Posts by Duran

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PRESIDENTIAL predictions...let the prognosticators have their say!

by Terry in

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my only prowess in making predictions stems from my 77-years of life in the united statesgrowing up under president truman, eisenhower, kennedy, nixon, .....etc.

etc.i was a widdle kid sitting in front of a tiny black and white tv set when the very first broadcastsof political conventions, deal-making, debates (nixon vs kennedy), assassinations (jfk, rfk, martin luther king, etc.

) i grew up with duck and cover under my elementary schooldesk, the cold war, the iron curtain, the korean war, the vietnam war and i went to federal prisonas a jw conscientious objector while hippies, flower children, political activists protested and universitystudents were fired up on by troops.i grew up reading newspapers (2 of them).

Duran

predictions

I just got a bad bad feeling about next week. Its going to ripple across the globe.

This coming year will be PURE HELL either way.

economic catastrophe and shitstorm

The only way out is War.

WW3 will be inevitable

martial law

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Searching

by Striker in

jude 1:9 (kjv) yet michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, the lord rebuke thee.. matthew 4:10 (kjv) then saith jesus unto him, get thee hence, satan: for it is written, thou shalt worship the lord thy god, and him only shalt thou serve.

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.....my understanding is that you all believe jesus is michael the archangel....... the two verses above describe two different personalities..... the archangel in jude rebuked satan in the name of the father, because he knew it was not his place to rebuke him, he knew that he didn't have the authority to do so, that the only person who possesses this authority is god himself.... while jesus, in matthew 4:10, does not need to invoke the name of the father to rebuke satan, because the father and jesus are one, not michael and jesus..... .... because michael the archangel is not jesus christ our savior.....

Duran

So, Jehovah comes down with an 'archangel's voice' and with 'God's trumpet'?

Is the following Jehovah too?

[ 7 But you who suffer tribulation will be given relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels]

[ 26 And then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.]

[13 “I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him up close before that One.]

If Jehovah is the 'son of man', who is the 'Ancient of Days/that One'?

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Searching

by Striker in

jude 1:9 (kjv) yet michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, the lord rebuke thee.. matthew 4:10 (kjv) then saith jesus unto him, get thee hence, satan: for it is written, thou shalt worship the lord thy god, and him only shalt thou serve.

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.....my understanding is that you all believe jesus is michael the archangel....... the two verses above describe two different personalities..... the archangel in jude rebuked satan in the name of the father, because he knew it was not his place to rebuke him, he knew that he didn't have the authority to do so, that the only person who possesses this authority is god himself.... while jesus, in matthew 4:10, does not need to invoke the name of the father to rebuke satan, because the father and jesus are one, not michael and jesus..... .... because michael the archangel is not jesus christ our savior.....

Duran

When looking at Hebrews, God is speaking to A Son- Jesus. Not "sons of God". This is specific to Jesus vs an angel. Heb 1:2-8 - these verses clearly define The One. Jesus.

Yes, it is true that it is talking about Jesus, but that does not change that ALL angels are 'sons' of God, including Jesus and Satan, them both being angels as well.

Again, you said:

To which one of the angels did he ( God ) call son? ( Hebrews 1:5) None

The answer to which one of the angels did he specifically call out as his 'son' is Jesus his 'firstborn' (first created/only be-gotten).

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Also, you fail to acknowledge that Jesus comes with an archangel voice, commanding his angels to gather his chosen ones together.

[ 16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. 17 Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord.]

[ 30 ... they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.]

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Searching

by Striker in

jude 1:9 (kjv) yet michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, the lord rebuke thee.. matthew 4:10 (kjv) then saith jesus unto him, get thee hence, satan: for it is written, thou shalt worship the lord thy god, and him only shalt thou serve.

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.....my understanding is that you all believe jesus is michael the archangel....... the two verses above describe two different personalities..... the archangel in jude rebuked satan in the name of the father, because he knew it was not his place to rebuke him, he knew that he didn't have the authority to do so, that the only person who possesses this authority is god himself.... while jesus, in matthew 4:10, does not need to invoke the name of the father to rebuke satan, because the father and jesus are one, not michael and jesus..... .... because michael the archangel is not jesus christ our savior.....

Duran

Pronunciation - Striker x Strike her

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WATCHTOWER JAN 2025: WHY IS THE WATCHTOWER OBSESSED WITH THE RANSOM?

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/ocufvpm3t04?si=75zmussxknhlsrs7.

the first watchtower for 2025 is out, and immediately, articles 4 and 5 drew my attention.

these will be studied near the memorial season, a time the witnesses prepare for their yearly commemoration of jesus’ death, i will be returning on this articles near at the time.

Duran

God offers a substitute for the death penalty that we are under

Who put us under that death penalty?

What did you personally do to deserve that death penalty?

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Searching

by Striker in

jude 1:9 (kjv) yet michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, the lord rebuke thee.. matthew 4:10 (kjv) then saith jesus unto him, get thee hence, satan: for it is written, thou shalt worship the lord thy god, and him only shalt thou serve.

