Lets see how long they will last. I remember a young man, before he became a JW, he was a drug dealer. One day a couple of JW's called on him. He loved what he heard. And very quickly got baptised. As soon as they allowed him to he even pioneered. He went to all the meeting, assemblies, ect... He even met 4 times a day every day, with execption of meeting time. Now you must remember that his congeration is in a Kansas City. So they do go out alot anyhow. Then one day he just disapperared. Later I asked what had happen to him (I was not from his congeration, just visited every so often.) In short, the answer they gave me was that he got burned out. I've seen it quite often when I was a JW.
Tammie
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Another family lost (I'm feeling sick)
by Andee injust thought i would take a look over at wol.
then, i found this.. of course, all the responses were what fantastic news this was.. .
hdhslh .
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Tammie
You guys are being nnnnnaaaaaaaasssssssssttttttyyyyyyyyyy. But funny. lol
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my daughter's boyfriend is JW!!!!!
by concerned mama inmy 9th grade daughter has an "in school" boyfriend who is jw.
"in school" because she is not allowed to date yet, only go out in groups, and he, of course, is not supposed to be attached to any girl, especially one who is not jw.
he is actually a very nice boy, but he is so confused.
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Tammie
Yes, low key, is the way to go. That young JW boy, sounds just like my husband, when he was his age. My husband was never intrested in the JW teachings. He did get baptised, only because he was forced to. But he did not show him self to be a JW, it was never in his heart. He got into sports, and dated non-JW's. In fact there was this one girl, that he dated for a very long time. It was an off and on thing. They did end up getting ingaged, about the time they was in the 12 grade. But ended up breaking it off. I really don't know all the details other than that. The reason why I say low key, is this way you can still talk to both your child and her boy friend. If you are wondering what position my husband is in now. Well he is dissocated from the JW's and he really hates them, and is very angry. Right now your daughter's boyfriend does not have a choice with his religious situation. But one day he will. How, well that is up to him. But I would not worry, too much, because of their ages.
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A story
by Tammie ini am not trying to push my religious ideas on any person in here.
some of you belive in the rapture, and others don't.
this is just a story, some will say yes it will happen this way, and others will say this is just a fictious story.
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Tammie
I am not trying to push my religious ideas on any person in here. Some of you belive in the rapture, and others don't. This is just a story, some will say yes it will happen this way, and others will say this is just a fictious story. I don't mean to offen any former JW's. But what do you think of this story. The names are fictional.
There was a young couple who was raised all their lives as Jehovah's Witnesses. They was at least third genteration JW's on both sides. Their family members are very much in to the religion. They always said that the Watchtower was the true religion, and every thing else was on the devil's side. When Armageddon rolls around, every one not on the Watchtower's side was going to die. And Armageddon is right around the corner, has been that way for over a 100 years. But Ruth and Dan, the young couple, they got to thinking about what the JW's are always preaching. So they started to do their own recearch and bible study. Not on what the JW's always taught, but with questions, their own. One thing led to another, and Ruth and Dan, both decided that the Watchtower was not in aproval of God. They learned of so many things, that other former JW's learned. They talk to each other, and decided that they could no longer be part of an orgization that did not have God's blessing. Well it ended up that they dissocated at the same time. That was when the fan hit the ceiling. Their JW relatives got very angery at Ruth and Dan leaving. They was told the most hateful things that could be said. These was just some of things that was said to them:
You are going to be very miserable.
Your marrage will fall apart.
I am no longer your parent, you are no longer my child.
I will shun you, until you come back to Jehovah's orgization.
You are dead to me, because you will die at Armageddon.
Even some of the JW relatives even cussed at the young couple. But that did not deter them. Yes they was very sad that their relatives now turned their back on them. But they were not detered. They found other people who was going through what was going through. With this group of former JW's they was able to heal from the pains that was caused. Every one was serving God the way they knew how, and that was in many different branches of religion. With Ruth and Dan, they decided that it would be best for them to stay in the Christian religion. They ended up getting saved, and baptised in a church. After that point in their lives things kept getting better. Their marrage got stronger, and they got happer. Their children was very happy living this new life. All through this they never gave up contact with all their friends who was former JW's. They even gained new ones through the years. Then one day they just dissappeared. Many people dissappeared with out a trace. They was raptured up to heaven. Things was really crazy. You could just picture the mess things was in.Now back to the JW relatives. They was really angry and hurt when Ruth and Dan turned their backs on their religion. But they stuck to their guns. They knew with out a doubt that Armageddon was comming, and they did not want to get caught on the wrong side. So they did as they was told by the G.B. They shunned the young couple. They knew that Ruth and Dan would die, now. So they went on with their lives as normal. Meetings, FS, Assemblies, ect. They was just waiting for the day Jehovah would turn his anger on all those worldly people, and those who turned their back on his orgization. Every so often Ruth and Dan would try to make contact with their relatives, and to warn them that they was on the wrong tract. But they never bother to open any letters, phone calls- they hung up on them.
