getting sucked into a Flaky New Age Motivational Empowerment Cult.
Well say what you want Tally, but it's a GREAT BOOK. Personally I've benefited from Dougs training and willingness to help people and share.[/quote}This is what I don't get, Ven.
You say you're a Christian. We talked about it in Yahoo Chat months ago.
I'm a Christian, too.
This guy Doug Kelley, TRASHES the Bible and the God of the Bible.
How do you reconcile that?
In one of his diatribes on his "Help" for x-jWs site, he expounds:
This is just one of many examples in which the "God' of the Hebrew scriptures is nothing but a vile and wicked myth. It is blasphemous to portend that the Almighty, who has shown so much love and orderliness in creation, should ever act in such a devilish, animalistic and sub-human sort of way. It is far beneath the True God to deal with his children in such an unloving and gruesome manner.
He goes on and on:
Is the Bible Really the Word of God? Is the Bible Authentic? Was it Really Inspired? You Never Know Where the Truth Lies...
and the one that got me:You've Learned the WTS's side, Why Not Consider the Other Side?
IOW, Dr.Feelgood is like many of the x-Dubs, who once they exit the Watchtowercult, they throw away all faith in God or the Bible. Kelley says that there's the WTS's side, and then the "Other" side. You're either a Bible-Thumper or a Bible-Slammer.
No middle ground. Black and White. Sounds just like the Watchtowercult.Master Kelley sez:
Why We Do Not Need a Redeemer
and even questions the existence of Jesus Christ:
The Myth of the Historical Jesus
C'mon Ven! Do you go for that schtuff??"Throw away the Bible and the God of the Bible and the Saviour of the Bible,
and BUY MY BOOK for all you need to know about The Game Rules of Life".
(to boil down what this dude is preaching)
And Dr. Kelley says in his Life Story that he prayed to jehovah-Of-The-Watchtower, and did not get an answer, so he said PHOOEY! on all things "Faith-In-God-Of-The-Bible related.
IOW, he was BURNED by the Kounterfeit god that the Watchtowerkult pukes,
so "To Hell" with it all...
And then he seethes about the "Atrocities of the Bible"...
which seems to be a favorite subject of many around these parts.
Sometimes I do have a hard time reconciling the Heavenly Father to whom
Jesus prayed - and with the God of the Old Testament... but then again,
I don't know all the facts, and I'm not going to rely on my faulty human
reasoning to make judgments about God's "behavior"-
mainly because I don't know the whole story and all the facts,
and hey, I'm willing to give God "The Presumption of Innocence".
I know, personally, the HIGH VALUE of that principle.
Let's be patience and see what is revealed in due time, when all the facts
come out, and then see if we view these cases recorded in the Bible as
"Atrocities".
Dr.Doug Kelley has already made that judgment, and you don't think all
these new-found "ideas" have NOT warped his mind? ... and that that
anti-God, anti-Bible attitude doesn't come across in his books?
Atrocities, atrocities, ... just look at all the superfine pacifists
who are now crying about the United States committing atrocities
in this New War on Terrorism, of stray bombs hitting civilians,
or all the things that can and do happen in wartime...
and yet, this war is being fought in Self-Defense of this Nation,
because these Terrorists Jokers are intent on KILLING us.
America has even gone on the offensive and given the green light
for assassinations and to take 'pre-emptive strikes' on the enemy,
who is looking to preside over the Genocide (of us!)
And Israel gets criticized for committing atrocities now,
and as Dr.Kelley loudly proclaims, THOUSANDS of years ago.
But, was THEIR national existence just as much at stake then, as now?
Like ours?
The Arabs want to Completely Destroy Israel and drive her into the sea.
Israel doesn't even appear on their maps of the world.
The Arabs want the Genocide of Israel.
Israel is fighting today for national security and Israel fought her enemies
thousands of years ago, for her national security... but that comes across
as "Atrocities", according to Dr.Feelgood.
I remember back in the early 1980s when Israel launched a Pre-Emptive Strike
against Saddam Hussein's Iraq, and a Nuclear Reactor being built.
Israel warned them, to cease and desist, or else.
The Iraquis did not, and they had their Nuke Reactor destroyed by Israel.
And many cried "Atrocity".
Just think if Israel did not take that action, and the Nuclear Reactor
was built and went online, and fissionable material was being produced...
do you think Dictator Hussein would hesitate in the slightest to take
that stuff to build a Fission Nuke Bomb and use it,
or SELL IT to Al-Quaeda, to use against the United States?
And then, Dr. Feelgood, demonstrating his Sheer Hypocrisy, at the very top
of his Business Website, www.empowerthespirit.com, appears the New Logo:
*
I guess patriotism and to try to show customers you are patriotic
is good for business, huh?
Well, my oh my, that American Flag Logo/Symbol stands for the Terrorists'
Strike on the United States on September 11, and to remember all the
police and firemen and rescue workers and thousands of innocents
who died in a Huge Atrocity committed by the ENEMIES of
"The Great Satan" - the U.S. and "The Little Satan" - Israel.
And the symbol stands for freedom and FIGHTING for freedom
(the freedom for D.Kelley to practice his New Age Power Cult and make $$$)
and going to WAR for freedom and having to KILL people for freedom,
and be charged by IDIOTS for committing ATROCITIES during wartime, for freedom...
yet, Dr.Doug bemoans the "Atrocities of the Bible".
Damn Hypocrite!
Any one that attacks someone who's trying to help people should stop and think about what they're doing or contributing.
Well, which is it Ven? Look again at the title of this thread.
Dr.Feelgood "THANKS" me for what I said about his New Age Shakedown Cult.
Good for business. "Controversy is good", he said...
and then he accuses me of committing the "most vile attack on him, ever".
He didn't sound like he was kidding when he thanked me...
What's the deal with this dude?"help people"? Dr.Doug is out to help hisself - this off his website(S):
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[how about just praying FREE to God or even a Higher Power for will power
and break the habit yourself, and keep the 3 Hundred Dollar Bills-
even doctors and scientists attest to the effectiveness of prayer]
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Brackets, mine.I don't understand why you accuse him on one hand of 'slapping himself on the back' and then ridicule him for not being famous or what ever, I'm confused.
Ven, you must not have read when I said, he WAS famous, as evidenced by all
the accolades and glowing testimonials...
just not AS famous as the Heavy-Hitter Mo' Speakers who Command the GRAND fees.[quote]I think you just kind of over reacted a bit.
If you take anything away from this, please don't think that.
I reacted in way I usually do when my 'Bullshit Detector' goes off...
Just mah 2 centavos.