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.....my understanding is that you all believe jesus is michael the archangel....... the two verses above describe two different personalities..... the archangel in jude rebuked satan in the name of the father, because he knew it was not his place to rebuke him, he knew that he didn't have the authority to do so, that the only person who possesses this authority is god himself.... while jesus, in matthew 4:10, does not need to invoke the name of the father to rebuke satan, because the father and jesus are one, not michael and jesus..... .... because michael the archangel is not jesus christ our savior.....

Duran

Michael is an ARCH ANGEL

[ 16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. 17 Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord.]

[ 30 ... they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.]

To which one of the angels did he ( God ) call son? ( Hebrews 1:5) None- Only Jesus was called son

All angels are 'sons' of God.

[2 the sons of the true God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose.]

[6 Now the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them.]

[ 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause?]

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Biden calls Trump supporters garbage

by moomanchu in

a comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???

potus pappy joe to the rescue!!

he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .

Duran

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters." - Joe Biden

Does Trump have any 'Puerto Rican' supporters, if so, Joe just called them 'garbage'.

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Bethelites dressing up for Halloween

by neat blue dog in

think about it: they had to go out and buy halloween paraphernalia, then apply makeup & costumes to dress the 'brothers & sisters' up as vampires, witches, mummies etc.

and you know they were probably joking around the whole time.

what a bunch of hypocrites, the last gen gb would be turning in their graves to see such a photoshoot at the 'house of god' 😆.

Duran

Yep, my wife's family are big time JWs and all through her years growing up they could go to Disney's MAGIC KINGDOM and watch Disney movies but could not watch the Smurfs.

Tinkerbell

Smurfette

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Bethelites dressing up for Halloween

by neat blue dog in

think about it: they had to go out and buy halloween paraphernalia, then apply makeup & costumes to dress the 'brothers & sisters' up as vampires, witches, mummies etc.

and you know they were probably joking around the whole time.

what a bunch of hypocrites, the last gen gb would be turning in their graves to see such a photoshoot at the 'house of god' 😆.

Duran

What a bunch of hypocrites,

VAMPIRES, WEREWOLVES, WITCHES, ZOMBIES: These creatures have long been associated with the evil spirit world.

Celebrations like Halloween are in conflict with Bible teachings. The Bible warns: “There must never be anyone among you who . . . practices divination, who is soothsayer, augur or sorcerer, who uses charms, consults ghosts or spirits, or calls up the dead.”—Deuteronomy 18:10, 11, The Jerusalem Bible; see also Leviticus 19:31; Galatians 5:19-21.

sor·cer·er - a person who claims or is believed to have magic powers;

Can JWs go to Disney's MAGIC KINGDOM? Can they wear theses costumes?

Tinkerbell, a fairy - a small imaginary being of human form that has magical powers, especially a female one

Ariel, a mermaid - a fictitious or mythical half-human sea creature with the head and trunk of a woman and the tail of a fish

Genie (from Aladdin) - a spirit of Arabian folklore, frequently depicted as being imprisoned within a bottle or oil lamp and as being capable of granting wishes when summoned.

Fairy Godmother (from Cinderella) - has magical powers

Flora, Fauna, Merryweather, and Maleficent (4 fairies sleeping beauty) - have magical powers

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If the UN fails, what do JWs have prepared?

by Anony Mous in

i was listening to a podcast about the current geopolitical situation, apparently the un has gone so far off the reservation being controlled by and trying to align themselves with anti-west values, a number of countries is attempting to kick israel out of the un because it is defending itself against iran.. off course, many african nations, some middle eastern, china and russia and a few european nations are all in some amalgamated economic league.

if the vote happens while biden is still president, it’s unlikely, given the election, the party is willing to throw their anti-semitic base under the bus and wouldn’t veto it, hence why these people are considering doing this now and china/russia would go along just to create some mayhem.

the un weeks ago voted to hand over a significant part of jerusalem to an unspecified state of palestine, this likewise went unopposed by the biden-harris administration.. if this happens, given the outcome of the next election, the us will almost certainly have to abandon and disband the un.

Duran

where does the Bible call out the UN and in why aspect has it been successful? Cold War? Vietnam, Korea, China? Yugoslavia? Seriously, where has the UN helped anything?

The Bible does not call out the UN 'per say'.

The Scriptures give the prophecies and then it is up to the Bible believing folk (as foolish as they may be) to look at what seems to fit based in the world that is happening/and entities that exist.

The UN fits in this regard.

Biblically speaking the UN is successful in that it was created in 1945 and has been growing with more structures put in place (The WHO, etc.) over the years waiting to be empowered.

The UN was never Biblically meant to solve/help what you mentioned. In fact, they have done the opposite and created wars, as they were supposed to.

They are under the guise of supposed to have worked for peace through the years. That was only to keep them existing through these years. But their true purpose is to be an OWG. From the Bibles view, the 8th king. It will take WW3 to implement that. (Order through chaos.) This is God's purpose, for the 8th king to serve as the 'hour of judgment' from him.