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  The King of the North as you Never Heard ity Explained Before

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/w32nome-k20?si=a8bhxh5tjrkomgzq.

  rather than seeing the king of the north as the final opponent of god’s people, i propose that daniel 11 points to a completely different figure.

  while the watchtower society focuses on the struggle between these two kings, they overlook a third entity mentioned in verse 40, but let’s ready this verse first from the new world translation.

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  [ 19 Then he said: “Here I am causing you to know what will happen in the final part of the denunciation, because it is for the appointed time of the end.]

  [ 31 And arms will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant feature.“And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.32 “And those who act wickedly against the covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But the people who know their God will prevail and act effectively. 33 And those having insight among the people will impart understanding to the many. And they will be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for some days. 36 “The king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt himself and magnify himself above every god; and against the God of gods he will speak astonishing things. And he will prove successful until the denunciation comes to a finish; because what is determined must take place.]

  [23 “And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion, a fierce-looking king who understands ambiguous sayings will stand up. 24 His power will become great, but not through his own power. He will bring ruin in an extraordinary way, and he will be successful and act effectively. He will bring mighty ones to ruin, also the people made up of the holy ones. 25 And by his cunning he will use deception to succeed; and in his heart he will exalt himself; and during a time of security he will bring many to ruin. He will even stand up against the Prince of princes, but he will be broken without human hand.]

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  The 'appointed time of the end' is the 42 months that the KOTN/DT/small horn/fierce king/MOL/8th king is given power and will prove successful until he is broken without human hand/throw into the fiery lake when Jesus comes after those 42 months. Those 42 months are what is known as the judgment on the house of God and is the time of GT upon them. (1 Peter 4:17;Luke 21:24;Rev 11:2,3;13:5,7,10 Rev 19:19-21;2 Thessalonians 1:7-10)
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  The King of the North as you Never Heard ity Explained Before

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/w32nome-k20?si=a8bhxh5tjrkomgzq.

  rather than seeing the king of the north as the final opponent of god’s people, i propose that daniel 11 points to a completely different figure.

  while the watchtower society focuses on the struggle between these two kings, they overlook a third entity mentioned in verse 40, but let’s ready this verse first from the new world translation.

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  How about this: The King of the North has been Trump,

  🤦‍♂️ Don’t encourage them. They might believe it.

  LOL!

  The KOTN is called the Disgusting Thing.

  Donald Trump

  [ 31 And arms will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant feature. “And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.32 “And those who act wickedly against the covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But the people who know their God will prevail and act effectively...36 “The king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt himself and magnify himself above every god; and against the God of gods he will speak astonishing things. And he will prove successful until the denunciation comes to a finish; because what is determined must take place. 37 He will show no regard for the God of his fathers; nor will he show regard for the desire of women or for any other god, but he will magnify himself over everyone.]
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  Yeah, so according to you it started with his arrest. I gave you that, but what you fail to answer is how does that compare with us humans?

  [ 17 Bearing the torture stake for himself, he went out to the so-called Skull Place, which is called Golʹgo·tha in Hebrew. 18 There they nailed him to the stake alongside two other men, one on each side, with Jesus in the middle.... 30 When he had received the sour wine, Jesus said: “It has been accomplished!” and bowing his head, he gave up his spirit.31 Since it was the day of Preparation, so that the bodies would not remain on the torture stakes on the Sabbath, the Jews asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken away. 32 So the soldiers came and broke the legs of the first man and those of the other man who was on a stake alongside him. 33 But on coming to Jesus, they saw that he was already dead, so they did not break his legs.]
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  But, one thing is for sure; It's not like God is asking us to do something he wasn't willing to do.

  I suppose you saying God was willing to suffer is because your God is Jesus. So that said, when did Jesus (your God) suffer? Was it on the cross for 3 hours, from 12:00pm to 3:00pm? Was it from the time he was arrested around 6:00am until 3:00pm..so 9 hours?

  How does that compare with what us humans go through day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year?
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  serena williams

  by FreeFallin in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  not really a scandal, but serena williams doing the crip walk on national tv wtf .

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  I guess I am older and out of the loop then I knew...but what is a 'C Walk' and what is wrong with doing it from a JW stance...remember when those at Bethel did this...

  Happy @ Bethel - Betel Testimoni di Geova - Jehovah's Witnesses - JW - jw - Full Video - FullHD

  JWs were HAPPY to join with the rest of the 'Worldly' people and UN to promote such...

  Join Pharrell Williams and the UN for a Happy Planet | unfoundation.org

  Pharrell - Happy - Worldwide Compilation #HappyDay
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  The King of the North as you Never Heard ity Explained Before

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/w32nome-k20?si=a8bhxh5tjrkomgzq.

  rather than seeing the king of the north as the final opponent of god’s people, i propose that daniel 11 points to a completely different figure.

  while the watchtower society focuses on the struggle between these two kings, they overlook a third entity mentioned in verse 40, but let’s ready this verse first from the new world translation.

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  First off there is no known event from the Bible that has happen in our lifetime. Anything that is claimed to have happen Biblical only shows the Bible to be a history book.

  If the Bible proves to be true, meaning a divinely written book, then it does not matter what/when something in the past happened if it is before our present lifetime. It only matters pertaining to the Bible what happens presently/future, which at this point the Bible has not proving to be reliable in predicting events.

  That said, and if by chance the Bible is true, and events will at some point happen, there is no reason to care about understanding Daniel (or other books). It is meaningless because they either pertain to the past which has already happen and if there is anything future about them, then Revelation covers them all.

  It's pointless to talk about the 8th king (of Rev) and also about the KOTN (of Daniel), etc...

  At this point there is no 8th king that has been given 42 months of power by the existing nations. Until that happens there is nothing Biblically ever going to happen in one's lifetime...NO GT, NO turning on BTG, NO Jesus coming, No Armageddon...
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  Beroean Pickets - Is there a problem?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having watched the latest offering from beroean pickets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpuelgtf4ka - i contributed the following factual information along with several consolidating scriptures:.

  "naos - metaphorically the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in christ,

  of a company of christians, a christian church, as dwelt in by the spirit of god.

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  The GC that come out of the GT are those that don't take the MOTB.

  The MOTB is not given out until the 8th king comes to power, which has not happened yet, therefore there is no GC yet. When the 8th king comes to power (LOL...don't hold your breath.), that will be the time of GT for all those refusing the MOTB.
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  So much for going after religion anytime soon

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/k4skyvqofuq?feature=shared.

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  Or its time for the GB to redefine (new-light) who/what BTG is...
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  What will happen to the Watchtower Religion now that Trump has Withdrawn from certain aspects of the United Nations.

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so trump has signed an executive order to withdraw from the united nations human rights council, a refugee organization, some others parts as well and calls for a review of american involvement in funding of the united nations.

  he said the united nations has not been living to its potential and they need to get their act together or just dissolve the organization completely.

  he said america will continue to be a part of the un but it's tiring that the united states is the country that funds most of the monies and that can't continue.

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  What is a Watchtower Religion?

  It is the Religion that JWs get baptized into in order to follow self-appointed men known as the GB headed at WT headquarters in NY.
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  New Footage of the Kingdom Hall that Recetly Was Converted to a Mosque

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://youtu.be/2rovtysbopm?si=gqazzq-lowyk3js0.

  with islam being one of the fastest-growing religions in the uk, there’s more need for mosques.

  so when an old church goes up for sale, it’s not exactly surprising that someone might want to turn it into a mosque.

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  but it only took less than 13? people to bring down the World Trade Center.

  LOL!

  Yeah, that's what happened...