Posts by Tatiana

Lauralisa.....omg, you said exactly what I've been thinking. I, too, read all the posts on "get a life". My eyes were burning when I finished. I actually left another board to come here. And lurked a lot at first. It is like moving to a new place. You don't always agree with all of your neighbors. But you live beside them just the same. I think I'll stay......

April

"Love never dies." Voivodul Vlad Draculea (from Bram Stoker's Dracula-1992)

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I think I did it!

by freeman in

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friends

i believe i have set the wheels in motion for what i believe will lead to my disfellowshiping.

i have been inactive since 1987 and still getting along with the witnesses (invited to gatherings etc.

) but something came up that finally push my buttons just enough to make me explode.

Tatiana

SixofNine-
I HAVE made a conscious decision never to be like my mother. I will never abandon any of my children. And God knows they have made mistakes. I will always be there to show them love and support and to help in any way I can. No matter what religion they choose. Or what mistakes they make along the way. I think this shows ten times more love than shunning them. I know it feels right in my heart.

Thank you for understanding.

April

"Love never dies." Voivodul Vlad Draculea (from Bram Stoker's Dracula-1992)

51

I think I did it!

by freeman in

jw
friends

i believe i have set the wheels in motion for what i believe will lead to my disfellowshiping.

i have been inactive since 1987 and still getting along with the witnesses (invited to gatherings etc.

) but something came up that finally push my buttons just enough to make me explode.

Tatiana

Lisa, I'm sorry about your mother. I know how hard it is to go through a pregnancy without your mom. I had my last child nine years ago. I was very sick and the doctor recommended a tubaligation. (I could not take birth control pills and had heard horror stories about implants.) It is major surgery. My mother never even came to see me. She was 20 minutes away.
What gets me is I still get email from my anointed uncle in Atlanta asking how I am and how the boys are. And I have emailed him asking about my mom. She has a computer and has never emailed me once to ask how I am. Why the double standard? Who knows, maybe it's a "conscience matter" now!

April

"Love never dies." Voivodul Vlad Draculea (from Bram Stoker's Dracula-1992)

51

I think I did it!

by freeman in

jw
friends

i believe i have set the wheels in motion for what i believe will lead to my disfellowshiping.

i have been inactive since 1987 and still getting along with the witnesses (invited to gatherings etc.

) but something came up that finally push my buttons just enough to make me explode.

Tatiana

Wiz, I DO know what all these things are like. Only they occurred "daily" in my home.
Acute clinical depression? Yeah, I think I know what that is. Already been diagnosed. My sister took the easy way out and got rid of the pain.
I was also at the top of my class. A 4.00 grade average in college. So what? That certainly was not the BIGGEST crush to my ego. The biggest thing was not having a mother who loved me enough to care. My step-father was a hanger-on jw. He just did what she said. When she said beat the hell out of the girls, he gladly obliged. Verbal abuse?? I remember standing there watching my sister get beat and remember my mom telling her she wished she'd died at birth; she was demonized;and that she must have been sent as a test from Jehovah.

When my sister started killing little animals and setting fires, I thought they would get her some psychiatric help at last. No, that would have taken up too much time from field service. They sent her to reform school, where she got worse and worse. Soon came alcohol, drugs, different men, anything to kill the pain. Finally she killed herself. And you think I can keep a photo of my mom hugging some strange child??????

I do have a photo on my mantle of her, me, and my sister when we were about 7 and 9 years old. My children know who she is.

I'm just so tired of witnesses using the "excuse" of imperfection, and shunning, and "we all make mistakes" to get away with whatever they want to do and not have even a twinge conscience about it.

I so have sympathy for you, wiz, even though you don't want it. Because I know exactly how you feel. But from reading the first line of your post, I think you have far worse anger than I do. Don't you feel better now?

