole, which he'd proved himself to be.

Well, Schtinky talks something about what "No Klass" is, and I give her a prime example of what "No Klass" is - shilling a Business website in a forum like this.

Didn't know she was YOUR wife. Didn't know who Doug Kelley was.
She was hawking a book by a Doug Kelley and an empowerment kult,
when I made those comments and then YOU made it all about YOU
and an ATTACK by me on YOU.

So it didn't take me long, after a little more reading to figger out you and Schtinky were a Hubby and Wifey Kon Team.

You say there was "nothing wrong with" Schtinky giving a link to the website she was shilling and that it wasn't against policy.
I don't know.
I just know that it is "Low Klass, No Klass" to do it, and said so.

Then YOU, who I still didn't know, start this thread and pretend to be all bent out of shape... I say "pretend", because I guess you did it to promote yourself and your empowerment business,
because you gave me "THANKS" and said it was all helpful to you.

So, which is it I supposedly did to you?

ATTACK YOU, or HELP YOU?

To my best recall, I don’t believe that I have ever had an argument with Tallyman, and certainly not on the thread he was on. So for him to single me out was unprovoked BY ME.

D'Oh!
that's rite. see above. I've never communicated with you or know you.

You "singled yourself" out, dude.
And it was ALL for SELF-PROMOTION.
And it is transparent as a new sheet of Pella Glass.

To think that I provoked him simply because I wrote a book, is not reasonable. He was simply lashing out at Tracy. But Tracy is not me, and I am not Tracy. We are separate individuals. Therefore, it was wrong of Tallyman to attack me because he had a disagreement with Tracy.

D'Oh! again.
And 'see above' again.

I didn't know you to start with FreePee, and I know you only a little better now, and alls I can say is: "Whadda Dope!"

- - -

This (above) was part of response you gave to Kent.
I've known Kent for many years and he and I do NOT agree on a LOT
of things, but we've worked together in the KultBusting Department,
but I've never known Kent to lie, and I've always known him to keep
his Bullshit Filter scrupulously clean.

He sniffed you out, too.

LOve, Tallyman

101

What happened to politeness?

by Seeker in

jw
friends

twice in the past week, from two different posters, i have been called an "asshole.

" in both cases, the person made an assumption about me based on something that was said in a thread.

in both cases, i responded by saying i disagreed with their characterization and explained why.

Tallyman

TALLYWHACKER TALLYWHACKER

He's our man! If he can't whack it, no one can!
Yeahhhhhhh!

Schtinky! How Cute. You musta been a Cheerleader in High School.
Rite?

But you're STILL Hollering.
Are you from the Hills of West Virginny?
You must be one of dem thar 'Ridgerunners'.
They like to Holler.
And some of them live in the Holler.

You've stayed in practice over the years, I must say.

You're a Good Kheerleader for FreePee's New Age Empowerment Kult.

You still gots that (empowerthe)Team (Spirit).

Except now, it's 'www'.

FreePschthinks4me

LOve, Tallyman

101

What happened to politeness?

by Seeker in

jw
friends

twice in the past week, from two different posters, i have been called an "asshole.

" in both cases, the person made an assumption about me based on something that was said in a thread.

in both cases, i responded by saying i disagreed with their characterization and explained why.

Tallyman

Tallyman, you're a bore.
Dedalus

Hey, aren't you that Greek idiot who thought he could fly and slapped together a jackleg construction of chicken feathers and wax, strapped on your "wings" and flew too near to the Sun, and got BURNED?

You the one?

And did you misspell 'bore' and meant "boar", instead?

Noooo, please don't get me mixed up with a Big Hairy Animal,
whether boar or Bear!

or,
did you mean 'bore' like in my ability to drill straight into the heart of a matter and uncover what lies beneath, like say for instance, expose a New Scam, like say a Motivational-Suckcess-In-Life-Get-Rich-Quick-Scheme, to target and prey on vulnerable people who just got scammed in another Kult?

Guilty as charged.

LOve, Tallyman

5

Tallyman's Feel Good Message for March 7

by DrFeelGood in

jw
friends

hi tom!.

it is i, dr. feel good, and i am here with a special empowerment message for you!

i bet you can hardly wait!.

Tallyman

Dr.Feelgood exclaimed:

Hi Tom!
It is I, Dr. Feel Good, and I am here with a special empowerment message for you! I bet you can hardly wait!
And the best part is it's FREE! Not only that, it is unconditionally guaranteed! If ever this message fails you, you can return it for a prompt refund! (Am I great or what?)
Feel Good Message for March 7, 2002:
"It is far more impressive when others discover your good qualities without your help."

Hoooooo! THAT is rich!

Oh, oh, so WHY is it YOU "help" others "discover" your "good qualities" by plastering your "AWARDS", "Accolades", "Blue Ribbons", "Glowing Testimonials" on your website
for the viewers to see how "impressive"
you are?

DAMN! How I DOO detest a Braggart! - a loud arrogant boaster!

Yep. yep. A SURE sign of InSecurity.

HE'S THE ONE THEY CALL DR.FEELGOOD
HE'S THEONE THAT MAKES YA FEEL ALRIGHT
HE'S THE ONE THEY CALL DR.FEELGOOD
HE'S GONNA BE YOUR FRANKENSTEIN

Yeah, those Kults make you Feel Good in the beginning,
but in the End, they turn out to be Frankenstein Monsters.

Kindly Shove Your "Feel Good Messages" up your Kult Keister!

LOve, Tallyman