It was time to get up and get ready for field service. The JW relatives did this every day, on Saturday morning. They felt it was very important to warn people that God would some day kill every one that was not a JW. They never used those words, but that was what they thought in their minds. They all got in their cars and proceeded to head to the kingdom hall. But before they got there, they came across a big accident. So they had to stop, and check out what was going on. They noticed that there was people that was missing. They saw clothes, and personal belongings on the ground It was bad. It was like that every where. The national guard ended up comming out. They told every one who was still there, that they needed to go home. Till they could straighten out this mess. The JW family went home, turned on the TV, and made some phone to other in their religion. The youngest member of the family yelled for everyone to come into the living room. It was news on all the local stations. This problem was not just in their town, but all over the world. For some odd reason, the mother decieded to check on Ruth. She did not know why. It was the mother's instent that moved her. She drove over to Ruth's home. A strange feeling was over comming her. She knocked on the door. The door was not latched, so she walked in. Before this day, which Ruth knew would happen. She was hoping to reach out to her relatives. So she left a letter behind for this day. Her mom read it and this was what it said:
To all my relatives who are Jehovah's Witnesses,
If you are reading this letter, then Dan, the children, and my-self have disappeared without a trace. And so have a lot of other people disappeared too. If I figured this all out, then this is probabley what you have just witnessed. You, more and likely went out to take care of your daily duties, being it your congeration meetings, field service, work, or what ever. But on the way, you noticed something a bit strange. There are cars on the road-crashed, and no drivers. Clothing on the ground, but no people. But yet there are still some who are walking around. You classify them either "worldy", or your fellow Jehovah's Witnesses. From this point onward, I will just use the abbreviation JW.
I remember how you use to scoff at the little old lady next door, because of her belief in the rapture. You would say how she is just in the grave, because she was not a JW. But mom, she is in heaven and so is my family and I.
I had so wished that you would have not shunned me, and my husband for leaving the JW religion. I know you said that you had the truth, and that we have left it. As one a follower of the JW faith, you felt like you would have to endure through some very bad times before Armageddon happens. Well, you have one thing correct, there will be some very bad times before our Lord Jesus Christ will end it all.
I have with this letter, a packet on what you will get to look forward in the next few years. I would suggest to you that you read through that packet. I heard how now after the rapture is over there will be no holy spirit helping out. But I do hope that you take stock of what you belive in now. I guess what I am trying to say is.......well, just read the packet of information that is with this letter.With all my love,
Ruth
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Online Christmas Card.....
by closer2fine inin the spirit of e-man's post earlier - i had planned on sending out ecards this year to all of you.
after the rants regarding the junk mail emails - i decided to send them only to those who want one :o).
please either post below, or send me an email letting me know if it is ok to send a card to you.. [email protected].
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Tammie
I love e-cards. Include me too.
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Send in a letter to the editor
by Tammie ini don't know if this has already been sugessted over here.
if it has, then i appolige.
but the news article involving the death of the little girl by her jw parents.
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Tammie
I don't know if this has already been sugessted over here. If it has, then I appolige. But the news article involving the death of the little girl by her JW parents. Over at another webb site, we have been sending in e-mails to the news paper, informing them how abuse like that is common in several JW homes, at the KH, and assemblies. Here is the link to send in your letters. If enough of us do this. Hopefully it will force something to happen.
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Who Wants A Christmas Card?
by Englishman ini want to send lots of christmas greetings cards this year.
i especially want to send a card to dozens of posters from this site.
i suppose the obvious answer is that folks email me with an address.
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Tammie
Sign me up also. I want Christmas cards, and I would love to send them out.
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JW couple beats daughter to death
by saltiest ini just read this article in the chicago sun times.
when i started reading the parents were religious and then saw home-schooling, i had a gut feeling they were jw's.
i read on and found out i was right.
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Tammie
I don't know if any one has already said this. But to the JW parents who beat and killed their children. Perfect Justice will be done when they go to prison. Because they will get the crap beat out of them when the other prisoners hear of them killing and beating up their children.
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My wedding
by Tammie ini was married a little over 8 years in a kh.
i also had recorded almost every thing the wedding talk, and most of the reception.
any way the elder that gave the wedding talk was very long winded.
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You got me to thinking about my sister's wedding. Kind of an odd situation. But let me try to explain it to the best of my ability. My sister is now married to my husband's brother. This still burns me to this day when I think about it. She asked me to be her maid of honor. Our sister and sister in law to be the other females in the wedding. I forgot the term, they are called. First of all she gets married to this guy, because she feels sorry for him. He never had any luck with the sisters at the KH. The reason for that, he is a controle freak. They always break it off when he tells them who they can and can not see. And what they wear. The night before the wedding they have a rehearsal. Later I learned that they had a rehearsal dinner, and I was not invited. Every one else was. Then the next day, I go to pick up my sister to go to the KH for the wedding. She is standing out side, the location where the reception is going to be at. She is there all alone. I asked where is the people, who are to help put this place together. She said, "I forgot." So I make some phone calls, and get that taken care of. I make a call and ask the groom, if he would come over and help out a little. He said he would be over as soon as possible. After a while we leave to go to the hall, and the groom (this was an couple of hours after I called him) demanded to know where we had been at. By this time I was getting pissed, big time. So I told him off. The wedding, and the reception went on with out any more problems. Lets just say that was the LAST wedding I have ever been to. That was 6 years ago.
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My wedding
by Tammie ini was married a little over 8 years in a kh.
i also had recorded almost every thing the wedding talk, and most of the reception.
any way the elder that gave the wedding talk was very long winded.
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Tammie
I was married a little over 8 years in a KH. I also had recorded almost every thing the wedding talk, and most of the reception. Any way the elder that gave the wedding talk was very long winded. He is in all his talks. At the time, standing there, I was thinking, "Man I will be glad when this is over". My feet was getting very sore. Then about 1 1/2 years later I got my revenge on the elder for giving such a long drawn talk. I would have done it sooner, but I moved away. So happen the congeration that I was at, got to build a new KH. And this elder happened to be on a building crew. So as a friend and a good christian, I let him and his family stay at my home during the buildig project. I asked him if he would like to watch my wedding video. Of course he said yes, because he was basicly the one doing all the talking during my wedding. (If you are wondering how long it lasted, the talk lasted 45 minutes.) After he was finnished watching it, he looked at his wife, and then me. He said, "I did not know I could be so long winded." And he asked his wife if he did that on all his talks, and she said yes dear, you do. He said that he would try to work on it, but that I don't know. Because I have not heard of any of his talks since then.