April

"Love never dies." Voivodul Vlad Draculea (from Bram Stoker's Dracula-1992)

51

I think I did it!

by freeman in

jw
friends

i believe i have set the wheels in motion for what i believe will lead to my disfellowshiping.

i have been inactive since 1987 and still getting along with the witnesses (invited to gatherings etc.

) but something came up that finally push my buttons just enough to make me explode.

Tatiana

Wiz, I have been reading your posts for a while and think you jump to conclusions very often without having all the facts. You just assume the worst without knowing the entire story.
My children NEVER saw the photo of my mother and the little boy, because it would have hurt them. And I have never said anything derogatory about her in front of my children. Even when she only lived A MILE AWAY and never came to see them!!!!!!!!!
I lived in a place I hated for years so I could be close to her and maybe, just maybe, be able to change her mind about shunning my children. That was wasted time on my part.

You don't know the history of my mother, who was and is a very violent, abusive parent. Both physically and mentally. She is the reason my only sister killed herself at 38. AM I angry? You damn right! Do I show it in front of my kids? No. I am the exact opposite of my mother. I do NOT rant and rave and curse in front of my children like she did.

My anger comes from the hypocrisy of a woman who can act so loving in front of and with "worldly" people, and take pictures with children she doesn't even know, and not even care about her own flesh and blood. If this is what's supposed to make me "feel ashamed" and return to the flock, thanks but no thanks.

April

"Love never dies." Voivodul Vlad Draculea (from Bram Stoker's Dracula-1992)

The Eleventh Commandment

by Tatiana in

during a recent staff meeting in heaven, god, .

moses, and st. peter concluded hat the behavior of .

former president clinton and representative condit had .

Tatiana

During a recent staff meeting in Heaven, God,
Moses, and St. Peter concluded hat the behavior of
Former President Clinton and Representative Condit had
brought about the need for an eleventh commandment.
They worked long and hard in a brain storming
session to try to settle on the wording of the new
commandment, because they had realized that it should
have the same style, majesty and dignity as the original
ten.
After many revisions, they finally agreed that the
eleventh commandment should be:
"Thou shalt not comfort thy rod with thy staff."

April

"Love never dies." Voivodul Vlad Draculea (from Bram Stoker's Dracula-1992)

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You make me laugh and you break my heart.

by seven006 in

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friends

shelby, .

i will say the same thing to you as i said to shelby.

i read your posts when they are a flower and i think you are quite a woman and you posses so much love and understanding.

Tatiana

Well, I came here from another board and now I'm really depressed.

April

"Love never dies." Voivodul Vlad Draculea (from Bram Stoker's Dracula-1992)

51

I think I did it!

by freeman in

jw
friends

i believe i have set the wheels in motion for what i believe will lead to my disfellowshiping.

i have been inactive since 1987 and still getting along with the witnesses (invited to gatherings etc.

) but something came up that finally push my buttons just enough to make me explode.

Tatiana

Wiz, it certainly DOES mean they will have nothing to do with the grandkids. This was my mom's explanation...."I don't want to get too close to them because it would be too hard when Armaggedon comes. Knowing they will die." What kind of warped love is that?
I haven't seen my mother in 7 years except for my sister's funeral. I have a 9 year old son who doesn't remember her at all and asks IF he has a grandmother. He was only 2 when she last saw him.
Yet she has the nerve to send me a photo of her doing her missionary work in Ecuador. Standing with a little boy, hugging him. It was like she was slapping me in the face with it. "This could be Dominic if only you'd stayed in the 'truth'."

I tore it into a hundred pieces.

April

"Love never dies." Voivodul Vlad Draculea (from Bram Stoker's Dracula-1992)

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Where are we from.....

by BobsGirl in

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friends

i know that this has been done before, but i am new to the board and i would like to get an idea of where everyone is located.

as an aside .... plesantries or animosities, moderators or no, i am grateful to have this board.

bobsgirl

Tatiana

Chicago...formerly Georgetown, South Carolina

April

"Love never dies." Voivodul Vlad Draculea (from Bram Stoker's Dracula-1992)